t3 + DNP

[XYZ]

Youre all still idiots for wanting to take this stuff. Just sayin'

Thanks for your opinion, I'll take it into consideration.

 

[Vibrant]

Lot of good info on dnp in this thread for guys that are interested in it.

 

[Thresh]

How many times have you used DNP? What dose and for what length of time? Thanks.

I've run DNP at 400mg a day for 15 days or so, just felt to warm. I didn't like sweating that much. I've run 300mg for about 20 days and had good results, so 300mg was my comfort zone where I could function normally and not over sweat. My job is physical so that was a factor.

 

[XYZ]

I've run DNP at 400mg a day for 15 days or so, just felt to warm. I didn't like sweating that much. I've run 300mg for about 20 days and had good results, so 300mg was my comfort zone where I could function normally and not over sweat. My job is physical so that was a factor.

Sorry Bro, I was asking TJTJ.

Looks like you've had some experience for sure.

 

[vindicated346]

Thresh, if you ever want to give me a try, just hit me up

 

[vindicated346]

oh and one more thing..about the "its poison" comment thrown around Yes, it's a metabolic poison in the sense that it interferes with energy production, making it less efficient. That "poisonous" effect is precisely why people take it. You should be aware that despite the negative connotations, the "poisonous" effect of uncoupling produces a host of beneficial effects, including a reduction in mitochondrial free radical formation, improved mitochondrial stability, neuroprotection, protection in several models of cell injury (e.g. ischemia/reperfusion, contusion), slowing of telomeric senescence (e.g. extension of lifespan with DNP has now been shown in three different species), etc. If you think that DNP is an outrageously dangerous "poison" that will only harm you, you're very misinformed.

 

[Thresh]

oh and one more thing..about the "its poison" comment thrown around Yes, it's a metabolic poison in the sense that it interferes with energy production, making it less efficient. That "poisonous" effect is precisely why people take it. You should be aware that despite the negative connotations, the "poisonous" effect of uncoupling produces a host of beneficial effects, including a reduction in mitochondrial free radical formation, improved mitochondrial stability, neuroprotection, protection in several models of cell injury (e.g. ischemia/reperfusion, contusion), slowing of telomeric senescence (e.g. extension of lifespan with DNP has now been shown in three different species), etc. If you think that DNP is an outrageously dangerous "poison" that will only harm you, you're very misinformed.

All so true!


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week

 

[the_anapolack]

ive ran it for months before.....i love how a few weeks after a cycle your STILL losing fat......initially from water shedding then from your natural thyroid levels going thru the roof............besides my source is really cool but he only sources out domestically

 

[bigbenj]

All this DNP talk has piqued my interest, but I keep seeing people talk about constant sweating, especially after eating. The insane amount of fluid intake, having to keep gym sessions short. sounds terrible....yet intriguing lol

 

[the_anapolack]

I can only imagine the amount of damage 13lbs lost in 14days has done to your internal organs. As tempting as it sounds that I can get ripped in 2 weeks sounds fucking awesome. Ill pass. I'd rather get that feeling I get when I set a goal on my own and get it done, which is indescribable

I have an old Iron Man magazine from Feb 2010 with Mike O'Hearn on the cover. There is an article in this addition Talking about The Most Dangerous Drugs and it talks about DNP.

Im going to summarize the article. Fuck looking up and down to write two pages.

"DNP is a poison that researchers use to destroy cells..."DNP was one of the original weight-loss drugs introduced in the early 1930's. An epidemic of cataracts in female uses and well as a fe deaths in which hapless victims were literally cooked from the inside out led to the removal of DNP by the nascent and FDA in 1938,"

"W/O getting into technical details DNP interferes with cellular energy production , forcing the body to rely on fat stores as an energy source. Some cases on record indicate DNP-related fat loss of up to a half pound a day. Thats' what makes it attractive to BBers."

"there is however a narrow range of safety and effectiveness. Use just a tad too much and the bodyfat loss will be the least of your concerns. You can die a quick and agonizing death from a small over dose. In addition ,idiosyncratic reaction can occur, so even the 'safe' dose of DNP can cause death. That happened in a few recent (as of the time this article was released 2010) where DNP user followed dosing advice the found on the internet and died"

"Lets assume that no rational person would take a clearly toxic substance just to loss bodyfat. Indeed, while most competitive BBers are highly motivated to compete successfully, few are deranged enough to place their lives on the line with DNP."

"Not only can is cause death from internal overheating, but emerging evidence shows that it may be related to cancer through cellular mutations caused my excessive free-radical production. So it can kill you quickly or slowly. Only the dose establishes the time line"

Then the article goes on to Diuretics and how "Muhammad Ali took a diuretic to make weight. The drug made him weak in the ring and his punching power as well as his legendary speed were greatly diminished, resulting in this loss to a less skilled opponent."

"Anyone whos regularly attended BBing contests has likely witnessed the results of diuretic abuse." He goes on to say.
1988 Pro BBer Albert Beckles collapses and convulses on stage
1991 At a British amateur BBer Andy Rody collapses and dies on stage.
1992 Pro BBer Mohammed "Momo" Benaziza dies after comperting in a grand prix contest in Europe. He succumbed to cardiovascular failure at age 33. Momo told (Jerry Brainum the author of this article) off the record that American BBers were "sissies" for their unfounded fear of drugs."

