Tren A Night Sweats

[bjg]

That is a rediculous statement. Care to back that up with any factual point?

this to reply to bigbenj who sent me a message stating that i am a little girl, where the fact is that without his tren he will turn into a little girl.. and yes tren is in reality for cows perhaps bigbenj wants to grow some horns?

 

[GarlicChicken]

this to reply to bigbenj who sent me a message stating that i am a little girl, where the fact is that without his tren he will turn into a little girl.. and yes tren is in reality for cows perhaps bigbenj wants to grow some horns?

EQ is for horses and dogs. Cheque drops are for dogs. Hell, test prop is made in implants for cows. I have to ask, what is the underlying reason for your tyrade against trenbolone?

 

[bjg]

i am not against tren ....it is just as i showed serious medical research on tren proving that tren can cause genetic chromosomal damage on user and offsprings + cysts on liver and internal organs..then many in this thread jumped on my ass and started sending me insults, all i was doing was showing some medical results that should be taken into consideration and i should be thanked for that, however it seems that many take it personally .....did i spoil their hopes? well if i did too bad they should start thinking of working out instead of wasting their times on getting high on tren.

 

[bigbenj]

Yeah, all you did was provide studies...didn't act self-righteous. Didn't act like you're better than anyone...

You're a joke. You're a pathetic little natty bitch. You're scared of needles, it's that simple. I guarantee you'd juice, but you're too much of a pussy to pin yourself.

What are you even doing in the anabolic section? I think you accidently stumbled upon this site while trying to find Jenny Craig, you skinny fat weakling.

LOL @ you thinking people take tren so they don't have to workout. Typical natty-bitch talk.

 

[bjg]

Yeah, all you did was provide studies...didn't act self-righteous. Didn't act like you're better than anyone...

You're a joke. You're a pathetic little natty bitch. You're scared of needles, it's that simple. I guarantee you'd juice, but you're too much of a pussy to pin yourself.

What are you even doing in the anabolic section? I think you accidently stumbled upon this site while trying to find Jenny Craig, you skinny fat weakling.

LOL @ you thinking people take tren so they don't have to workout. Typical natty-bitch talk.

when i worked out and lifted weights you were not even born...skinny fat weakling? if i was maybe i would consider AAS like you ...

 

[bigbenj]

So you don't even lift?

Get the fuck out!

 

[KILLEROFSAINTS]

when i worked out and lifted weights you were not even born...skinny fat weakling? If i was maybe i would consider aas like you ...

why are you here?

 

[adwal99]

bjg go fuck yourself because like i said before, no one cares what you have to say.. if everyone is talking shit to you can't u get the point? keep AAS talk out ur fucking mouth!!

 

[.V.]

I personally start noticing the sides about a day after the first shot. That's when they START. They get progressively worse until they level after about 8 days. I've been on ace since Monday and today I had my first blow up on a guy.

Hmmmm... day 5 and nothing. But then sides were minimal on 400/week for 15 weeks on tren e.

Perhaps tren a will be just as kind?

 

[.V.]

well getting plastic tits is pretty stupid too
serious medical research and i mean academic medical research not some company selling products has confirmed that side effects of tren include cysts on internal organs (study on cows) , genetic chromosomal damage and offsprings with genetic damages . i have posted some in another thread.
If that does not turn you off then what does????

Thank you. I'll be sure not to have any more children or get plastic tits.

The risks? I'm sure everyone has his own reason for taking them and that's completely up to them, just like not using it is up to you.

I was unaware of the chromosomal damage and possible genetic injury to offspring. Since both of my children are already conceived, born, and half grown I'll not worry though. I'll soon turn 43 and there will be no more conceptions in my house. But still, I'm intrigued and will do more reading about this.

RE: health risks to myself? Life is an STD that is 100% fatal 100% of the time. Or at least I've never heard of anyone getting out of it alive. Live it to the fullest and love every minute of it ... for tomorrow we may die. And if that means being bigger so that the pallbearers have to work harder...then go for it.

 

[rss500]

genetic chromosomal damage on user and offsprings while doing tren?

I would like to read about this? Have there been any BB or male AAS users, that came forward and said yes, my newborn looks this way because of TREn? I would be more worried about injecting Tren if I read some more conclusive data on this fact? But maybe it's out there and I haven't looked hard enough?



