UG Gear Problems

[Mike Arnold]

FYI, there's no human grade steroids here.

Not true... one of the sponors here, PSL (Purity Source Labs), sells 3-4 different brands of pharm-grade gear for UG prices. I am using the Jelfa Sust. One thing I like about the partuicular amps it comes in is that they break very easily...unlike some amps which are a major pain in the ass.

 

[World-Pharma.org]

Not true... one of the sponors here, PSL (Purity Source Labs), sells 3-4 different brands of pharm-grade gear for UG prices. I am using the Jelfa Sust. One thing I like about the partuicular amps it comes in is that they break very easily...unlike some amps which are a major pain in the ass.

you forget world-pharma.org

but problem is a lot of guys dont even know what mean gmp,ugl,human gear,fda approved,who,etc... they all only see prices

 

[Mike Arnold]

^^^^^

Of course....and WP.

 

[World-Pharma.org]

^^^^^

of course....and wp.

thanks man..

 

[Grozny]

Okay so I placed my order from a highly recommended provider about a month ago. The Test-E was crystallized and the EQ was cloudy. I did lightly heat the Test-E to dissolve the ester back in the oil. It worked, but only temporary and both oils were extremely painful. I have a knot in each cheek. I know UG is a bit different, but it cant be this bad can it??

I've been out of the game for about 8 years and figured I would test out some UG gear first, but damn this makes me want to spend the extra bucks and go back to human grade.

can u post some pict bro i would like to see those crystals

 

[OTG85]

Just shake the shit out of that shitty cloudy gear draw shoot and massage.Gich

 

[Digitalash]

gear without EO thats cloudy could be alot of things, not all of them necessarily bad for you. I have heard of filters melting with EO, but I know that sometimes if the vials are autoclaved and not fully dried afterwards from the steam that tiny bit of water will make the gear look cloudy. You can experiment if you have some gear you dont want to use or just oil/ba/bb with no hormone. Put a drop of water in the vial and then shake it up really well. It'll turn from tiny suspended droplets into a fog through the whole vial. As long as its been through a .22 filter that water is sterile and safe. Now you don't really know though, I had the luxury of knowing exactly why my gear was cloudy after being bottled. Yours could be anything, I would ask your source what it is exactly and also you should get a replacement of course. You could buy syringe filters and refilter it into a new presterilized vial also, if you buy them get at least a few because they're cheap and it'll save you shipping costs in the long run. They can be very handy to have on hand in case you're ever in doubt

 

[independent]

Just use gmp fda approved gear like world pharma sells and you will never have a problem.

 

[ErikGearhead]

A lot of higher concentration gear is going to have high amounts of PIP.
Stick to ug gear that is within the standard range of dosage/mL and you will find a lot less PIP. If you get nasty knots like you're getting now on dosages like those, you should look to change brands.

such as:
test e/c 250mg/mL
tren e/mast E- 200mg/ml
test p/tren a/mast p/npp - 100mg/mL
deca 250-300mg/mL

 

[Supervette101]

Wow those aren't too bad of prices for bulk pharma grade test. But how about getting it thru customs? Nothing worse then placing an order and it taking months and then getting seized. But I am interested.

 

[rongli]

can u post some pict bro i would like to see those crystals

Excuse the long delay, but here is a pic:

I will say the source fixed the problem.

 

[Grozny]

Excuse the long delay, but here is a pic:

I will say the source fixed the problem.

definitively u need to change a source.

 

[World-Pharma.org]

didnt see for long time so good quality gear..

 

[jay_steel]

how big are those? they look half full? the one on the right is just crashed, My buddies watson actually does this allot.

 

[HFO3]

Crashed gear results in crystal like shards left in the bottom. More than likely when its cloudy it's dirty and or unfiltered but how can you say 100% from a picture? I don't think you can.

I would get a new source and move on

 

[independent]

Excuse the long delay, but here is a pic:

I will say the source fixed the problem.

I would uncap the vial and make those crystals into a necklace for the old lady.

 

[jay_steel]

Crashed gear results in crystal like shards left in the bottom. More than likely when its cloudy it's dirty and or unfiltered but how can you say 100% from a picture? I don't think you can.

I would get a new source and move on

the one on the left was probably laying on its side... it looks crashed to me, the one on the right looks like my piss in the morning... depending on the source i would toss it. I get crashed gear from my source at times but that is because he made a tren e 225 that was more like 250. Way overdosed. Every thing came back smooth and there was no additional pip, gains were crazy and gear was clean. But crashed gear can also be from containments. It is all ways a good mind set to order filters and your own sterile bottles if you order UGL. Maybe i am just over protective.

 

[longworthb]

didnt see for long time so good quality gear..

Huh????

 

[Ironman2001]

didnt see for long time so good quality gear..

Were you temporarily blind?

