TP's Gettin' Freaky

[kuso]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Hey man I am from New York, he is a southerner! And I think GoPro would agree.

Naproxen is a prescription med, that reduces tendon inflamation.

And yes, its itchy. Also get that warm (not quite burning) feeling when I sweat.

lol@gopro!

Prescription eh? Wonder hwere I could get some of that...have to do some searching

That itchiness will get worse I think...for me my back was particularly itchy...

And that burn too...wsn`t the most pleasent feeling, but for me it subsided greatly when the sweat started to flow.

 

[Twin Peak]

WEEK 2 January 20-26 (2003)

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Wk..Wgt..Stm..Arm..BF%..Tanita..Pec..Ab..Thgh..Tri..Subsc..Suprail..Axil

Wk 1..223???41 ½???..18???..(20%)...X
Wk 2..227???42?????????18??????..?????????.19.6
???.(Mid)??????????????????????????????19.9%?????????19.8...16...33....18.....x.......x....22....18

Wk 3

*Caliper measurements are in mm. BF% is based on calipers and the Jackson Pollock 3 point method. Week 1 BF% is a guess. Week2 measurements are done midweek.

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So th damn Tanita scale is within .1 of the Jackson Pollock, which is most interesting. This week I'll use the calipers each night so I get used to them. BTW, my personal guess of "around 20%" was pretty damn on the money. Am I fat, or what! At least it'll make cutting easier!

 

[Stacey]

!~~~ Watch Out~ this journal is getting freaking good~~

TP YOU ROCK!!

ohh and your far from fat honey!!

 

[lina]

TP that does sound interesting about those % being so close!

Where did you get that scale and is that the one you stand on? I had thought about getting the hand held Electronic Bioimpedence bf measurers last year.... they do sound convenient and if they are so close to calipers....

Who did your calipers testing for you?

 

[dvlmn666]

Hey dude, looks awesome, congrats on throwing around the huge weights. jAnd glad to hear the shoulder is feeling good.

 

[Twin Peak]

Thanks folks! Glad its somewhat interesting.

Lina, its a Tanita handheld. I wouldn't bet that it stays this close, we shall see. I have never been "calipered" before so this is a first. I have noticed that when my BF% gets low (under 12%) the tantita starts to get screwy. I bought it online for $30.

I did the calipers myself, which is why I am using the 3-point rather than the 7 point. I think I did the stomach wrong so I may be a bit lower, actually. Yippee.

 

[lina]

I see... well I think atleast the Tanita gives you a starting point to compare PLUS ease of use!

I did my 3 point too myself but I think my tricep skinfold was the hardest to manage... must train hubby to do that next time... then I'll move him up eventually to the 7 point one

 

[Twin Peak]

I think you could find ways to entice him. Me, my wife just laughs at me. Oh well.

Its not very expensive to get the Tanita, and I do think it is fairly consistent, though I never though accurate. I am curious to see how it holds up when I start my diet.

 

[Twin Peak]

THURSDAY: A day off, and much needed, man do I ache. Kept food an cals low today, as I stated I would do. Food intake was 4 ½ cups of 1% cottage cheese, 1 cup fiber 1, 5 oz skirt steak, 2 pieces of flounder, lean pork (3 oz?), string beans, 2 cups of cous cous, an APM 60 and 2 TBSP of PB. Waist size was back to 41 ½, good!

FRIDAY: I feel much better today. Most of that achyness and overtraining feeling is gone. Workout this morning, shoulders, was great. I felt rejuvenated with that one day off. No way could I recover this quickly withOUT the Avant products. I was very strong too. 45s for lateral raises was almost too light. Worked up to 275 for presses, singles of course. That is a PB. Every workout it???s a new PB, and my cals are normal. Its been a week and a half, this stuff is excellent. I am not sure that I think that the 4-diol is adding much though. Too early to assess.

Food was generally good today but I???ll be having a few beers with dinner out tonight.

