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Test E/Methadrol Cycle Log
- Thread starter Tysdon
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It's probably normal. Virgin muscle is always going to be sore the first few pins. If you're pinning in the glutes you may want to use a 1 1/2 in needle. I assume since you said its a 25 g that it's a 1 in. That may be why you got a bump, because you didn't get deep enough. I use 25X1's on my delts and quads and 22X1.5's on my glutes. Hope this helps.
Digitalash
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I like quads personally, if its a bit painful you can at least sit 
It does get better though, I've been pinning quads at least once a week for over a year (cruisin) and if I didn't remember which one I did last I'd have no idea
It does get better though, I've been pinning quads at least once a week for over a year (cruisin) and if I didn't remember which one I did last I'd have no idea
** Pics and Updated Stats**
Weight: 215
BP: 141/72 HR:90
Neck:16.25in
Chest:46in
Bicep:16.5in
Forearm:13in
Waist:36in
Hip:41in
Quad:26.25
Calf:16in
Pics have chunks and shit missing because file sizes were too large
Pinned on Tuesday and my glute is still sore as FUARK. Haven't felt the methadrol or the test kick in yet, but then again its only been 2 days lol so I dont expect anything till at least next Tuesday. Probably the placebo effect but I definitely went harder in the gym the last two days. Eating has been going well, getting in 6 meals a day with a minimum of 50g per meal so I'm getting at least 300g a day. Carbs are fine too, although I've been "on the go" a lot this past week so I've been eating a little dirtier than I want. 5/6 meals are quality though. Other than that not much more to report, just wanted to get these pics and stats up. I know how boring and annoying a log is when you don't have pics or measurements to reference.
As a side note.. I felt like I was Jay Cutler hitting those poses flexing every muscle.. then I looked at the pictures and realized I look like an autistic kid acting like a bodybuilder soooo.. excuse the shitty ass form lol these are just for reference. Tried to get a few angles for ya.
Weight: 215
BP: 141/72 HR:90
Neck:16.25in
Chest:46in
Bicep:16.5in
Forearm:13in
Waist:36in
Hip:41in
Quad:26.25
Calf:16in
Pics have chunks and shit missing because file sizes were too large
Pinned on Tuesday and my glute is still sore as FUARK. Haven't felt the methadrol or the test kick in yet, but then again its only been 2 days lol so I dont expect anything till at least next Tuesday. Probably the placebo effect but I definitely went harder in the gym the last two days. Eating has been going well, getting in 6 meals a day with a minimum of 50g per meal so I'm getting at least 300g a day. Carbs are fine too, although I've been "on the go" a lot this past week so I've been eating a little dirtier than I want. 5/6 meals are quality though. Other than that not much more to report, just wanted to get these pics and stats up. I know how boring and annoying a log is when you don't have pics or measurements to reference.
As a side note.. I felt like I was Jay Cutler hitting those poses flexing every muscle.. then I looked at the pictures and realized I look like an autistic kid acting like a bodybuilder soooo.. excuse the shitty ass form lol these are just for reference. Tried to get a few angles for ya.
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Heated the syringe up last night before pin and WOW huge difference. Pain went down by a factor of 10. The first one I woke up feeling like I got fucking shot. This one just feels a little bruised. Totally manageable. I highly recommend this for anyone with pip. Also shook the bottle a bunch before I drew, no clue if that does shit but I was trying everything lol
Update
So I've done about six pins now, 2 in each glutes and 2 in the left delt. Every time the area gets swollen and red with pitting edema and hurts like a MOTHERFUCKER. for about 5-8 days. Its never hot and it always gets less every day which makes me confident its not infected (im always swabbing the shit out of everything and pinning correctly dont worry) Everyone says how smooth Kalpa is and calls me a liar and shit but I'm over here living it.. no reason for me to exaggerate or make shit up. Its middle of week three, I stopped the methadrol at the end of week 2 because my blood pressure was getting crazy and I started feeling like shit every time I took it. I haven't felt that "superman" feeling or any increase in appetite. Actually if anything I've noticed a decrease in appetite especially in the mornings. I initially blew up to 224ish because of water weight but now after a couple weeks of aromasin and almost a week of no methadrol ive dried back out but kept my weight at around 221-224 depending on the day. So far I couldn't tell you if I was injecting fuckin water or steroids into my ass every 3 days but I'll wait another week and a half to be safe. Updated pics will be coming soon. Tonight if my delt doesnt blow the fuck up by tonight or in 5 days when the swelling is over. I'll be getting blood test in about 2 weeks.
