Sustanon Questions

[Truthstar]

Hey Guys,

About to startup a cycle and need some good advice. Did a cycle early 20s using cypoinate-had great results but typical side effects. Went from 125 to 155 in about a month- yes alot of water weight but kept most of my gains longterm.
33 now and hit a brick wall. Primary reasons for this time around: Increased energy, confidence boost, decrease in abdominal fat, bulk in certain areas(maybe 10# gain max-not weight oriented now, more toned/defined). I'm worried about aromatization so that is why I went with Sustanon; heard is was less prevelant than cypionate(which gave me a slight case of bitch tits). I prefer not to stack multi; the more you put in the more room for error. But, should I use a anti-estrogen?
5'9", 175 BF: Unknown but guesstimate is 17%

Yes, I know how to workout.
Yes, I know how to diet.

Gear:
Sustanon 250
Omnitropin

Cycle Thoughts:
Sust 250-350 per wk
Omni 2ui per day 5x wk/ 3mnths

Thanks.

 

[Truthstar]

btw...I hear EOD and ED in referenc to Sust. What do they stand for?

 

[supersetsam]

EOD=every other day ED=every day, if you got gyno before definitly think properly about your protection this time! better safe than sorry. arimidex is costly, it's cheaper if you buy it in liquid form (liquidex) just a thought.

SAM

 

[Whatsaroid?]

How long will you be running the cycle?
I myself have everything on hand letro, clomid, nolva, caber and so forth I suggest you invest in things that count as well as your aas.

Also can you post a picture of what you currently look like?
I want to see this 5'9 175 pound man about to juice (no disrespect in anyway) at 5'9 I was 180 in high school 12% bf.

Went from 125 to 155 in about a month

How long was this cycle? If I was to pin I'd do a 12 week cycle and enjoy the ride, if only going a month you could use a reg ph/ds and get the same gains. I.E Andro RX or a SD clone

 

[Aodha]

Alright, IMHO...
I just finished up a cycle of just sust at 500mg a week. But I took two shots a week at 250. It worked great. For some reason everyone on here is talking about ed or eod, but that's not the case, everyones different. But don't just do 250-350, that's not enough for sure. 500mg a week is still not that much. I went from 130 to 154. And I kept about 12 pounds after pct. I'm currently at 142 as of this morning. So I'm stoked, I'm a beleiver in sust. You could still realistically just do one shot a week and be fine. That's the way sust is set up anyways. I'm sure u know about the four different tests releasing at different time. Anyways, that's my two cents.

 

[Aodha]

Oh and for sure have some nolvadex or something ON HAND for sides. I didn't get any sides whatsoever, but that's just me. Better to be safe than sorry.

 

[Truthstar]

Best reply yet Aodha.

You are exactly right; Sust was formulated for weekly shots. Just because is has short working esters doesn't mean it has to be taken ED/EOD. Sheesh...

" want to see this 5'9 175 pound man about to juice (no disrespect in anyway) at 5'9 I was 180 in high school 12% bf."

I'll post before/after pics for your pleasure. I just dont want to see my pic on your locker room door!

 

[Shadowcam]

Alright, IMHO...
I just finished up a cycle of just sust at 500mg a week. But I took two shots a week at 250. It worked great. For some reason everyone on here is talking about ed or eod, but that's not the case, everyones different. But don't just do 250-350, that's not enough for sure. 500mg a week is still not that much. I went from 130 to 154. And I kept about 12 pounds after pct. I'm currently at 142 as of this morning. So I'm stoked, I'm a beleiver in sust. You could still realistically just do one shot a week and be fine. That's the way sust is set up anyways. I'm sure u know about the four different tests releasing at different time. Anyways, that's my two cents.

Dont give advice when you have no idea what your talking about!

There are many experienced bodybuilders on this board but you are not one of them thats why you are 142 lbs! You have no business using steroids or giving advice on them.

If you had any knowlege on AAS you would no that you need to learn how to gain muscle naturally through training and diet so you can sustain any gains you make from a cycle. You will just wither away back to your 130 lbs physique and achieve nothing.

