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sustaining the "pump" ?

Buy yourself some Vandyl Sulfate,it does the same thing and its much more cheaper
 
Who's this Arnold guy?? ;)
 
Originally posted by MeanCuts
Some old dude :)
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Is he that little kid from the old tv show "DIFFERENT STROKES?"
 
Was wondering. I just yesterday started taking NOx2 by Pinnacle. How long before I "feel" this pump? Also, does caffeine affect this at all? I know ephedra does. Does having too much sodium or carbination (from pop or what not) dilute the effects? I just want to be able to see what this product is fully capable of.
 
Originally posted by Blade Runner
Was wondering. I just yesterday started taking NOx2 by Pinnacle. How long before I "feel" this pump? Also, does caffeine affect this at all? I know ephedra does. Does having too much sodium or carbination (from pop or what not) dilute the effects? I just want to be able to see what this product is fully capable of.
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What are the exact ingredients in this product?
 
Arginine alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG)
Arginine-Ketoisocaproate (A-KIC)
3000mg
are the main active ingredients
from the hundreds or posts i read there are alot of different methods (rules) to take this.
 
Oh is that all it is. Its one of those "nitric oxide" increasing supplements. Not really proven to do much in the real world yet. Anyway, you might start feeling more pump very quickly. As for caffeine and soda affecting the pump...nah, it won't interfere.
 
thanks man. yeah i know its not a sure thing to take but figured i would give it a try once. so far not too much of a difference. might be because i expect too much.
 
Originally posted by Blade Runner
thanks man. yeah i know its not a sure thing to take but figured i would give it a try once. so far not too much of a difference. might be because i expect too much.
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Or because it doesn't do shiat.
 
Originally posted by Blade Runner
thanks man. yeah i know its not a sure thing to take but figured i would give it a try once. so far not too much of a difference. might be because i expect too much.
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Well, look, the "theory" behind alot of supplements "sounds good" or "looks good" on paper, but never pans out in the real world. Also, there are few supplements out there that give quick results. Some give slow but steady gains that add up over months or even years. Some work remarkably well for some, but do nothing for others.

Give this stuff a fair shot (which I consider a minimum of 2 months). Track your progress carefully, which means strength gains, weight gain, body fat change, and subjective findings ("feeling" better, better pumps, more aggression in the gym, etc). This is the only way to really determine the efficacy of any supplement.

Unfortunately, I am pretty sure you won't see much from this one, but who knows, you may be suprised...
 
man so far I have been on it for 1 week and have lost 3lbs. i have not changed my diet at all and have been only alittle more intense on my training. very strange supplement. i am curious as to the results other peple have seen.
 
Originally posted by Blade Runner
man so far I have been on it for 1 week and have lost 3lbs. i have not changed my diet at all and have been only alittle more intense on my training. very strange supplement. i am curious as to the results other peple have seen.
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Lost 3 lbs?? Strange :(
 
yeah i was surprised because my strength is the same. i look much more cut and my muscles are very defined now. only thing is losing that weight, size. if i continue that then i will either have to eat more or get off of it. i really cannot afford to lose anymore weight, size. took too long and i worked too hard to get where im at. is there no one else who have seen results like this so soon?
 
Originally posted by Blade Runner
yeah i was surprised because my strength is the same. i look much more cut and my muscles are very defined now. only thing is losing that weight, size. if i continue that then i will either have to eat more or get off of it. i really cannot afford to lose anymore weight, size. took too long and i worked too hard to get where im at. is there no one else who have seen results like this so soon?
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This is not supposed to be a "fat burning" supplement? You do notice that you look more cut?? Are you sure you haven't changed anything since starting it?
 
Oh yeah I look way more cut. I can see more striations in my chest and muscle separation in my biceps. I have not changed my diet at all, I eat the same every day. In fact I have cut down on my cardio as well, only do that 2x a week now for 20 mins. Have not taken ephedra either. I do feel more of a 'pump' when I workout but it does not last all day or anything like that. Still deciding if I like it but I know I dont like the unexpected loss of size and not being able to take ephedra (which I only use for energy, not for fat loss).
 