So I've done about six pins now, 2 in each glutes and 2 in the left delt. Every time the area gets swollen and red with pitting edema and hurts like a MOTHERFUCKER. for about 5-8 days. Its never hot and it always gets less every day which makes me confident its not infected (im always swabbing the shit out of everything and pinning correctly dont worry) Everyone says how smooth Kalpa is and calls me a liar and shit but I'm over here living it.. no reason for me to exaggerate or make shit up. Its middle of week three, I stopped the methadrol at the end of week 2 because my blood pressure was getting crazy and I started feeling like shit every time I took it. I haven't felt that "superman" feeling or any increase in appetite. Actually if anything I've noticed a decrease in appetite especially in the mornings. I initially blew up to 224ish because of water weight but now after a couple weeks of aromasin and almost a week of no methadrol ive dried back out but kept my weight at around 221-224 depending on the day. So far I couldn't tell you if I was injecting fuckin water or steroids into my ass every 3 days but I'll wait another week and a half to be safe. Updated pics will be coming soon. Tonight if my delt doesnt blow the fuck up by tonight or in 5 days when the swelling is over. I'll be getting blood test in about 2 weeks.
Digitalash
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If it's painful that most likely means theres a fair amount of hormone in it. I'm pretty sure oil and BA alone wouldn't be painful much if any, unless the BA was quite high I guess. It's too early to tell, bloodwork is a great idea. Post it in the lab test section when you get it. Sorry if I missed it but how many cals are you eating per day? Comin up on week 4 your test will be kickin soon, since you didn't kickstart (at least fully) upping cals too much might've caused some fat gain. You can start bumping it up now though if you haven't already. Also you could continue the methadrol at a lower dose, or "pulse" it just on workout days so you don't have to waste it.
cactus-pits
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I'm taking a seat for this log..looks interesting
Ya man I tried just taking it 1 cap a day but after a couple hours I would get this bangin headache and a "foggy" sort of feeling. I just decided that I would stop taking it to be safe. I pinned last night around 8pm and went to sleep around 2am.. I sweat so much during the night I thought I pissed myself everytime I woke up lol. Even without taking the methadrol sometimes my head feels like my bp is high but not nearly as bad as with the methadrol. oh and I dont have an exact calorie count as I haven't put it into a calculator but I get between 275-325g of protein a day roughly 500g of carbs. and a limit of 150g of fats. 50g of which are always quality fats. I just put the limit there so I can have a cheeseburger or whatever when I'm on the go. I lower carbs a bit on off days, probably getting around 300 (not sure if this is a good thing, but always heard that carb cycling is good)
Got a copy of my last hormone panel. It was in 2010 but its the latest one I have. I haven't taken anything that would mess with my hormones so these should be approximately what they were before I started cycle. I'll use this one to compare with my blood test ill be taking in a couple of weeks. I'd appreciate some input on if these levels are normal. I'll also post this up in the lab testing forum to get a better consensus but since this is my log and I wanted all the info centralized here I'm also putting it here.
FSH: 5.7
LH: 4.0
Estradiol: 33
Testosterone Total: 521
Free Testosterone: 128.7
FSH: 5.7
LH: 4.0
Estradiol: 33
Testosterone Total: 521
Free Testosterone: 128.7
Well Ive been trying to get pics up in this bitch for the last week and a half but I've been pinning delts and have a goofy ass swell in my delts that I think would kinda beat the point of taking a pic. So I promise as soon as the swelling is down in the delts I'll post progress pics. As far as the gear goes, I get some good PIP now. Not as bad as at first but my shit is definitely sore for a few days after a pin so I know that it's strong. I'm coming up on week five though and I have yet to feel any sort of "superman" feeling or go any harder in the gym. I also don't feel any hungrier, in fact maybe less hungry than usual in the morning. However I am still hungry enough to get 275-325g of protein per day. That being said, I have dried out, leaned up a tiny bit, but I don't gain any fucking weight... I have been at 221-223 no matter what basically since I started. I was 224-225 the second week on Methadrol but since I've dropped that I have stayed at 221-223 without fail. I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong. Strength gains are there but nothing freaky like 50 lbs on bench or something. Overall I'm not really impressed with the results for all the bullshit I have to do and the sides I'm dealing with. Maybe I just expected too much, but I thought going from 215lbs-230lbs wouldn't be outrageous to expect on 10 weeks of Test E. Still have 5 weeks left but well see. The trend doesnt look good.