Starting some pharmaceutical tren on march 1st. should be able to tell the difference from the biogen shit that I took in the past? Prob. take around 300 to 400mg. for this cycle.

TRENBOLONE TRENBOLONE

 

[heckler7]

And please someone can explain to me ..WHY for god's sake u are obcessed so much by getting bigger that you don't give a shit about your health? I am not being an ASS but i just cannot understand it

do you harp on lesbos injecting test telling them how bad it is for them? Or old guys on TRT?

 

[Grozny]

What causes these? Why are they so much more intense then other compounds? Got horrible tren cough yesterday when I mixed it with Test and HCG. Too many air bubbles i think.

If this happens most people believe there injects are contaminated with bacteria. That is of course a possibility but it can also have a pyrogen (endotoxin) inside.

But sometimes the body releases a (endogeneous) pyrogen. An allergic reaction is also possible just like a allergic reaction on one of the solvents, perservatives and..acids or estrifications.



The Danish student Michael Timm did some research on pyrogens "in vitro" on AA steroids, we will cover it with an article. Especially prone to pyrogen release are Nor-19 steroids such as Boldenone and Nandrolone and then especially the short estrifications.

Studies on steroid fever II. Pyrogenic and anti-pyrogenic activity in vitro of some endogenous steroids of man
G. M. Dillard and Phyllis Bodel Department of Internal Medicine, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut 06510 Published December, 1970

The pyrogenic properties of some C-19 and C-21 steroids were examined by in vitro incubation of human blood leukocytes with serum-buffer solutions of the steroids and injection of the 18-hr supernatants into rabbits. In previous studies this method demonstrated release of leukocyte endogenous pyrogen by etiocholanolone. With two exceptions, steroids known to cause fever in man, such as 11β-OH etiocholanolone and 3α-hydroxy-5β-pregnane-20-one were also pyrogenic in vitro. All steroids tested which are nonpyrogenic in man, such as androsterone, 3β-OH etiocholanolone, and 3α, 17α-dihydroxy-5β-pregnan-20-one were also nonpyrogenic in vitro. Solubility in aqueous solution did not correlate with pyrogenic capacity.
Inhibition of pyrogen release from human leukocytes in vitro by hydrocortisone and estradiol was demonstrated. Hydrocortisone-treated leukocytes released less pyrogen than did normal leukocytes when stimulated either by etiocholanolone or by phagocytosis of heat-killed staphylococci. On the other hand, estradiol-treated blood leukocytes and mononuclear cells showed significant suppression of pyrogen release when phagocytosis, but not etiocholanolone, was used as the stimulus. When blood cells were incubated with progesterone, greater than normal amounts of pyrogen were released following phagocytosis, and the inhibiting effect of estradiol could be partially reversed. Neither estradiol nor hydrocortisone appeared to act on rabbit leukocytes.

These studies indicate that a variety of naturally-occurring steroids may alter pyrogen release from leukocytes. Alterations in steroid balance in man may influence normal temperature regulation and contribute to clinical fevers.

 

[bigreddave]

I could hold wood last night that must be one of the effects I was warned about, but hey atleast im getting big lol

 

[bjg]

So you don't even lift?

Get the fuck out!

what i meant is that i don't need fucking AAS not only because they are not healthy , but because i don't need them to get bigger...i do it by training hard ... because i am 50 and still lift as good and as hard as ever and that is way beyond what you will ever achieve. You don't come close and with all your AAS you WILL never come close to what i am now and even to what i will be at 70 ..it is called genetics and hard work. my training partner actually is a heavy AAS user heavier than me, maybe 25 years old with 21 inch arms , i'll let him talk to you anytime ..he cannot keep up with me ..no way ...so you fuck off because you don't know what you are talking about just go get high on your tren and call your mom to wipe your tears when you come out of it.
But you and adwal99 without your AAS you will both slowly turn into a little girlies

 

[bjg]

genetic chromosomal damage on user and offsprings while doing tren?

I would like to read about this? Have there been any BB or male AAS users, that came forward and said yes, my newborn looks this way because of TREn? I would be more worried about injecting Tren if I read some more conclusive data on this fact? But maybe it's out there and I haven't looked hard enough?



Starting some pharmaceutical tren on march 1st. should be able to tell the difference from the biogen shit that I took in the past? Prob. take around 300 to 400mg. for this cycle.

