Originally posted by BodyByHeinekenª
What place does training the intercoastal muscles have in achieving a that badass 6 pack? Bob Paris says that you shouldn't train intercoastals unless you want your waist to be as wide as your shoulders..Now I know it sounds a little wierd..but again, do twisting ab excersizes have any effect on a getting a six pack?
Well of course jenny has to out her .02 in here. This is plain bullshit in my opinion although it does depend upon who you are and what condition your in when you start training obliques and intercostals.
I do 25lb obliques every second day and iron crosses and lateral planche holds and my waist is 25" so that theory is out.
For a couple of the comments before.
Cardio isnt nessesary but low bodyfat is to be able to see those abs. However some people dont genetically have thick abs and so you have to build them (using resistance) or you wont be able to see them at 11%. 26% (male) is a bit too much to see them if your not a genetic freak.
My theory and how i make my clients train abs. Do heavy sets of low reps with a variety of movements until you feel like puking 3 times. Then your done

It works
And Yes soduim does play a part in seeing your abs but not when you arent that lean. If you have fzt you have fat and you wont see them soduim or not
No supplement will give you abs. Proper diet + resistance exercise and sometimes cardio = 8 pack
And as Jen said some people dont have mini chicklet looking abs no matter what you do. But it doesnt hurt to try and get down there to see whatcha got .
My trisets for building abs are:
done in 3 sets.
20reps decline 25lb crunches
10reps a side 25lb obliques
1min planche hold
done in 3 sets.
20reps 15lb medicine ball iron crosses
15reps standing cable rope crunches
30sec a side lateral planche holds