Testicle Atrophy Question

[TrojanMan60563]

I never really cycled long enough to have it before or at least noticed it. I've been on HRT for at least a year now, and about 6 weeks ago started 400mg Test C and 200mg Deca. Well I've started noticing that the boys are shrinking. I have also noticed that my semen is not as white and more liquid than thick. I'm wondering if the change in semen is diet or possibly severe shut down due to the AAS. Getting some HCG soon so I suppose after they come back to size I'll know if the semen changes with it. I've always had a thick load and this much thinner consistency has got me wondering.

 

[alexvega]

what about Lh Fsh?
remember the oligospermia like second efect to AAS.
the semen it s going to be more seminal fluids and less spermatozois
thats happen to me time ago

now about the HRT, can say nothing no i dont have any experience .

good look

 

[jay_steel]

Deca is the only thing that has ever affected my loads... Look into prami as well or caber... along with your HCG,.. I took a week worth of clomid and started HCG and I was blasting my wifes face again.. When i was on deca i couldnt even bust but a few drops and I would go limp too.. I am on 600mg of NPP this time and have had ZERO issues

 

[dieseljimmy]

My ball stack is a sad shadow of its once former glory. My cycles are heavy and long. And I'm definitely not staring in any adult films. My loads are sad and not projecting very far. That may be because of my test and Masteron induced compulsive masturbation tho.

still produced two children. Your never safe!

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Thanks for the replies

Jay the volume isn't really that bad its just the thickness or texture that changed the most. My test to deca ratio must be ok as I have no issues getting hard and staying hard. I fuck my girlfriend repeatedly every chance I get I will probably drop the deca if the HCG doesn't fix things. At the dose I am running its not like the results are amazing. I'm sure the 400mg test is where I am seeing most of my results considering I'm only 8 weeks into this. I do feel like my shoulders are pain free on chest days and I'm lifting more now than I have in years.

 

[Mike Oxbig]

How long were your previous cycles? I did a 12 week cycle and never experienced any atrophy despite the fact I never used HCG. It got me wondering whether or not I would still get atrophy if I ever needed to go on TRT in the future.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

How long were your previous cycles? I did a 12 week cycle and never experienced any atrophy despite the fact I never used HCG. It got me wondering whether or not I would still get atrophy if I ever needed to go on TRT in the future.

I mostly ran short prop cycles 6-8 weeks at a time. Would kick start with dbol. I ran deca on 1 8 weeker (yeah I realize that was probably useless). I never used HCG but also never noticed much in the way of testicular shrinkage. I did notice some shrinkage on 150mg test C per week but barely noticeable. Now on 400mg Test C and 200mg Deca I for sure have shrinkage and my load has changed in appearance which is what sparked this thread for me. I have made a lot of diet changes but I think the semen is altered because of the atrophy I have experienced. I have to assume I'm pretty shut down right now. So plan is to start running 250iu twice a week soon and see how that changes things. I'm kind of excited to see the boys back to their full glory.

 

[independent]

My loads are thick and chunky like paste not using hcg. Strange. The wife would be happy if nothing came out.

 

[gman10]

Haha....yeah bigmoe, whenever I finish the wife always says the "what if".....she does bring that "V" word up BUT no fuckin way would I ever do that......

 

[dieseljimmy]

Haha....yeah bigmoe, whenever I finish the wife always says the "what if".....she does bring that "V" word up BUT no fuckin way would I ever do that......

Bro skeet skeet without fear. I don't know why you wouldn't consider that!

 

[theCaptn']

Bro skeet skeet without fear. I don't know why you wouldn't consider that!

Yeah man, it's the smartest thing you can do if you're breeding days are over ... For a lot of reasons

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Mine used to be thick and gross.... I hope HCG brings back those type of knock your girl up kind of loads. Then I'll knock up the woman and wish I didn't. Sometimes its best to not get what you ask for.

 

[heckler7]

I never really cycled long enough to have it before or at least noticed it. I've been on HRT for at least a year now, and about 6 weeks ago started 400mg Test C and 200mg Deca. Well I've started noticing that the boys are shrinking. I have also noticed that my semen is not as white and more liquid than thick. I'm wondering if the change in semen is diet or possibly severe shut down due to the AAS. Getting some HCG soon so I suppose after they come back to size I'll know if the semen changes with it. I've always had a thick load and this much thinner consistency has got me wondering.

I never use hcg and my balls come back fine just take a while to clear your system I guess.

 

[alexvega]

I never really cycled long enough to have it before or at least noticed it. I've been on HRT for at least a year now, and about 6 weeks ago started 400mg Test C and 200mg Deca. Well I've started noticing that the boys are shrinking. I have also noticed that my semen is not as white and more liquid than thick. I'm wondering if the change in semen is diet or possibly severe shut down due to the AAS. Getting some HCG soon so I suppose after they come back to size I'll know if the semen changes with it. I've always had a thick load and this much thinner consistency has got me wondering.

Dude i remember when i stop by in this forum the first time, and you give me some advise, i thing you are running the gears for a long time

and probably the gland or testis are burned off. consider to make a biopsy of ur boys . take a LH -FSH and test.

my recomendation is to stop !

Good luck!!!

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Dude i remember when i stop by in this forum the first time, and you give me some advise, i thing you are running the gears for a long time

and probably the gland or testis are burned off. consider to make a biopsy of ur boys . take a LH -FSH and test.

my recomendation is to stop !

Good luck!!!