i started my methadrol extreme within a couple days of when you started yours so ive been following your log to see how youve felt and what kind of results youve gotten from it....and i can say i feel the EXACT same way about methadrol extreme! its made me feel like shit, not much if any gains at all, big headache and overall sick type feeling, not hungry much...overall idk i wish i didnt waste the money on it because of how its made me feel and with other logs ive read people were gainin a bunch of mass from is, getting real vascular and superman type feeling, i didnt feel good at all on it.
twistedsteel
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I'm doing a test c/Methadrol cycle as well. I'm getting some nosebleeds but getting the benefits to go along with the sides, though. I'm up 7 lbs in a week and already pushing more weight. Makes me feel a little lethargic but that's about it. I'm hoping my results when the test c kicks in will be as profound..
twistedsteel
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I'm doing a test c/Methadrol cycle as well. I'm getting some nosebleeds but getting the benefits to go along with the sides, though. I'm up 7 lbs in a week and already pushing more weight. Makes me feel a little lethargic but that's about it. I'm hoping my results when the test c kicks in will be as profound..
kobefan234
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most orals kill your appetite
and are you still heating your testosterone b4 you inject? that might explain the pain..
Yeah I run it under hot water for 30-45 seconds but whether I do that or not it still hurts lol. The pain isn't nearly as bad as it was in the beginning but I still get some decent pip. I also stopped taking the oral at start of week 3 and its week 5 now.
kobefan234
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maybe try pinning after a shower.. the steam might help
Not an option as I pin at a buddy's house before we lift. Its cool though I've gotten used to the pain.
As an update. I am STILL staying at 221-223 lbs. I can't figure it out. I'm definitely eating what would be considered a bulking quantity of protein even if I was somehow miscalculating what I'm eating (which I'm not). As I said I have leaned out a tiny bit and my muscles look a bit harder and fuller but I'm not "blowing up" and I still don't have any kind of "superman" feeling or ANY out of the ordinary feeling at all. Strength has gone up a little bit but again nothing dramatic.
kobefan234
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has the test "kicked in" yet?
malfeasance
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I have tried only two manufacturers. The first one gave me pain and grotesque swelling. The second one did not. I tossed the first one out after the fourth pin and will not use that brand again.
There is no excuse for that.
Do you think this is happening to US TRT patients on their scripts? Not a chance! Find another source.
Thats what I figured but a shit load of people on here have used Kalpa brand before and suck its dick hard saying they have zero pip etc. etc. I just chalked it up to being a first time user.
Also, I haven't had pic updates yet because my shoulders have been almost constantly fucked up and swollen and weird looking but to satiate curiosity I'll update with measurements.
Neck: 16.5 +.25in
Chest: 47 +1in
Bicep: 16.75 +.25in
Forearm: 13.25 +.25in
Waist: 36 +/-0in
Hip:42 +1in
Quad: 27 +.75in
Calf: 16.25 +25.in
Overall I suppose decent gains so far. Was hoping for slightly better but gaining is gaining
Neck: 16.5 +.25in
Chest: 47 +1in
Bicep: 16.75 +.25in
Forearm: 13.25 +.25in
Waist: 36 +/-0in
Hip:42 +1in
Quad: 27 +.75in
Calf: 16.25 +25.in
Overall I suppose decent gains so far. Was hoping for slightly better but gaining is gaining
kobefan234
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I imagine it's hard to train with the injection sites being sore as hell.
That happened to me ...
That happened to me ...
Standard Donkey
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your ass is a virgin.. you say? 
