These People Demand Citizenship!!!

[clemson357]

Is it just me, or does it seem illogical to protest for AMERICAN citizenship, while flying a Mexican flag, or disgracing an American flag by flying it upside-down? Or hold a rally where you chant in spanish?

If you want to convence someone to let you immigrate, wouldn't it make sense to show respect for the American flag, and form a well-articulated argument IN ENGLISH?

Kind of like those Muslims in France who rioted, burned cars, and assaulted police officers because of those cartoons depicting Muslims as irrational and violent....

 

[GFR]

Is it just me, or does it seem illogical to protest for AMERICAN citizenship, while flying a Mexican flag, or disgracing an American flag by flying it upside-down? Or hold a rally where you chant in spanish?

If you want to convence someone to let you immigrate, wouldn't it make sense to show respect for the American flag, and form a well-articulated argument IN ENGLISH?

Kind of like those Muslims in France who rioted, burned cars, and assaulted police officers because of those cartoons depicting Muslims as irrational and violent....

Another Racist thread.....big surprise.

 

[Dale Mabry]

It boggles my mind that people can protest the enforcement of a pre-existing law that they are breaking. There are plenty of ways to get citizenship, speaking English should be a pre-requisite. I think if perhaps a few of them took a cue from the many people who come here legally and attain citizenship, this problem would be resolved.

 

[Steele20]

Is it just me, or does it seem illogical to protest for AMERICAN citizenship, while flying a Mexican flag, or disgracing an American flag by flying it upside-down? Or hold a rally where you chant in spanish?

If you want to convence someone to let you immigrate, wouldn't it make sense to show respect for the American flag, and form a well-articulated argument IN ENGLISH?

Kind of like those Muslims in France who rioted, burned cars, and assaulted police officers because of those cartoons depicting Muslims as irrational and violent....

I say deport the retards.

 

[clemson357]

Another Racist thread.....big surprise.

Another worthless post....big surprise



Tell me, exactly what race am I bigoted against to say that people supporting immigration should show respect for the country they want to immigrate into? Foreman, you are just another irrational liberal without the brain capacity to form an original thought.

 

[GFR]

Another worthless post....big surprise



Tell me, exactly what race am I bigoted against to say that people supporting immigration should show respect for the country they want to immigrate into? Foreman, you are just another irrational liberal without the brain capacity to form an original thought.

When you poat a thread that is not bashing: Blacks, Mexicans or Arabs I will let you knoiw son.

 

[clemson357]

When you poat a thread that is not bashing: Blacks, Mexicans or Arabs I will let you knoiw son.

Shit, those greedy blacks, mexicans, and arabs sure have sealed there own fate, right foreman? Thats not racism, that classism, right? you are a fucking idiot.

 

[GFR]

Shit, those greedy blacks, mexicans, and arabs sure have sealed there own fate, right foreman? Thats not racism, that classism, right? you are a fucking idiot.

Look up classism and get back to us son

 

[topolo]

missile away

 

[GFR]

clemsons worst nightmare

 

[clemson357]

The crutch of the weak-minded:

 

[Steele20]

Another worthless post....big surprise

 

[GFR]

The crutch of the weak-minded:

I agree, and so is this

 

[shiznit2169]

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

 

[clemson357]

yeah....

 

[GFR]

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

I want to move into your house son, now shut up and go pop a zit.

 

[GFR]

yeah....

I bet you like how they are holding the flag

 

[shiznit2169]

I want to move into your house son, now shut up and go pop a zit.

Why dont you grow up? You're 38 years old for christ sake.

 

[GFR]

Why dont you grow up? You're 38 years old for christ sake.

I'm growing right now thinking of you

 

[clemson357]

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

Foreman definitely hates white people, which is strange because he looks like a redneck in his gallery...pale, cut-off shirt...

 

[GFR]

Foreman definitely hates white people, which is strange because he looks like a redneck in his gallery...pale, cut-off shirt...

clemson's America

 

[NeilPearson]

It boggles my mind that people can protest the enforcement of a pre-existing law that they are breaking. There are plenty of ways to get citizenship, speaking English should be a pre-requisite. I think if perhaps a few of them took a cue from the many people who come here legally and attain citizenship, this problem would be resolved.

It's not quite that easy to gain citizenship. It's not something you can just apply for. I've been here on visas that I have to re-apply for yearly since 1999. I am probably 2 years away from getting a Green Card still and will NEVER be elligible for citizenship. The only reason I have it so easy is because I have a degree and a job where the company is willing to sponsor me.

And that pre-existing law is a law that hasn't been enforced really ever. We are talking about people that have lived and worked here for 30-40 years. They have American children and grandchildren and many of them spent years working under the table for you and me doing yard work, etc. They haven't exactly been hiding. Even police, government buildings, politicians and immigration officers have been employing them for years... and now all of the sudden we are going to enforce the law and throw them out of a country they have called home for 40 years?

 

[KelJu]

It's not quite that easy to gain citizenship. It's not something you can just apply for. I've been here on visas that I have to re-apply for yearly since 1999. I am probably 2 years away from getting a Green Card still and will NEVER be elligible for citizenship. The only reason I have it so easy is because I have a degree and a job where the company is willing to sponsor me.