Weight was down to 224, a result of the light eating yesterday I am sure. No biggy, I am curious to see my numbers on Monday.

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
No way could I recover this quickly with the Avant products.

????

You mean "without"?

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
????

You mean "without"?

All the shit I write and THIS is what you comment on.

Oh well, at least someone is paying attention, yes, I meant without. Fixed it, thanks for keeping me honest.

 

[oceangurl01]

is it ok to buy the atkins no carb syrup and the muffins???

 

[Robboe]

There's not much to say really. You seem to have all the T's crossed and the I's dotted. It's just plain sailing from now on in.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by oceangurl01
is it ok to buy the atkins no carb syrup and the muffins???

ok for what?

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
There's not much to say really. You seem to have all the T's crossed and the I's dotted. It's just plain sailing from now on in.

Wow, never thought I'd hear those words from you, Rob. Course I realize you are probably holding your tongue on at least one or two points, lest they fall on deaf ears.

 

[Twin Peak]

Weekend: Felt great. Rest was superb and much needed. Looking forward to the coming week, week 3. Food wasn???t too bad given the superbowl weekend, but I did have several strawberry daquiris (homemade so just strawberries, sugar, and rum) on Saturday and 6 or so light beers on Sunday. Well, half of the 4 week bulk is now over, yeah, and cutting is around the friggin corner ??? I can???t wait!

 

[Britney]

I hear you on the "can't wait to cut." I have this inner demon screaming "Get on the treadmill" inside me.

 

[Twin Peak]

WEEK 3 January 27-Feb 2 (2003)

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Wk..Wgt..Stm..Arm..BF%..Tanita..Pec..Ab..Thgh..Suprail..Axil

Start..223???41 ½???..18???..(20%)...X
Wk 1..227???42?????????18??????..?????????.19.6
???.(Mid)??????????????????????????????19.9%?????????19.8...16..33/28..18.....22....18
Wk 2..225..42........18...19.9..........19.4...16..33/28..18..22....18

*Caliper measurements are in mm. BF% is based on calipers and the Jackson Pollock 3 point method. Start BF% is a guess.

So why the two stomach measurements? Because I am not sure which is right. The relevant wedsites say a "vertical fold" one inch from the navel. Does this mean the fat fold itself should be vertical when pinched or that the fingers pinching should be in a vertical plane. Anyone know? I know I am overthinking this, and I assume its the former, but than you are pinching AGAINST the natural fat direction. Well, I hope it is the former cuz that is the smaller measurement and my BF% would go down.

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Monday: Shitty, shitty workout. Although I was well rested and expected some serious strength gains, none came. I really haven???t gotten noticeably stronger on chest or bis during this cycle. Slightly, perhaps, though its tough to tell on EDT. (Cue Rob for the overtraining, or not enough cals, comments). Actually what I think it is is that I have recently busted through all my PBs and so I am at a strength ???wall??? so to speak. So for the this workout I stopped with singles and went lighter and for reps. I think I???ll do that for all workouts this week and perhaps next and focus on size improvements and not stress over strength. The proof will be in the pics, and not the numbers.

(paragraph break for Rob) Also, I am thinking that singles are perhaps not the best training method for a PH cycle. Just a subjective thought based on how I feel. The PHs help get mind-blowing pumps (which make you *feel* like you are growing, that the protein is making its way into the muscle, etc???.). Singles don???t maximize this.

Anyway, I did a bunch of flat barbell sets instead of singles. Best was 315 x 8. Maybe next week I???ll try to get 10 or 12, which would be pretty sweet.

Tuesday: Same deal with legs, didn???t do singles. Instead I did some very light leg presses, did ???em rather slow. Really not feeling *good* about the gym today. Perhaps it???s the weather, or that my partner bailed again, or that it was legs. But my final 20 min zone was nice doing extensions with 8 plates. Got many stares, and did 8 sets of 6 reps, my legs were pumped. That was split with curls which went nicely as well. I did 8 sets of 4 with 115, which is heavy with the machine in my gym.