If you knew how sust works you would also know that by shooting once or twice a week you are waisting two of the easters in the drug, therefore not getting the full effects.

Do yourself a favour and go to the diet and training sections and stay out of this one.

 

[Shadowcam]

Best reply yet Aodha.

You are exactly right; Sust was formulated for weekly shots. Just because is has short working esters doesn't mean it has to be taken ED/EOD. Sheesh...

" want to see this 5'9 175 pound man about to juice (no disrespect in anyway) at 5'9 I was 180 in high school 12% bf."

I'll post before/after pics for your pleasure. I just dont want to see my pic on your locker room door!

Wrong, it may have been formulated for infrequent injections but it was not intended for a bodybuilding purpose were the dosage is much higher.

Its very simple, if you do not inject frequently then the two shorter easters are not in your system alot of the time. So if your shooting once or twice a week your blood levels are at there peak when you inject then the two shorter easters diminish and your blood levels drop before your next injection.

When your blood levels are constantly going up and down it increases side effects. If you only want to inject twice a week the use Test E or C.

 

[VictorZ06]

Alright, IMHO...
I just finished up a cycle of just sust at 500mg a week. But I took two shots a week at 250. It worked great. For some reason everyone on here is talking about ed or eod, but that's not the case, everyones different......I'm a beleiver in sust. You could still realistically just do one shot a week and be fine. That's the way sust is set up anyways.

Shadow did a great job summing it up...if you don't know exactly what you are talking about, you shouldn't give advice. Keep your 2 cents. Especially when you weigh as much as some of us here can curl. Yes, people are different, but the compound remains the same, as Shadow pointed out.

500mg ew (250mg 2X) of Sust WILL WORK, but it's like buying a whole pizza, eating half the pie, and throwing the rest out. Why waste it? In the BB world, sust is sometimes used to frontload. You won't see many vets using sustanon.

And no, Sust was not "set up" to be taken once a week for BB purposes. If you have undergone a sex change of some sort, perhaps.

Long story short, sust simply sucks!

/V

 

[Aodha]

I'm talking from experience. Have shadow or vic ever done sustanon or have just read about it.
Sure I'm not very experienced with everything you vets are. But I know what's up with sust.
You definetly don't need to shoot eod. The other tests do they're job just fine, you don't need to depend on the first test constantly by injecting that frequently.

 

[Aodha]

500mg ew (250mg 2X) of Sust WILL WORK, but it's like buying a whole pizza, eating half the pie, and throwing the rest out. Why waste it? In the BB world, sust is sometimes used to frontload. You won't see many vets using sustanon.

And no, Sust was not "set up" to be taken once a week for BB purposes. If you have undergone a sex change of some sort, perhaps.

Long story short, sust simply sucks!

/V[/QUOTE]

Exactly, vets and well experienced lifters will use this differently. But for guys like me and him, it's different.
And you wanna know a secret, I can curl 140 too big boy! Can you curl your own body weight? Hell no!

 

[Aodha]

I don't know why my quote response turned out like that. Where's the shadow box...

 

[Aodha]

Best reply yet Aodha.

You are exactly right; Sust was formulated for weekly shots. Just because is has short working esters doesn't mean it has to be taken ED/EOD. Sheesh...

" want to see this 5'9 175 pound man about to juice (no disrespect in anyway) at 5'9 I was 180 in high school 12% bf."

I'll post before/after pics for your pleasure. I just dont want to see my pic on your locker room door!

Haha. Word. These guys do have a lot of knowledge but they throw in a lot of offensive crap for no reason. It's like they only want experienced vets on here. I'm here to learn and share what I've learned by experience.

 

[VictorZ06]

Well, I'm not talking out of my ass, I'm talking from experience as well. I've used sust before, on two occasions. So my statements come from one who has used sust as well as other forms of test in the past. I've compared and contrasted between the many.

You are correct...you don't NEED to shoot it every day or eod, you only need to when you want to do it right. Think of it as milk that is expiring. You buy it by the gallon yet only use a cup. You may decide to store it in the fridge, but it will go bad by the time you need another cup. So, you shouldn't have bought a gallon in the first place. See what I'm driving at?

