undecanoato testosterone vrs test enanthate

[alexvega]

HI GUYS

any can explain the difference between these two drugs
time ago i did a 12 / 8 / 16 weeks cycle using test enanthate with fantastic result
now i would like to run undecanoate test but the half life its more than test enanthate

what do you can say about it ?

any suggestion is welcome
thanks

 

[XYZ]

The difference is the ester attached to the hormone.

You'll need to pin more with the U and less with the E.

 

[alexvega]

The difference is the ester attached to the hormone.

You'll need to pin more with the U and less with the E.

are u telling me to U its works better than test ena?

its about my age im 41 years old.
thanks

 

[longworthb]

Test is test. The undeconate ester just has to be pinned less and will have less test per mg but not by much

 

[alexvega]

The difference is the ester attached to the hormone.

You'll need to pin more with the U and less with the E.

why did u say that ?

one ml / 250mg U test.
and the test enant = 1 ml / 250 mg

why should i pin more with U T?

 

[collinb]

Test Undec has a half life almost twice as long as enan.
You just pin less frequently, will probably have to run slightly longer, and it will actual build up to higher test levels in your body.
There is a compounding effect because teh half life is so long that if you pin 1-2 times per week as you would enanthate, you are actually putting more testosterone into your body and over time will gain higher test levels.

 

[XYZ]

why did u say that ?

one ml / 250mg U test.
and the test enant = 1 ml / 250 mg

why should i pin more with U T?

I said that because I was reading too fast and gave you an answer based off what I thought I read. The others are correct, the U will last longer than the E. Both are test so the half life of the U will be longer than that of the E.

Your choice on what to use.

 

[alexvega]

Test Undec has a half life almost twice as long as enan.
You just pin less frequently, will probably have to run slightly longer, and it will actual build up to higher test levels in your body.
There is a compounding effect because teh half life is so long that if you pin 1-2 times per week as you would enanthate, you are actually putting more testosterone into your body and over time will gain higher test levels.

thx alot for answer my Q! well now i have both test e and U test.but what do u recomend for start a 10 week cycle?

i think i just have test enanthate for 4 weeks !

 

[alexvega]

I said that because I was reading too fast and gave you an answer based off what I thought I read. The others are correct, the U will last longer than the E. Both are test so the half life of the U will be longer than that of the E.

Your choice on what to use.

Thanks bro !
well i?m thinking to start with test enan, but i just have 8 ampoule
so the doubt here is what to do with U test ? in this cycle.

peace!

 

[collinb]

If you have a small amount of test e, just alternate between the two each week. 1 shot e 1 shot U. Either that or run the E first and a week before your last pin with the test e, start pinning the U so that when you come off the e, the other ester has started to build up and you don't have a drop in test levels

 

[Mike Arnold]

If you have 4 weeks of test E and the rest is test U, start out with the test E for the first 2 weeks and then finish with it for the final 2 weeks. This will allow you to get your T levels up faster at the beginning of the cycle..and also allow you to begin PCT more quickly after your final injection. below is an example of a 10 week cycle, which you said you want to run.


Weeks 1-2: Test E.
Weeks 3-8: Test U.
Weeks 9-10: Test E.

 

[alexvega]

If you have a small amount of test e, just alternate between the two each week. 1 shot e 1 shot U. Either that or run the E first and a week before your last pin with the test e, start pinning the U so that when you come off the e, the other ester has started to build up and you don't have a drop in test levels

thx Bro for reply my doubt, i have read that test E have a half life 10.5 days, and the test U 16 days .

i got ur idea.
have you ever run test U anytime?
see ya

 

[alexvega]

If you have 4 weeks of test E and the rest is test U, start out with the test E for the first 2 weeks and then finish with it for the final 2 weeks. This will allow you to get your T levels up faster at the beginning of the cycle..and also allow you to begin PCT more quickly after your final injection. below is an example of a 10 week cycle, which you said you want to run.


Weeks 1-2: Test E.
Weeks 3-8: Test U.
Weeks 9-10: Test E.

Alright bro! good example . but the pct need be started one week before last pin of test sure?
tamoxifem could be taken in the 8 week?

i appreciate your time !

 

[Mike Arnold]

Alright bro! good example . but the pct need be started one week before last pin of test sure?
tamoxifem could be taken in the 8 week?

i appreciate your time !

No...PCT would begin about 12 days after your final pin of test E.

 

[Swfl]

It is truly frightening how many people are throwing around broscience like its actual science... Let me help you understand HALFLIFE of a product.

First Halflife does NOT mean how long it takes for it to totally clear your system, it means how long untill only 50% IS STILL AVAILABEL AND ACTIVE IN YOUR SYSTEM. So if Test U has a half life of 16 days and Test E has lets just say 11 days for the ease of math. It doesnt matter which you start with or end with its basically the same stuff 5 days longer on the active side but then again less potent with Test U.

250mg does not mean you get 250 mg of test you have to account for the ester weight which is 40-50mg per 100 mg this is a rough number, wasnt really trying to get into ammount of actual test your using but half life so let me get back to it.

Upon your last shot of test lets say U. Now lets assume you are injecting 2 ml for 500mg/wk if your plan is different adjust the math to suit your useage.
16 days after last shot you will have 250mg in blood
32 days after last shot you will have 125mg in blood
48 days after last shot you will have 62.5 mg in blood. This is about when you should start your PCT. As your body will keep your natural production shut down untill your levels are at or below normal production...
64 days after shot you will still have 31.25 mg in blood
80 days after shot you have 15.63 mg in your system
96 days after last shot you are down to 7.82mg and feel like total shit if you wait this long.

so for anyone to tell you to start 16 days after your shot is recommending that you throw your pct down the drain because you wont start responding until the end of your pct at that rate. most guys are doing PCT for 4-8 weeks. dont rush the PCT I did this exact thing on my first run of long esters I stopped taking shots and started PCT about 2 weeks later... finished up 5 weeks of pct feeling great and thought damn i'm great at this stuff then for the next 1.5 months had no sex drive, felt like shit and tired all the time.. had I waited i would have been golden but I listened to the common broscience and fucked myself... read up all you can on halflife and you'll see and understand what im saying.