^All from Diuretics^

Pretty cool I still have this Iron Man Magazine and remembered the information in it.

Just be safe guys and you too ladies.

We dont need to see any new posts from Prince about some fag who died from DNP. It gives opponents of AAS more ammunition. And recently there have already been several fags losing their minds among others shit.

i remember this article......welcome to 1996 ....actually dnp is alot safer than anything else out there

 

[the_anapolack]

All this DNP talk has piqued my interest, but I keep seeing people talk about constant sweating, especially after eating. The insane amount of fluid intake, having to keep gym sessions short. sounds terrible....yet intriguing lol

i think worst case scenarios are represented....most people it aint bad at all.......youll be surprised.....i get it pretty cheap im not gonna stop till im crackhead thin

 

[bigbenj]

PM a nigga

 

[the_anapolack]

Please read the rules, you can't solicit in the open like this. Thank you.

 

[heavyiron]

DNP is literally poison.

 

[bigbenj]

ahh shit. here we go again!

 

[Thresh]

DNP is literally poison.

It's classified as a poison because it intervenes in the metabolic process, this is why you take it and why it works.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week

 

[vindicated346]

I chalk this up to being just like certain gear. There are those out there that swear by this compound or another, and others that rail against it because of the "side effects" those that choose to take it, should def be informed. Those that wish to not take it, or have some preconceived notion about it..so be it.

 

[pieguy]

The only problem is there are few if any documented cases of people dying from steroids. People dying from DNP overdosage is actually cited in numerous case studies. But hey, to each their own. Can't say DNP doesn't interest me at moderate dosages.

 

[XYZ]

The only problem is there are few if any documented cases of people dying from steroids. People dying from DNP overdosage is actually cited in numerous case studies. But hey, to each their own. Can't say DNP doesn't interest me at moderate dosages.

People do not die from overdoses of DNP it is because of dehydration and or mixing with rec. drugs.

 

[pieguy]

People do not die from overdoses of DNP it is because of dehydration and or mixing with rec. drugs.

Two deaths attributed to the use of 2,4-dinit... [J Anal Toxicol. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

Isn't the dehydration pretty much caused by the DNP? That's like saying radiation doesn't kill you, genetic mutations that lead to cancer kill you.

I don't want to get into a huge stupid argument over DNP cause it's already been beaten to death. Is the shit dangerous? Yes. Is it a very powerful dieting tool when used responsibly? Yes. Not much else to be said.

 

[vindicated346]

Reasonably, moderate doses have not led to death. I believe *could be wrong* but most cases of the deaths were of HIGH concentrations of the compound. I remember reading one of a girl who overdosed on purpose as a suicide attempt.

Also in the original studies conducted on DNP's usage the Dr conducting the study had their patients on DNP for over a year with no negative side effects.

 

[XYZ]

Two deaths attributed to the use of 2,4-dinit... [J Anal Toxicol. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI

Isn't the dehydration pretty much caused by the DNP? That's like saying radiation doesn't kill you, genetic mutations that lead to cancer kill you.

No, it's the sweating and loss of fluids not the actual DNP that causes the death. Add in alcohol (which is known to dehydrate) and you have a recipe for disaster.

That "study" is also over 6 years old and doesn't mention how much (mg) the person took, or if they found any other substances. It only mentions how much was found inside the body.

 

[GMO]

No, it's the sweating and loss of fluids not the actual DNP that causes the death. Add in alcohol (which is known to dehydrate) and you have a recipe for disaster.

That "study" is also over 6 years old and doesn't mention how much (mg) the person took, or if they found any other substances. It only mentions how much was found inside the body.

They obviously took a lot of the shit because the study said they had "rapid pulse and respiration". I am on it now and have neither...

 

[Vibrant]

They obviously took a lot of the shit because the study said they had "rapid pulse and respiration". I am on it now and have neither...

Damn GMO, what aren't you on?

 

[Thresh]

They used to give obese people 2,000mg a day. Some of those people had health complications, mostly from being over weight.

From what I remember those people lived at 2,000mg a day. For those people death was certain anyways from being over weight.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week

 

[the_anapolack]

leave the t-3 alone....contrary to popular belief t-3 levels stay the same throughout......and a week or so off cycle they go through the roof for a few weeks.....hence why you still lose weight after coming off long dnp cycles

 

[the_anapolack]

No soliciting illegal activity

 

[Dyers Eve]

They used to give obese people 2,000mg a day. Some of those people had health complications, mostly from being over weight.

From what I remember those people lived at 2,000mg a day. For those people death was certain anyways from being over weight.


5"10
193lbs
BF = around 13% (guess)
600mg Tren E, 325mg Test Cyp week

I seriously doubt anyone was ever given 2g of DNP for weight loss purposes. That is an overdose amount.
Im a very experienced DNP user and I only use 500mg a day and that makes me sweat a lot even in an air conditioned office, and lethargy gets pretty bad after about a week on that dose for me.

 

[the_anapolack]

i did almost 2g....6yrs ago.....very uncomfortable

 

[GMO]

DNP is literally poison.

So is alcohol...