And that pre-existing law is a law that hasn't been enforced really ever. We are talking about people that have lived and worked here for 30-40 years. They have American children and grandchildren and many of them spent years working under the table for you and me doing yard work, etc. They haven't exactly been hiding. Even police, government buildings, politicians and immigration officers have been employing them for years... and now all of the sudden we are going to enforce the law and throw them out of a country they have called home for 40 years?

That???s funny, because I go to college with about a 1000 legal immigrants every semester who have no trouble at all attaining their proper documentation.
What you mean to say is someone who is poor, uneducated, and too fucking lazy to pick up a book and learn English can't just apply for citizenship.

 

[NeilPearson]

That???s funny, because I go to college with about a 1000 legal immigrants every semester who have no trouble at all attaining their proper documentation.
What you mean to say is someone who is poor, uneducated, and too fucking lazy to pick up a book and learn English can't just apply for citizenship.

Of course you do. Student visas can be obtained by anyone. It's one thing to get a student visa. It is something else completely to get citizenship or a green card.

 

[kbm8795]

Yeah.....how dare anyone fly a flag that ain't American?


Well, except maybe these traitors. . .with the Stars and Bars. . .

 

[min0 lee]

Foreman, you are a weird individual

It's like you hate being white. You act like you're a black person, a mexican person, a hispanic person, and you always get so angry whenever someone .. usually clemson, post something about politics or immigration or low class society. In fact, you hate america.

I mean, if you hate it so much .. why don't you go move. If you don't support anything then get out.

There was another post made by another member that was similar but I side with Foreman on Clemson.
I would love to see him post something positive or different, I also post threads about current events but not insult that persons race.
I have been around a lot of good people from other races to know better.


We all have our prejudices, I can understand that but Clemson's a little coward who will not admit it. At least Richyo.. admitted to being a bigot, and you know what....I respect him for that.

 

[min0 lee]

Of course you do. Student visas can be obtained by anyone. It's one thing to get a student visa. It is something else completely to get citizenship or a green card.

he's right.

 

[Dale Mabry]

It's not quite that easy to gain citizenship. It's not something you can just apply for. I've been here on visas that I have to re-apply for yearly since 1999. I am probably 2 years away from getting a Green Card still and will NEVER be elligible for citizenship. The only reason I have it so easy is because I have a degree and a job where the company is willing to sponsor me.

And that pre-existing law is a law that hasn't been enforced really ever. We are talking about people that have lived and worked here for 30-40 years. They have American children and grandchildren and many of them spent years working under the table for you and me doing yard work, etc. They haven't exactly been hiding. Even police, government buildings, politicians and immigration officers have been employing them for years... and now all of the sudden we are going to enforce the law and throw them out of a country they have called home for 40 years?

Not me, I am from VT, no Mexicans up there.

It is not that difficult, I have friends who have done it, you have managed nicely it seems. You have to be here for like 5 years and then pass a test. Provided you fill out paperwork you are pretty good to go. I can see how that would be a problem for someone who doesn't speak English. More of an issue, I believe, is paying taxes. See where that $8 an hour takes them then. If they are just given citizenship, a family of 4 can't live on $8 and prolly qualifies for welfare.

 

[KelJu]

he's right.

Ok, let me explain this a little more. I realize that a student visa isn't citizenship. I have a handful of friends that have already applied for their citizenship. My friend, Mo, says that he was allowed to apply after being a legal resident of the US for 5 years, which worked out well for him, because he will be graduating right at about the same time as his paperwork goes through. Basically, all he had to do was renew his student visa every year for five years then take a test and apply for citizenship where he then will swear in, and became a full fledged American. He also told me that his brother has already gone through the process, but came to the US on a work visa. The same process applies. All he had to do is keep renewing his work visa every year for five years, and maintain residence in the US. At the end of the 5 years he applied and was granted citizenship. By the way, Mo and is brother are from Pakistan, so you can not tell me that it is harder for a Mexican to be granted citizenship than an Arab.
You know what did make the whole process a lot easier for them?

KNOWING HOW TO FUCKING SPEAK ENGLISH!!!

If you are too stupid or uneducated to figure out how to apply for a work visa, then I do not want you to come here. The collective intelligence of the US is low enough as it is without people bringing it down lower.
I am going to ask some of my other friends if they plan to immigrate to the US, and how hard it was for them to do so. I will let you guys know what they have to say about the subject, because I am sure they can provide some insight into this.

 

[NeilPearson]

Not me, I am from VT, no Mexicans up there.

It is not that difficult, I have friends who have done it, you have managed nicely it seems. You have to be here for like 5 years and then pass a test. Provided you fill out paperwork you are pretty good to go. I can see how that would be a problem for someone who doesn't speak English. More of an issue, I believe, is paying taxes. See where that $8 an hour takes them then. If they are just given citizenship, a family of 4 can't live on $8 and prolly qualifies for welfare.

I am an English speaking Canadian (I don't speak French) and have been working and paying taxes in the US since 1999. I hope they finish processing my Green Card within the next couple of years. I will never be eligible for citizenship under the current laws. I know lots of immigrants here too... and most are on visas or have a Green Card. I don't know anyone that has citizenship who was born outside of the country. I would bet the people you are talking about aren't citizens. They probably just have green cards or visas. The US government isn't handing out a lot of citizenships (at least not to Canadians)