Trying to plan out a new cycle

[cregg22]

Hey guys was just wondering what your thoughts on this cycle was? If i should change any doses or add or remove any of the products. Looking to gain some lean size I'm sitting at 205 and am hoping to add another 20 pounds of lean muscle. Im going to try the lab Genetix i have heard a lot of good things about them and also the norvotrop Gh kits.

week 1-4
sustanon 700mg a week
npp 300mg a week
eq 600mg a week
superdrol 30mg a day
test suspension 50mg a day site inject

week 5-12
sustanon 1000mg a week
eq 800mg a week
proviron 75mg a day
anavar 50mg a day

4 iu of Gh in the mornings 6 days a week week 1-12

 

[PTPT]

I know people who bump up the doses but during a 12 week cycle I perfer to keep them the same. You have to many orals in there and 12 week of hgh won't really do anything. I would run it 20 weeks minimum. Also test is test, really no point throwing in the suspension when Sust already gas some fast acting esters in it. Lastly, i would run some armidex with that cycle.

 

[UberJedi]

Unless the suspension is your pre-workout. Then fuck it why not. I agree with the GH advice. That's one of those things. I would rather save my money for gear.

 

[the_predator]

Two things...first you aren't going to see anything with the GH at that time and you would just be wasting money if you did run it for only 12 weeks. You need to run GH at a 6 month minimum, and I mean that's the minimum. The other thing is you aren't going to see much results from the eq at 12 weeks either. Most guys will tell you the magic is at 16 weeks but I would run it for 20 weeks.

 

[SoCalSwole]

Looks a little short for EQ, and I would also drop the test suspension, you don't need it. All it will do is fuck with your levels and give you sides. If you want it for preworkout I would run Dbol the first 4-6 weeks. If it's quality stuff you won't need much more than that for pre workout.

I have not run GH but I have heard both sides of the fence arguing the length of the cycle on GH. For me the cost/reward ratio is way off on GH. If money is not a problem for you then go for it.

 

[cregg22]

I forgot to say i have already been running the Gh for the past 5 months on my off cycle. I am planning on doing the Test suspension for pre workout for the body part i am working out that day bilateral site inject. Whats your thoughts on that? Maybe extend my cycle to 16 weeks then if I am going to use eq then?

 

[SoCalSwole]

I like EQ for longer cycles it seems to start getting good right around week 8 or 9 so why go off 3 weeks later when it finally starts cranking? Watch red blood cell count though it will get high.

I don't buy into that site injection deal. It still has to be metabolized and distributed into your blood. But give it a whirl. Also everytime we stick ourselves we take a risk of infection or hitting a nerve. You start pinning calves and biceps your asking for pain. Just my 2 cents.

 

[DaBeast25]

I love NPP and am getting ready for another Test/NPP run, but having it only the first 4 weeks of your cycle just seems kind of random. There are definitely more experienced guys on here that can talk to you, but IMO you're making this way too complex for a 12 weaker

 

[SoCalSwole]

I love NPP and am getting ready for another Test/NPP run, but having it only the first 4 weeks of your cycle just seems kind of random. There are definitely more experienced guys on here that can talk to you, but IMO you're making this way too complex for a 12 weaker

Yea thats true I did not notice that. It looks like the OP is trying to get some mass building in the first 4 weeks then a cut the rest of the way 4 weeks on NPP wont give you much other than some joint relief. If that's the direction it might be easier and more effective to split this into 2 cycles. Run the longer 12 week with NPP/EQ/Sust/ with the orals the first 6 weeks. Then do a 3-4 week bridge and run the Sust/EQ/Var 10 weeks with the proviron up front.

But now we are really over complicating things. What is the overall goal? I guess what we are saying is an oddly laid out cycle that creates a lot of questions. There are better ways of going about this depending on the goal.

 

[cregg22]

I am trying to keep this cycle shorter this time around. And do a longer one later in the year. What if i took the eq completely out of the cycle and just ran npp thru out then ?

 

[anabolic4life]

I've used npp numerous times and love it, but just my 2 cents, I would run it for 6+ weeks! I really started to love it week 3, and would not want to stop running it at week 4, but again that's how my body responds to it, other ppl may be different.

 

[Glycomann]

Seems like a smorgasbord and a lot of gear. but IDK.. maybe the gear is weak. Pharma grade you might need 1/2 that. Even home brew with good raws. Or I guess it could be that you have cycled hard and heavy for a while and need a good amount of gear to grow.

 

[DaBeast25]

I am trying to keep this cycle shorter this time around. And do a longer one later in the year. What if i took the eq completely out of the cycle and just ran npp thru out then ?

I don't think you'd be displeased with a Test/NPP cycle... toss an oral in if you like depending on your goals. With that said, 12 weeks is a long time to be pinning eod

 

[cregg22]

I just want to try and get as big as possible in a short amount of time thats why the big doses.