one last post from me since i am serious on this topic.
otherwise this shit is getting ridiculous. ill even apologize for calling anyone little, except for p funk.
my research? in the gym. i workout in san diego, california. i workout at the 24 hour fitness gyms. ive spent lots of time working out at the point loma, pacific beach, rancho san diego, mision valley, balboa, and even the gay ass hillcrest location. ive seen a lot of people come and go, and also those faces that stick around for years.
in my first few years of working out, i noticed everyone and their momma did pressdowns for triceps and pretty much only press downs. i would see guys use a straight bar then a rope then a one handled reverse cable motion. and guess what. no one seemed to have the tricep long head development. lateral head yes, nothing in the long head department. the few guys who had these big ass horseshoes that i was after, didnt seem to do all the pressdowns. and upon me starting to ask these guys who had acheived what i wanted to achive, i started learning what exercises a lot of them had in common.
and it wasnt press downs.
so, armed with my idea that when you make the muscle longer, (you are pushing the insertion point farther away from the origin point as you raise your arm in regards to long head of the tricep only) it can contract a little bit harder, taxing the muscle fibers even more.
so i never did press downs. it was skulls and overhead dumbell presses.
end result: i train triceps totally differently than most people, and my triceps ended up looking totally different than most poeple. i specifically tried to emphasize the long head, and it worked.
you can say i just happen to have good tricep long head genetics, but i dont buy it.
so thats my opinion, one i sweated through, go ahead and keep yelling 'Science!' at me, but i dont care. how many studies have you personally done? none.
were you there to witness all these studies you keep reffering to? didnt think so.
what im trying to say, is yes, i have read all this stuff that says muscles fire one way, on or off. i have read a lot of other stuff too. i took what i knew and applied it with my own ideas as well. this is my experience. you trying to tell me it didnt happen?
so where is your experience. not a study you read, what did YOU do that worked. show me what you did. show me the results. that is the kind of info im here for. i can read books all day. i have another anatomy course at school this quarter. i dont need you to tell me muscle action and insertions. i like to hear the variations people put on things that seem to work for them. i dont always agree with it, but dam. you mother lovers are on the attack here something serious.
otherwise this shit is getting ridiculous. ill even apologize for calling anyone little, except for p funk.
my research? in the gym. i workout in san diego, california. i workout at the 24 hour fitness gyms. ive spent lots of time working out at the point loma, pacific beach, rancho san diego, mision valley, balboa, and even the gay ass hillcrest location. ive seen a lot of people come and go, and also those faces that stick around for years.
in my first few years of working out, i noticed everyone and their momma did pressdowns for triceps and pretty much only press downs. i would see guys use a straight bar then a rope then a one handled reverse cable motion. and guess what. no one seemed to have the tricep long head development. lateral head yes, nothing in the long head department. the few guys who had these big ass horseshoes that i was after, didnt seem to do all the pressdowns. and upon me starting to ask these guys who had acheived what i wanted to achive, i started learning what exercises a lot of them had in common.
and it wasnt press downs.
so, armed with my idea that when you make the muscle longer, (you are pushing the insertion point farther away from the origin point as you raise your arm in regards to long head of the tricep only) it can contract a little bit harder, taxing the muscle fibers even more.
so i never did press downs. it was skulls and overhead dumbell presses.
end result: i train triceps totally differently than most people, and my triceps ended up looking totally different than most poeple. i specifically tried to emphasize the long head, and it worked.
you can say i just happen to have good tricep long head genetics, but i dont buy it.
so thats my opinion, one i sweated through, go ahead and keep yelling 'Science!' at me, but i dont care. how many studies have you personally done? none.
were you there to witness all these studies you keep reffering to? didnt think so.
what im trying to say, is yes, i have read all this stuff that says muscles fire one way, on or off. i have read a lot of other stuff too. i took what i knew and applied it with my own ideas as well. this is my experience. you trying to tell me it didnt happen?
so where is your experience. not a study you read, what did YOU do that worked. show me what you did. show me the results. that is the kind of info im here for. i can read books all day. i have another anatomy course at school this quarter. i dont need you to tell me muscle action and insertions. i like to hear the variations people put on things that seem to work for them. i dont always agree with it, but dam. you mother lovers are on the attack here something serious.
BUT! somebody forgot to tell the bee. They can hover, fly sideways, and backward, something few flying creatures can do. So it seems they do pretty good, for a bee that absolutely is not supposed to fly. So science stands red faced on this one, who knows how many other things science fails to prove??. 
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