I did some short ester cycles years ago. Been on TRT for awhile. Now I went a longer ester mild cycle but I'm just not thrilled with some of the sides. Lipids are changing for the worst, blood pressure is up a bit, and anxiety and emotions are all over the place. So I am actually going to stop and work on getting natty test back to par. If I can't I'll do a reasonable dose TRT and work on remaining fertile if that is possible. I'm pretty sure I am still fertile if not now with a little help from some meds. I don't think I have more than like 20-25% atrophy of the boys.

 

[moodyman1]

I took a week worth of clomid and started HCG and I was blasting my wifes face again..

priceless

 

[s2h]

Testicular atrophy is OK with some and not with others...but health wise its not a issue..over time you won't even notice anymore..

Now the anxiety...emotions...lipids and bp up are a concern...need to get labs on cycle to identify the issue(s)..
IMO prami or caber would be a mistake..

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Testicular atrophy is OK with some and not with others...but health wise its not a issue..over time you won't even notice anymore..

Now the anxiety...emotions...lipids and bp up are a concern...need to get labs on cycle to identify the issue(s)..
IMO prami or caber would be a mistake..

The balls are my least concern aside from fertility. The anxiety/emotion swings are brutal. I am 100% sure its not helping that my relationship is up and down causing me to be up and down, and the hormones probably just amplifying the emotions I feel. None the less I still can't stand it. Most important is the lipids and BP. I've made some dietary changes and increased my AI since my estrogen was like a couple points away from being high. my diastolic pressure is fine its the systolic pressure that isn't cool with me. Its dropped around 10 points already so that's a good deal.

Basically I'm not going to cycle if my body isn't going to agree with it. My health long term means more to me than an extra 20-30 pounds of muscle....and I'm not making any monetary gains from doing this to myself so its impossible to justify.

 

[blergs.]

I never really cycled long enough to have it before or at least noticed it. I've been on HRT for at least a year now, and about 6 weeks ago started 400mg Test C and 200mg Deca. Well I've started noticing that the boys are shrinking. I have also noticed that my semen is not as white and more liquid than thick. I'm wondering if the change in semen is diet or possibly severe shut down due to the AAS. Getting some HCG soon so I suppose after they come back to size I'll know if the semen changes with it. I've always had a thick load and this much thinner consistency has got me wondering.

If you are on hrt you will always be shut down. I don't see the point of HCG use unless its for contraception or it really really bugs you that much. even on cycle i think its good for helping at end of cycle leading to pct. but not to keep "boys plump"
I mean why does it matter?
unno just my opinion..

Im on hrt and i just leave em, doesn't change anything but less chance of kids which is a + right now.

 

[blergs.]

The balls are my least concern aside from fertility. The anxiety/emotion swings are brutal. I am 100% sure its not helping that my relationship is up and down causing me to be up and down, and the hormones probably just amplifying the emotions I feel. None the less I still can't stand it. Most important is the lipids and BP. I've made some dietary changes and increased my AI since my estrogen was like a couple points away from being high. my diastolic pressure is fine its the systolic pressure that isn't cool with me. Its dropped around 10 points already so that's a good deal.

Basically I'm not going to cycle if my body isn't going to agree with it. My health long term means more to me than an extra 20-30 pounds of muscle....and I'm not making any monetary gains from doing this to myself so its impossible to justify.

I have also hard of anxiety WITH using HCG also.

 

[blergs.]

How long were your previous cycles? I did a 12 week cycle and never experienced any atrophy despite the fact I never used HCG. It got me wondering whether or not I would still get atrophy if I ever needed to go on TRT in the future.

your human. eventually you would shrink on hrt.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

If you are on hrt you will always be shut down. I don't see the point of HCG use unless its for contraception or it really really bugs you that much. even on cycle i think its good for helping at end of cycle leading to pct. but not to keep "boys plump"
I mean why does it matter?
unno just my opinion..

Im on hrt and i just leave em, doesn't change anything but less chance of kids which is a + right now.

It doesn't really matter minus my girlfriend that wants to have a kid, and I wouldn't mind hooking her up with one....we are both at the right age to have them etc... So the size isn't as much of a concern as the fertility. As for HCG causing anxiety I have heard that as well. I have not started on it yet so I don't know. Going to wait another few weeks until this deca clears me (or most of it) before I waste my time trying to use HCG and Clomid.

 

[s2h]

Anxiety is more common then most would think on steroids....high or low e2 could be the culprit..get labs and see what's up..

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Anxiety is more common then most would think on steroids....high or low e2 could be the culprit..get labs and see what's up..

E was 39...very high end of normal. I spoke to my endo today and he said I should go back to the 150mg per week. I asked about estrogen and he said he wont treat that unless I have side effects of it like gyno etc. I find it funny that low T can cause increase in fat and loss of muscle. High E can cause fat as well and make it harder to get lean. I mentioned this and he said that is cosmetic not a health issue. Doctors are fucking morons. I need to find an endo that has a clue.

 

[2B1]

E was 39...very high end of normal. I spoke to my endo today and he said I should go back to the 150mg per week. I asked about estrogen and he said he wont treat that unless I have side effects of it like gyno etc. I find it funny that low T can cause increase in fat and loss of muscle. High E can cause fat as well and make it harder to get lean. I mentioned this and he said that is cosmetic not a health issue. Doctors are fucking morons. I need to find an endo that has a clue.

What a douche...

 

[blergs.]

agreed---^