I have been thinking a lot about post cycle recovery and my 6 week CKD/HST cut. On HST I am going to do 2 sets per exercise with 2 weeks each of 12/8/5 reps. So I think my two weeks post cycle I am going to do the following:

Monday: Chest, Back, Arms
Tuesday: Legs, Shoulders

I am going to do rested 1 rep maxs to see where my strength lies. I???ll also continue application of the 1T, 4-diol for those 2 days, recall that this is actually a 30 day cycle. After I get my 1 RM then I will do a few sets per exercise working for a pump.

Wed and Thursday with be off. Friday with be my HST routine but will do only 1 set per, and go for 15 reps. I???ll so the same thing the following MWF and then start my cut on Saturday. My first keto week will be Sat ??? Thursday and I???ll carb up on Friday and Saturday. Next week will be Sun-Friday with Carb up on Saturday and Sunday. Then I???ll be on the M-F no carbs and weekend carb ups. You see, the first F/Sat I???ll be at the Arnold Classic, so that is the reason for the rejiggering. That???s the plan. Oh, I???ll be taking in around 2300 cals while in ketosis (spread over 4 meals and post-bedtime snack), and not counting cals when carbing up.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by Britney
I hear you on the "can't wait to cut." I have this inner demon screaming "Get on the treadmill" inside me.

Well, nothing has EVER screamed that from inside me, but I do want to start cut cals!

 

[Robboe]

Originally posted by Twin Peak
So why the two stomach measurements? Because I am not sure which is right. The relevant wedsites say a "vertical fold" one inch from the navel. Does this mean the fat fold itself should be vertical when pinched or that the fingers pinching should be in a vertical plane. Anyone know? I know I am overthinking this, and I assume its the former, but than you are pinching AGAINST the natural fat direction. Well, I hope it is the former cuz that is the smaller measurement and my BF% would go down.

It's a pinch so that the fat is vertical, like if you were squeezing a NYC hooker's nipples. Your skin/fat would look a bit like an 'I'.

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Monday: Shitty, shitty workout. Although I was well rested and expected some serious strength gains, none came. I really haven???t gotten noticeably stronger on chest or bis during this cycle. Slightly, perhaps, though its tough to tell on EDT. (Cue Rob for the overtraining, or not enough cals, comments). Actually what I think it is is that I have recently busted through all my PBs and so I am at a strength ???wall??? so to speak. So for the this workout I stopped with singles and went lighter and for reps. I think I???ll do that for all workouts this week and perhaps next and focus on size improvements and not stress over strength. The proof will be in the pics, and not the numbers.

(paragraph break for Rob)

How considerate!

What are your opinions on EDT so far?

I was a bit skeptical when i first read about it, about what it was actually supposed to do, but wanted to see the results before i commented.

End of the day, you're strong as a Bull as it is, so i can't exactly attack it. Have you ever tried cycling your volume? I know you like your high(ish) volume workouts, but why not do a week every three where you just half all your work sets and maybe drop an exericse from the routine?

Like micro/macroloading.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by The_Chicken_Daddy
How considerate!

What are your opinions on EDT so far?

I was a bit skeptical when i first read about it, about what it was actually supposed to do, but wanted to see the results before i commented.

End of the day, you're strong as a Bull as it is, so i can't exactly attack it. Have you ever tried cycling your volume? I know you like your high(ish) volume workouts, but why not do a week every three where you just half all your work sets and maybe drop an exericse from the routine?

Like micro/macroloading.

EDT. I like it. I wouldn't do it all the time, but I'll definitely be doing some EDT-like cycles throughout the year. Positives:

- semi-cardio like, getting between 12-16 sets in 20 minutes
- heavy weights, but less joint strain, since you don't go to failure most of the time
- kicks your ass, felt like puking many times.
- trains 2 bodyparts in 45-50, after warmup

Results:

- gained significant strength, and broke through personal bests, and all while POST-ph cycle and reduced cals.
- gained noticeable muscle, although POST-ph cycle and reduced cals.