TRENBOLONE TRENBOLONE

such studies cannot be done on humans obviously, however, it was done on cows and rats and the results were conclusive: cysts chromosomal damage to both users and offsprings. I would not fuck with it if i were you...,i would use some other steroid if u have to do it .
But as you know with steroids it all depends on the dosage, the time and of course on the individual some get the bad effects much quicker than others, there are even some that go on unaffected for a very long time.
some athletes (AAS users) die before 40 and some die at 70 and 80, and many of them you could not DIRECTLY link their death to steroids but it is always indirectly linked ( but if you cannot prove that it is not directly linked it does not prove the opposite that it is not linked, maybe it is... you just could not prove it, since it is very hard medically to do it after someone dies especially from reasons like a heart attack...it is not simple as you think).

 

[adwal99]

bjg u sound like a dick riding faggot who loves cock

 

[MovinWeight]

If this happens most people believe there injects are contaminated with bacteria. That is of course a possibility but it can also have a pyrogen (endotoxin) inside.

But sometimes the body releases a (endogeneous) pyrogen. An allergic reaction is also possible just like a allergic reaction on one of the solvents, perservatives and..acids or estrifications.



The Danish student Michael Timm did some research on pyrogens "in vitro" on AA steroids, we will cover it with an article. Especially prone to pyrogen release are Nor-19 steroids such as Boldenone and Nandrolone and then especially the short estrifications.

Studies on steroid fever II. Pyrogenic and anti-pyrogenic activity in vitro of some endogenous steroids of man
G. M. Dillard and Phyllis Bodel Department of Internal Medicine, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut 06510 Published December, 1970

The pyrogenic properties of some C-19 and C-21 steroids were examined by in vitro incubation of human blood leukocytes with serum-buffer solutions of the steroids and injection of the 18-hr supernatants into rabbits. In previous studies this method demonstrated release of leukocyte endogenous pyrogen by etiocholanolone. With two exceptions, steroids known to cause fever in man, such as 11β-OH etiocholanolone and 3α-hydroxy-5β-pregnane-20-one were also pyrogenic in vitro. All steroids tested which are nonpyrogenic in man, such as androsterone, 3β-OH etiocholanolone, and 3α, 17α-dihydroxy-5β-pregnan-20-one were also nonpyrogenic in vitro. Solubility in aqueous solution did not correlate with pyrogenic capacity.
Inhibition of pyrogen release from human leukocytes in vitro by hydrocortisone and estradiol was demonstrated. Hydrocortisone-treated leukocytes released less pyrogen than did normal leukocytes when stimulated either by etiocholanolone or by phagocytosis of heat-killed staphylococci. On the other hand, estradiol-treated blood leukocytes and mononuclear cells showed significant suppression of pyrogen release when phagocytosis, but not etiocholanolone, was used as the stimulus. When blood cells were incubated with progesterone, greater than normal amounts of pyrogen were released following phagocytosis, and the inhibiting effect of estradiol could be partially reversed. Neither estradiol nor hydrocortisone appeared to act on rabbit leukocytes.

These studies indicate that a variety of naturally-occurring steroids may alter pyrogen release from leukocytes. Alterations in steroid balance in man may influence normal temperature regulation and contribute to clinical fevers.

Good info and I'll take it in mind. I'm very cautious with my injections and believe my source is the same. I heard it can just be a reaction based on what the suspension is made out of.

 

[redz]

Seriously NJG you don`t know anything about steroids, their uses or how they affect the body. They are very affective and TRT is something you should be on but are too naive to open your eyes and give something like that a shot because you are blinded by miss-information and bs studies that are twisted and miss-construed. I base my information off of real life experience and the experience of other users I have interacted with some of which have been using for over 30 years.

 

[bjg]

Seriously NJG you don`t know anything about steroids, their uses or how they affect the body. They are very affective and TRT is something you should be on but are too naive to open your eyes and give something like that a shot because you are blinded by miss-information and bs studies that are twisted and miss-construed. I base my information off of real life experience and the experience of other users I have interacted with some of which have been using for over 30 years.

well i don't know about your real life experience and how much info you accumulated during your life experience , but iam not young (50) and ive been in the gym for more than 35 years.. have worked out and know many pros..
let me tell you something from MY EXPERIENCE: very few made it without being healthwise screwed and some are very young (below 30)... and most who were ok had to stop AAS all together and look like shit because of that and many of them restart using AAS because they cannot maintain any of their shape without it.
let me also clarify that many if not most will not admit any health problems due to steroids and will lie about it.
Anyways go look at this forum and see how many have already problems from using AAS.
And frankly one of the reasons i don't even try a cycle (one cycle is not gonna hurt right?) is because those PCT crap you take and think that it is going to protect you..are themselves more harmful than the steroids..companies promote these things to make money that's all, they are the main source of misinformation so are many sites on the internet......doctors and friends and parents tell you to avoid these things to protect you period.