Originally posted by Blade Runner
Oh yeah I look way more cut. I can see more striations in my chest and muscle separation in my biceps. I have not changed my diet at all, I eat the same every day. In fact I have cut down on my cardio as well, only do that 2x a week now for 20 mins. Have not taken ephedra either. I do feel more of a 'pump' when I workout but it does not last all day or anything like that. Still deciding if I like it but I know I dont like the unexpected loss of size and not being able to take ephedra (which I only use for energy, not for fat loss).
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This is strange...if you keep taking it, please keep me posted on what happens.
 
i'm in suspense!!! ah!!! what happened?!?! you know what would make the world a better place? if you all chipped into my supplement fund so i can try everything i want to try without tapping into my bank account.
 
Last week was a good one (didnt lose any weight. not doing cardio at all helped). To recap the first two weeks on NoX2, I lost 3 lbs and .6% body fat. I still think thats too much weight to lose but the strength is surprisingly still there. Seems like my body has normalized a bit now and is steady. I am thinking of upping my calories a little but keeping everything else the same. Still not sure what to think about it yet. Two weeks left and then I will evaluate once more before getting off of it.
 
BJJ...I'm writing you out a check right now :rolleyes:
 
Fingers Crossed

Blade Runner i'm definitely awaiting your next post, I just got some NO2 but haven't started it yet (I will in about a week when i get to college with a 24 hour gym). Everyone is saying that its a load of crap, but you seem to be getting results that i would love to experience with this stuff. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your next post will be with a good review.
 
The pump may not have anything to do with growing bigger muscles, but it DOES matter!
The bigger, better pump you can get, the bigger you look. Therefore, competitive bodybuilder's need it. My arms are 16-17 inches cold, they swell to 19 when pumped. Same with the rest of my body. Of course everyone can say that, that when their body gets pumped you look bigger. But its especially true for me.
I have a big chest that gets huge when pumped . My back is so-so, actually one of my weaker bodyparts, but it blows up to one of my best bodyparts when pumped.
The reason people "train for a pump" is because its a way to increase intensity. The shorter the rest between sets, the better the pump, even though it may not directly affect growth, you know your training at a good pace.
In fact, many famous bodybuilders have trained with shorter resting periods, thus getting a better pump. Sergio, Arnold, Ferrigno and many others have all trained with short breaks, enhancing their pump.
Therefore, the pump is important. If only for an hour, the pump gives you that extra edge in competition, not to mention its a one of the best feelings you can have..."Too me a pump is better than having sex with a woman and cumming".
 
Originally posted by Pumping Iron
The pump may not have anything to do with growing bigger muscles, but it DOES matter!
The bigger, better pump you can get, the bigger you look. Therefore, competitive bodybuilder's need it. My arms are 16-17 inches cold, they swell to 19 when pumped. Same with the rest of my body. Of course everyone can say that, that when their body gets pumped you look bigger. But its especially true for me.
I have a big chest that gets huge when pumped . My back is so-so, actually one of my weaker bodyparts, but it blows up to one of my best bodyparts when pumped.
The reason people "train for a pump" is because its a way to increase intensity. The shorter the rest between sets, the better the pump, even though it may not directly affect growth, you know your training at a good pace.
In fact, many famous bodybuilders have trained with shorter resting periods, thus getting a better pump. Sergio, Arnold, Ferrigno and many others have all trained with short breaks, enhancing their pump.
Therefore, the pump is important. If only for an hour, the pump gives you that extra edge in competition, not to mention its a one of the best feelings you can have..."Too me a pump is better than having sex with a woman and cumming".
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No offense but this is all a load of crap. :)

A pump is just a side effect of training, it should NEVER be your goal in a work-out, and it should NEVER be the measure of a successful work-out, period.

Furthermore, getting a pump every work-out does not increase your ability to get pumped, not sure how you came to that conclusion.

As far as competition, sure you get a little pumped before you go on stage, but you do not want to get excessively pumped or you will have problems posing, such as shaking, inability to hold a pose, cramping, etc.
 
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