I'm trying to find different ways of explaining this to you since the science we have all laid forth is too difficult to comprehend. I've posted studies here as well as testimonials from doctors and seasoned vets. Don't take my word or the logistics of science's word...why not take theirs?

/V

 

[VictorZ06]

Exactly, vets and well experienced lifters will use this differently. But for guys like me and him, it's different.
And you wanna know a secret, I can curl 140 too big boy! Can you curl your own body weight? Hell no!

Explain how it's different?

Do you think we are telling you this for your own good, or to cause you harm?

Do you think it's meaningless to have your test levels bouncing up and down throughout your cycle?

Do you think it's better to have an easy or a difficult PCT?

You are simply wasting the medication, your money, and your time. I told you it will work and you will see gains, just not as much as you would compared to other tests.

And no, I'm 245 and can not curl my weight. I can however, tie you around my waist and use you like a hula hoop.

/V

 

[Aodha]

Well, I'm not talking out of my ass, I'm talking from experience as well. I've used sust before, on two occasions. So my statements come from one who has used sust as well as other forms of test in the past. I've compared and contrasted between the many.

You are correct...you don't NEED to shoot it every day or eod, you only need to when you want to do it right. Think of it as milk that is expiring. You buy it by the gallon yet only use a cup. You may decide to store it in the fridge, but it will go bad by the time you need another cup. So, you shouldn't have bought a gallon in the first place. See what I'm driving at?

I'm trying to find different ways of explaining this to you since the science we have all laid forth is too difficult to comprehend. I've posted studies here as well as testimonials from doctors and seasoned vets. Don't take my word or the logistics of science's word...why not take theirs?

/V

haha.. nah i hear ya.. and i mean no disrepect to you guys. but i'm just saying for newbies like us.. i mean, i can feel my body when it's time for another injection, and it was usually 3-4 days after the last. so for me it was 2x a week. and i've had no sides whatsoever.

 

[VictorZ06]

nah i hear ya.. and i mean no disrepect to you guys. but i'm just saying for newbies like us.. i mean, i can feel my body when it's time for another injection, and it was usually 3-4 days after the last. so for me it was 2x a week.

My point exactly, you shouldn't be able to feel your test levels going up and down throughout your cycle. They should remain constant. This applies to both newbies and vets.

/V

 

[raza abbas]

Very well said victor {Bro}..
For all newbies listen what these guys telling u cuz they know what they r saying they got experience with AAS,HGH and DIET etc etc..

There is no need to arguments with them cuz here ur talking about ur OWN health.

 

[Uba]

I been just learking on this forum and insert my input where i have some knowledge.

But i gotta say Vic is one of the most knowledgable here, very well said vic

 

[Shadowcam]

I'm talking from experience. Have shadow or vic ever done sustanon or have just read about it.
Sure I'm not very experienced with everything you vets are. But I know what's up with sust.
You definetly don't need to shoot eod. The other tests do they're job just fine, you don't need to depend on the first test constantly by injecting that frequently.

What experience?

You have done one cycle of sust and you weigh 140 lbs!

Of course I have tried Sust along time ago but never again.

 

[Shadowcam]

500mg ew (250mg 2X) of Sust WILL WORK, but it's like buying a whole pizza, eating half the pie, and throwing the rest out. Why waste it? In the BB world, sust is sometimes used to frontload. You won't see many vets using sustanon.

And no, Sust was not "set up" to be taken once a week for BB purposes. If you have undergone a sex change of some sort, perhaps.

Long story short, sust simply sucks!

/V

Exactly, vets and well experienced lifters will use this differently. But for guys like me and him, it's different.
And you wanna know a secret, I can curl 140 too big boy! Can you curl your own body weight? Hell no![/QUOTE]

The 140 lbs curls are not doing much for your physique so thats pointless. Why dont you half the weight, use good form and learn how to eat then you might grow some muscle son.

I would love to see skin and bones swinging a 140 pound barbell like a spastick with a firecracker up his arse! That would make great viewing.