 

[redz]

So you think TRT is harmful?

 

[bigbenj]

well i don't know about your real life experience and how much info you accumulated during your life experience , but iam not young (50) and ive been in the gym for more than 35 years.. have worked out and know many pros..
let me tell you something from MY EXPERIENCE: very few made it without being healthwise screwed and some are very young (below 30)... and most who were ok had to stop AAS all together and look like shit because of that and many of them restart using AAS because they cannot maintain any of their shape without it.
let me also clarify that many if not most will not admit any health problems due to steroids and will lie about it.
Anyways go look at this forum and see how many have already problems from using AAS.
And frankly one of the reasons i don't even try a cycle (one cycle is not gonna hurt right?) is because those PCT crap you take and think that it is going to protect you..are themselves more harmful than the steroids..companies promote these things to make money that's all, they are the main source of misinformation so are many sites on the internet......doctors and friends and parents tell you to avoid these things to protect you period.

for every one person you show me who has medical issues from gear, I'll show you 100 who dont.

...and Im still waiting on this glorious picture of you, Mr. Olympia.

 

[bjg]

TRT is prescribed by doctors for certain patients at an older age and for specific health problems..they are prescribed with a clinical dose and not for the purpose of recreation and for fun and for bodybuilding.....
side effects in therapy cases must be outweighed by the benefits..it is not the case for a healthy person...otherwise you see all the doctors going on TRT since it is that great....

 

[bjg]

for every one person you show me who has medical issues from gear, I'll show you 100 who dont.

...and Im still waiting on this glorious picture of you, Mr. Olympia.

As i said most will not admit any health problems and don't even admit using steroids all together.
I don't have time for you posting my picture..actually i dont have a pic that is ready.. when i have time i'll post it ''i am no teenager taking my picture everyday.....

 

[redz]

I have helped many people get on TRT virtually all men over 50 will qualify for it after a simple blood test. It is becoming more and more common.

 

[johnniejr243]

what i meant is that i don't need fucking AAS not only because they are not healthy , but because i don't need them to get bigger...i do it by training hard ... because i am 50 and still lift as good and as hard as ever and that is way beyond what you will ever achieve. You don't come close and with all your AAS you WILL never come close to what i am now and even to what i will be at 70 ..it is called genetics and hard work. my training partner actually is a heavy AAS user heavier than me, maybe 25 years old with 21 inch arms , i'll let him talk to you anytime ..he cannot keep up with me ..no way ...so you fuck off because you don't know what you are talking about just go get high on your tren and call your mom to wipe your tears when you come out of it.
But you and adwal99 without your AAS you will both slowly turn into a little girlies

So you said you don't use aas but on line 6 you say your partner is a heavy user, heavier than you.

 

[bjg]

I have helped many people get on TRT virtually all men over 50 will qualify for it after a simple blood test. It is becoming more and more common.

it is a choice and a risk at the same time...doctors use it sometimes to make their patients happy....but think about this. what if one day you had to stop TRT for a reason or another (many reasons could come up) then all what you have saved for years will deteriorate at a quicker pace, years will catch up with you quickly and this is not a good feeling.....you cannot cheat nature..what you postpone by medicine will come back at a quick rate once you stop medicine.
Also your body is meant to age all together in equilibrium , ...TRT if not done properly will disrupt this equilibrium since it boosts one aspect of your body.

 

[bjg]

So you said you don't use aas but on line 6 you say your partner is a heavy user, heavier than you.

i meant heavier than me in body weight, in fact he is 5'11 around 210lbs whereas i am around 5'6 and 175 lbs

 

[redz]

TRT drastically improves quality of life for many people, if you want to get weak and have no labido as you age feel free. I will be on TRT when the time comes. Also for the record prior to this cycle I was off for 2 years.

 

[XYZ]

Stop with the name calling and child's play, fuc*ing stupid. We don't need to hand out warnings or infractions so take it to Anything Goes or play nice, thank you.