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Rodja said:
I'm still kicking myself for not trying Phera when I had a chance.
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I still see phera clones from time to time in the buy/sell/trade section

I'd love to revisit it now that I have more experience, but as well as it worked I didn't need a frame of reference to say the shit's crazy. No sides whatsoever for me, a little lethargy towards the end but most likely because I wasn't using test. Gains were outta control though, at 45mg a day I would get a pump after a big meal. It was winter so I was wearing sweatshirts but people were still commenting how big I was getting. It's supposedly a "wet" compound but I didn't notice any real bloat. If anything it was more like a ton of water/glycogen within the muscle but I looked full as hell.
 
Digitalash said:
I still see phera clones from time to time in the buy/sell/trade section

I'd love to revisit it now that I have more experience, but as well as it worked I didn't need a frame of reference to say the shit's crazy. No sides whatsoever for me, a little lethargy towards the end but most likely because I wasn't using test. Gains were outta control though, at 45mg a day I would get a pump after a big meal. It was winter so I was wearing sweatshirts but people were still commenting how big I was getting. It's supposedly a "wet" compound but I didn't notice any real bloat. If anything it was more like a ton of water/glycogen within the muscle but I looked full as hell.
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Yah, people complain about the water/glycogen and how they are transient in terms of muscle gains... but hell, what is a muscle anyway? Water, glycogen and contractile proteins??

I'd be wary for myself (already have gyno from when I was younger) of stacking two aromatizing compounds together anyway.
 
I'm looking forward to my future Phera runs. I was fortunate enough to secure an ample supply which is waiting for me ;)
 
Did you land a spot for the logs? I applied, but haven't heard anything.
 
ryansm said:
Not Alpha One, but pretty much everything else...I require low doses which is weird considering my weight

I'll be running Methylsten soon as well
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That sounds real good Man. You planning to log it?
 
ryansm said:
Ya over on AM, I will keep you guys posted though on my thoughts. Will be getting bloods done as well, lipids, LFT's, probably even a hormone panel.
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It'll be pretty cool seeing the different effects this has on us.
 
Wouldn't dbol still be a better choice? And you could probably reduce the bloat with a higher dose ai, right?
 
Rodja said:
I'm still kicking myself for not trying Phera when I had a chance.
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Phera was my favorite for size gains. I had no problem with sides until I took 3 caps (45mgs) and then the back pumps got me really bad. I was almost finishing off a second gallon of water a day and the pumps still kicked my ass.

Digitalash said:
I still see phera clones from time to time in the buy/sell/trade section

I'd love to revisit it now that I have more experience, but as well as it worked I didn't need a frame of reference to say the shit's crazy. No sides whatsoever for me, a little lethargy towards the end but most likely because I wasn't using test. Gains were outta control though, at 45mg a day I would get a pump after a big meal. It was winter so I was wearing sweatshirts but people were still commenting how big I was getting. It's supposedly a "wet" compound but I didn't notice any real bloat. If anything it was more like a ton of water/glycogen within the muscle but I looked full as hell.
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Reading the post here reminded me how I liked the phera and SD cycles that I did. Within 2 weeks I had lots of people making comments on my size gains from the phera. Taking some test prop while running a short 4-6 week cycle of phera seems like it would make a great cycle. Luckily, I stocked up on phera and tren (Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione/19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione). The phera being awesome for size and the "tren" being great for strength. I only have a couple of SD containers, one a liquid (PP) and the other caps. With all of the stuff that I got from the EK DP email sale, I could create some interesting short cycles.
 
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CigarMan said:
...I only have a couple of SD containers, one a liquid (PP) and the other caps.
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By liquid SD from PP, you mean Superdrone? I hear that stuff kicks some major ass!

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Vibrant said:
Wouldn't dbol still be a better choice? And you could probably reduce the bloat with a higher dose ai, right?
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That doesn't take care of all the mineral retention, just whatever is caused by estrogen.

But yes that's not a bad choice... if anyone recalls, Kai Greene found out the hard way that you can't just high-dose an AI with your aromatizing AAS and attempt to look dry lol
 
CigarMan said:
Yes, Superdrone. I have not tried it yet but I have read a lot of good about it. The caps are from Fast Action Pharma, which I have tried before and liked them a lot.
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Superdrone was great... best SD I've taken. Of course, it was also the first ;) lol
 
CigarMan said:
Phera was my favorite for size gains. I had no problem with sides until I took 3 caps (45mgs) and then the back pumps got me really bad. I was almost finishing off a second gallon of water a day and the pumps still kicked my ass.


Reading the post here reminded me how I liked the phera and SD cycles that I did. Within 2 weeks I had lots of people making comments on my size gains from the phera. Taking some test prop while running a short 4-6 week cycle of phera seems like it would make a great cycle. Luckily, I stocked up on phera and tren (Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione/19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione). The phera being awesome for size and the "tren" being great for strength. I only have a couple of SD containers, one a liquid (PP) and the other caps. With all of the stuff that I got from the EK DP email sale, I could create some interesting short cycles.
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You staked SD and Phera? I couldn't do this, two strong methyls and my HDL/LDL would be obliterated, not too mention the liver issues. Oen of the Reasons AndroMass is so great being low in sides.
 
CigarMan said:
Phera was my favorite for size gains. I had no problem with sides until I took 3 caps (45mgs) and then the back pumps got me really bad. I was almost finishing off a second gallon of water a day and the pumps still kicked my ass.


Reading the post here reminded me how I liked the phera and SD cycles that I did. Within 2 weeks I had lots of people making comments on my size gains from the phera. Taking some test prop while running a short 4-6 week cycle of phera seems like it would make a great cycle. Luckily, I stocked up on phera and tren (Estra-4,9-diene-3,17-dione/19-Norandrosta-4,9-diene-3,17-dione). The phera being awesome for size and the "tren" being great for strength. I only have a couple of SD containers, one a liquid (PP) and the other caps. With all of the stuff that I got from the EK DP email sale, I could create some interesting short cycles.
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I'd like to try phera again for sure. I can't see anything being that much better for gaining size, never tried drol but it sounds like the sides are pretty bad in comparison.

A short cycle with phera/test sounds pretty good, maybe extend the cycle with two weeks of tren ace and hopefully solidify some of the gains from the phera. Not sure whether it's just a water/glycogen retention thing but the phera gains seemed hard to keep compared to something like test. /broscience
 
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