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[lilgumby]

You guys are always busting in UGL and saying about the prices be cheap thats what u get . Just because some vendors OVER charge for their gear does not make it better PERIOD . Now there are some UGL that are junk , im not saying there isnt but IVE used HG gear and UGL gear, the UGL i use now is very cheap and extremely good AND has tested better than some HG with NO knots NO infections and AWESOME gains

Just my 2cc worth

 

[Grozny]

You guys are always busting in UGL and saying about the prices be cheap thats what u get . Just because some vendors OVER charge for their gear does not make it better PERIOD . Now there are some UGL that are junk , im not saying there isnt but IVE used HG gear and UGL gear, the UGL i use now is very cheap and extremely good AND has tested better than some HG with NO knots NO infections and AWESOME gains

Just my 2cc worth

Did u ask your self why its so cheap; cuz most of the all these UG labs buy from the beginning a cheap carrier oils, mostly veggie cooking oil from the supermarket, industrial grade solvents, co-solvents and cheap API's (raw powders). What u often don't realize is that u pay the price but this time with your health.

 

[lilgumby]

Did u ask your self why its so cheap; cuz most of the all these UG labs buy from the beginning a cheap carrier oils, mostly veggie cooking oil from the supermarket, industrial grade solvents, co-solvents and cheap API's (raw powders). What u often don't realize is that u pay the price but this time with your health.

What i do realize that a lot of vendors over price their stuff , Ive been around for a long time and ran a shit load of gear so i would say i realize more than most . Ive compared BOTH ugl and HG did you not read that ? Cheap powders doe NOT produce good test results period ,I hope YOU realize this . Carrier oils are fairly inexpensive anyhow so to say they are using veggie oil ect is bullshit . SOME ugl labs are crap i can name a few but once you find a good ugl that you trust you wont buy over priced shit anymore

 

[darkshadowlander]

What i do realize that a lot of vendors over price their stuff , Ive been around for a long time and ran a shit load of gear so i would say i realize more than most . Ive compared BOTH ugl and HG did you not read that ? Cheap powders doe NOT produce good test results period ,I hope YOU realize this . Carrier oils are fairly inexpensive anyhow so to say they are using veggie oil ect is bullshit . SOME ugl labs are crap i can name a few but once you find a good ugl that you trust you wont buy over priced shit anymore

Agreed.

 

[Grozny]

What i do realize that a lot of vendors over price their stuff , Ive been around for a long time and ran a shit load of gear so i would say i realize more than most . Ive compared BOTH ugl and HG did you not read that ? Cheap powders doe NOT produce good test results period ,I hope YOU realize this . Carrier oils are fairly inexpensive anyhow so to say they are using veggie oil ect is bullshit . SOME ugl labs are crap i can name a few but once you find a good ugl that you trust you wont buy over priced shit anymore

I think that u arent pretty well informed on aas chemistry, only a serious "pharma" laboratory, analyse each batch of their api s via HPLC or UV/VIS determination to see the quality/purity of the raw powders to avoid to be scammed with impure api's.

Again most of UG labs they dont have entrance to analyses, they purchase in most ot the case a low quality of powders 50-60%.

U said that "Carrier oils are fairly inexpensive" again u dont have any clue about a solvents, for your record try to buy a pharmaceutical carrier oil like a Ethyl Oelate with 98% purity, firstly u would need a license then a money cuz its cost as hell.

 

[lilgumby]

I think your a moron , who thinks more expensive is better . Just keep using your shit and ill use mine with a SHITLOAD of other people and doing just fine with UGL stuff .

I think that u arent pretty well informed on aas chemistry, only a serious "pharma" laboratory, analyse each batch of their api s via HPLC or UV/VIS determination to see the quality/purity of the raw powders to avoid to be scammed with impure api's.

Again most of UG labs they dont have entrance to analyses, they purchase in most ot the case a low quality of powders 50-60%.

U said that "Carrier oils are fairly inexpensive" again u dont have any clue about a solvents, for your record try to buy a pharmaceutical carrier oil like a Ethyl Oelate with 98% purity, firstly u would need a license then a money cuz its cost as hell.

 

[longworthb]

People pissing on ugl labs gets old. I've used a good amount of different ugls and almost all of which were damn good. Price isn't everything. There's sources that mark up ridiculously high to make more money. It's the name of the game

 

[Kwabby6]

Okay so I placed my order from a highly recommended provider about a month ago. The Test-E was crystallized and the EQ was cloudy. I did lightly heat the Test-E to dissolve the ester back in the oil. It worked, but only temporary and both oils were extremely painful. I have a knot in each cheek. I know UG is a bit different, but it cant be this bad can it??

I've been out of the game for about 8 years and figured I would test out some UG gear first, but damn this makes me want to spend the extra bucks and go back to human grade.

If you've been using pharma this whole time, why would you try UG? I use nothing but pharma now after two botched PCTs simply for the peace of mind (purity is an add on). If you're paying more for pharma than you are for UG, then you aren't looking hard enough....

 

[Grozny]

I think your a moron , who thinks more expensive is better . Just keep using your shit and ill use mine with a SHITLOAD of other people and doing just fine with UGL stuff .

Quite constructive response I think u dont have any clue about steroid market, anyway 90% of US UG domestic sources use those food oils or even worse industrial-grade liquids with low quality api's due to the US customs regulations. As u "know" the market in the US is special from most parts of the world, the generic domestic American market that is. Because the Law Enforcement is so unbelievable strict on PED's (performence enhancing drugs) in street slang steroids, roids or anabolics the brands and sellers fluctuate more often than in other parts of the world. The prices of the products went down and some labs want to be attractive to new potential buyers.