 

[Gazhole]

This thread is everything that is wrong with the weightlifting culture right now. People who have no right to use steroids talking like big shots because they went from 120lbs to 140lbs.

Guess what, i did that with a squat rack and milk when i was 16. You people are idiots, don't know what you're doing, and should listen to the more experienced members of this message board before you kill yourselves.

 

[Aodha]

Ive been lifting close to 5 solid years now, I know my shit about diet and lifting. I'm a newbie when it comes to aas, yeah. I finally decided to take the extra step to put on a little more weight and I get blasted for it. I have all the right in the world to decide if I wanna use aas. I'm talking from experience when it comes to sustanon. So I'll put in my 2 cents all I want. I'd bet I'm stronger then all of u percentage wise speaking. And I have damn perfect form. None of you could ever dream doing what I do at my weight.
Stop turning all these forums to hate forums. People are here to learn and grow.

 

[VictorZ06]

Like I said, keep your 2 cents. 5 years of training and you weigh 140 lbs. and you think you know it all. GTF out of here. You really are one stubborn SOB. You do know that playing Nintendo is not considered lifting. Above everything we said here, you really have no business using AAS. Go spend some time at Sizzler's buffet.

Yes, sure sounds like you know your shit. If you knew how to train and diet correctly, there is no way in hell you would weigh 140 pounds.

Nobody is/was trying to blast you here, but when you give out incorrect advice and insist on ignoring the science behind all this...your ignorant contributions here mean shit. Instead of trying to see through the smoke and listen to some of the advice here, you want to be stubborn and insist that Sust is the king of the crop, simply because you tried it. People here are trying to help your gimpy ass!

And you think you are stronger than most of us here..."percentage wise". What lead you to that conclusion? What 140 pounder would say such a ridiculous statement?

Wow! Cool dude. Flex those cyber muscles of yours...just be weary and close the door behind you, a gust of wind might come by and blow your 140 lb. ass all over the room. You must have to drive with your windows up, right?

/V

 

[RoosterTX]

Ive been lifting close to 5 solid years now, I know my shit about diet and lifting. I'm a newbie when it comes to aas, yeah. I finally decided to take the extra step to put on a little more weight and I get blasted for it. I have all the right in the world to decide if I wanna use aas. I'm talking from experience when it comes to sustanon. So I'll put in my 2 cents all I want. I'd bet I'm stronger then all of u percentage wise speaking. And I have damn perfect form. None of you could ever dream doing what I do at my weight.
Stop turning all these forums to hate forums. People are here to learn and grow.

How tall are you. If he's 5 foot with 6% bf 140 isn't too shabby.

 

[VictorZ06]

Steroid Encyclopaedia Blog » Blog Archive » So You Want To Use Sustanon 250 huh???

 

[Shadowcam]

Ive been lifting close to 5 solid years now, I know my shit about diet and lifting. I'm a newbie when it comes to aas, yeah. I finally decided to take the extra step to put on a little more weight and I get blasted for it. I have all the right in the world to decide if I wanna use aas. I'm talking from experience when it comes to sustanon. So I'll put in my 2 cents all I want. I'd bet I'm stronger then all of u percentage wise speaking. And I have damn perfect form. None of you could ever dream doing what I do at my weight.
Stop turning all these forums to hate forums. People are here to learn and grow.

Yes it is my dream to be just like you!

Maybe if I stop eating and training, sometime in the distance future I may weigh the same as you! although I think I weighed more than you before I started training and Im only 5'2.

Oh well, one can only dream!

 

[animal550]

I have a question if anyone can help. I am 20 years old 6'2 225 pounds looking to get up to 255 pounds by then end of the year. But i am on dbol sus 250 and deca... started off with 2 weeks of dbol only 20mg/ day and gained great size put on 10 pounds in 2 weeks with amazing pumps. then took first injection of sus 250 and deca and got the test flu 2days after. body aches i am really flush no motivation tired and got nausea and havent ate hardly in 2 days and lost weight. wants to kno if any else lost weight from the test flu and how long does it last and will expirience it every shot???? apprecitate your info...