My current version of EDT is longer and higher volume to account for the PH/PS use. I am not sure I like it as much. All the single work is very taxing to the body and CNS. Growth is coming, although strength isn't, but I'd attribute the growth to the 1T rather than EDT.

Bottom line, I think you should try it.

Now, Rob, what were your concerns, reservations?

As to my training volume, first, I don't think it is high generally speaking. Its certainly high when on cycle, but normally I get between 8-10 working sets per BP. I think on the general scale of how people train, that's actually on the low side. You are just on the VERY FRIGGIN low side.

But anyway, I do cycle volume, or intensity. I am not always trying to push max weights or train to failure, and I do believe in taking extra time off, as well. But no I don't have an exact science like taking a low volume week once per month. Anyway, I am on to HST soon. Which I have SEVER doubts about. But I am curious, and one cycle can't hurt me. And if it is as good an revolutionary as the founders say, well then I should gain 10 pounds of LBM even though I am dieting, right?

 

[Twin Peak]

Oh, Rob, and thanks for the fat pinch advice. It was the NYC hooker vision that cleared it up.

Well, my BF is lower than, better go figure it out!

 

[Robboe]

Yep, when it doubt, make an analogy with a NYC hooker. Always works.

Anyhoo, i was referring to your current volume with the PH. I still don't buy into the requirements for more volume myself, but hey, that's just me.

Now what's this about keto? You had success in the past with it? And why jump straight into it? Why not jst lower cals and keep carbs in the fray, and then when you need a change, reduce carbs more and start doing some sort of carb loads twice a week. Then, for another change, go keto.

Just in case you want to reserve any 'wild cards' for your dieting.

Like when you pull out cardio and maybe EC after several weeks of cutting.

 

[Twin Peak]

Ah I see what you are saying regarding volume. In essense, that is what I did, de facto, last time. It worked so yeah, maybe I'll just build that it.

Whats this about keto? You haven't been reading very carefully Rob. For shame.

I am going to take two weeks "off" post cycle. Then I will do a 6 week mini cut, where I hope to shed 10 pounds of fat. Then I'll take 2 more weeks "off" (i.e. eat at maint.).

I decided to do the 6 week cut on a CKD like the one Lyle did in his Bodyopus journal.

Why? Well, cuz I'm curious for one. This'll be my first time. And since I am curious, I am motivated. Also, I want to see if it works for me. If it does my "full blown cut" will be CKD, if not, I'll do my own version of cycling carbs that I have used successfully since 96, and several members here have tried it. After the 6 week CKD I'll decide whether I am going to do a July show or wait until the fall, or next year. If I can compete in the 190s, I'll go for July me thinks.

 

[butterfly]

I wish I knew as much as you do and was able to experiment.

 

[Twin Peak]

Originally posted by butterfly
I wish I knew as much as you do and was able to experiment.

Thanks for the compliment. On the grand scale of things my knowledge is very limited.

And yours is growing. Of course you can experiment. You need to, to find out what works best for you whether that be nutrition, training, etc.

You have recently learned some things about how you respond to some things nutritionally correct? All you need to do is read a bit, and try new programs/plans that are interesting to you and "make sense." Then read everything you can about it. Then try it.

 

[butterfly]

That's true...

I've noticed that I can if I stay on the same diet we came up with, I loose fat and I can still maintain my weight when adding back breads and dairy.

I just got the new issue of Muscle & Fitness Hers... I'll be sure to read it for ideas!

 

[Miss LeDix]

HI TP! Just wanted to lurk on over here and say hi. Hope you are doing great!

 

[Twin Peak]

Hey sis, glad to see you are still around, even if once and a while. How are things by you?

 

[dvlmn666]

Hey ya freak!!

lmao j/k how are things with ya? Looks like your making some sweet gains. You going to take pix mid cycle?