 

[alexvega]

It is truly frightening how many people are throwing around broscience like its actual science... Let me help you understand HALFLIFE of a product.


48 days after last shot you will have 62.5 mg in blood. This is about when you should start your PCT. As your body will keep your natural production shut down untill your levels are at or below normal production...

so for anyone to tell you to start 16 days after your shot is recommending that you throw your pct down the drain because you wont start responding until the end of your pct at that rate. most guys are doing PCT for 4-8 weeks. dont rush the PCT I did this exact thing on my first run of long esters I stopped taking shots and started PCT about 2 weeks later... finished up 5 weeks of pct feeling great and thought damn i'm great at this stuff then for the next 1.5 months had no sex drive, felt like shit and tired all the time.. had I waited i would have been golden but I listened to the common broscience and fucked myself... read up all you can on halflife and you'll see and understand what im saying.

Thanks bro for explain here the pharmacokinetics!

but now that u are talking about PCT i would like to hear the rest of the people !

time ago i did a pct well a kind of pct( just take tamoxipheno) and i felt all those symtoms , fell really bad.
again thks alot for you reply.

 

[Swfl]

Hope it helped and good luck. Do your research and think. Asking questions here is a great way to get knowledge. just double check on other sites, really dig...before you jump into something.

 

[GeauxDATY]

IMHO Test-E is king.

 

[alexvega]

48 days after last shot you will have 62.5 mg in blood. This is about when you should start your PCT. As your body will keep your natural production shut down untill your levels are at or below normal production...
64 days after shot you will still have 31.25 mg in blood
80 days after shot you have 15.63 mg in your system
96 days after last shot you are down to 7.82mg and feel like total shit if you wait this long.

so for anyone to tell you to start 16 days after your shot is recommending that you throw your pct down the drain because you wont start responding until the end of your pct at that rate. most guys are doing PCT for 4-8 weeks. dont rush the PCT I did this exact thing on my first run of long esters I stopped taking shots and started PCT about 2 weeks later... finished up 5 weeks of pct feeling great and thought damn i'm great at this stuff then for the next 1.5 months had no sex drive, felt like shit and tired all the time.. had I waited i would have been golden but I listened to the common broscience and fucked myself... read up all you can on halflife and you'll see and understand what im saying.

When should i star PCT 48 days from the last shoot, or 15 days fron the las shoot???????????

 

[Swfl]

45 days is your best option unless you want to wast your pct. you could do 30 days but i think its too soon in my experience.

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[alexvega]

45 days is your best option unless you want to wast your pct. you could do 30 days but i think its too soon in my experience.

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alright BRO !

thx

 

[alexvega]

Hope it helped and good luck. Do your research and think. Asking questions here is a great way to get knowledge. just double check on other sites, really dig...before you jump into something.

Bro i was trying to figure out, how can do a 10 week cycle
running undecanoato test. how many times have to pin a week?
thanks

 

[Swfl]

Twice a week is best but you can also do one big shot a week,the theory is that the twice weekly injections keep levels more balanced. But with that half life 16days you can get away with only pinning once a week.

 

[alexvega]

Twice a week is best but you can also do one big shot a week,the theory is that the twice weekly injections keep levels more balanced. But with that half life 16days you can get away with only pinning once a week.

i do this question considering that the test und,has a half life of 16 days ,instead test enanthate 10.5

obviously with test u, can save more drugs just 1 pin a week but it just give me 250 mg / week
instead test enanthate 500 mg because i have to pin twice at week.

thats my big doubt!
thx

 

[SloppyJ]

Not sure your question but no 250 of test U isn't a good dose. 250mg of test U actually has less test in it than 250mg of Test E. The ester has a greater mass in test U so that comprises more of the 250mg.

 

[Swfl]

i do this question considering that the test und,has a half life of 16 days ,instead test enanthate 10.5

obviously with test u, can save more drugs just 1 pin a week but it just give me 250 mg / week
instead test enanthate 500 mg because i have to pin twice at week.

thats my big doubt!
thx

With the test U. You wouldn't Jack to CC's one time per week just because it's one injection doesn't mean you only do one cc

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[Swfl]

Lets try this again.

With the test U. You would just increase your injection to two CC's one time per week. Just because it's one injection doesn't mean you only do one cc and with Test E if you inject twice weekly there is nothing to say you only inject 1cc per shot. You could do two cc's if you wanted or 1.5cc's depending your planned doseage.

 

[collinb]

I feel you don't undnerstand how steroids work.
How many explanations do you need?

 

[alexvega]

I feel you don't undnerstand how steroids work.
How many explanations do you need?

don?t come here to protest, im trying to understand how to use the test U.

now let me know how the roids works bro!
i will appreciate ur time
thx

 

[alexvega]

Twice a week is best but you can also do one big shot a week,the theory is that the twice weekly injections keep levels more balanced. But with that half life 16days you can get away with only pinning once a week.

ok this is the reason why i?m asking about how many times a week should i pin with test U.
nebido= 1000mg/ 4 ml( test U )

Primoteston= 250mg / 1 ml( test enanthate)

can i do 500 mg at week ?no matter which one you choose?
thx