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Aite guys, update and questions;
As mentioned in last thread, in mid cycle that included blue top generics i was contemplating upping the dose from 4 iu to 6iu. ( I DID) I also mentioned i had scored a fresh batch of new gh when this took place. The kefei i posted picts of was working and i still have for cruise. I believe it was under dosed just a bit but all good and my bud staying with it too. What i scored boyz was the grey tops. They are good to go peeps!!!!!!!! sense my last post on the old thread i picked up a little wrist and hand discomfort. Can't call it pain cause it doesn't affect me as bad as most. Granted this is my highest dose. still got achy legs, aka growing pains. i have also stated back pumps are the worst right now & working threw it with my massage girl. Iv only had this before with high dose tren and provie.
4iu am e.d.
2iu early afternoon e.d.
the rest at the tail end of the aas. ( 3 more weeks)
tri-tren 150mg m.w.f
test cyp 375mg ew

Here is what i need help with guyz, blood work not to shabby sense all these years made me Polycythemic , also i been open about.
All that stuff is gtg guys hc,t hgb, so im going to whats concerning me.
I believe again its due to the kickass greytops lol.

OK my thyroid stats suck !!!!!!!!!!!T4 is 4.3 and i'm def feeling a little sluggish & that's me taking 150mcg ed !!!! OK so i take 100mcg anyway ed( doctors orders) to keep it normal usually around 4.9-5.4 I add a little more while I'm on gh
1. is it the gh killing it as i'v heard ? suggestions ?
2. anybody had back pumps from gh ? it could be my tren, it is good. just didn't really notice till went to 6iu
if your curious, TT 1449
O, glucose averaging 83 -87 early am fasting
Guys, i would apreciate any input here on those issues
Preesh Guys.
 
oh, and you young guys that i read all the shit you wanna do, the shit you do now will affect you later. take a break every now and then and take care of your body. Trust me:D
 
They bad son !!!! :winkfinger:
The bf's update posted in old thread
I always heard that it will kill the thyroid function if legit. Any thoughts big man? I also have been listening lately that the t3 will cause a negative feedback and say go strictly t4 instead. FUCK i already rocking 150 mcg t4 . Don't really know what other dudes are doing bout it? any thoughts ? Send me some experience traffic to the thread Vic.
 
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stillatit said:
Aite guys, update and questions;
As mentioned in last thread, in mid cycle that included blue top generics i was contemplating upping the dose from 4 iu to 6iu. ( I DID) I also mentioned i had scored a fresh batch of new gh when this took place. The kefei i posted picts of was working and i still have for cruise. I believe it was under dosed just a bit but all good and my bud staying with it too. What i scored boyz was the grey tops. They are good to go peeps!!!!!!!! sense my last post on the old thread i picked up a little wrist and hand discomfort. Can't call it pain cause it doesn't affect me as bad as most. Granted this is my highest dose. still got achy legs, aka growing pains. i have also stated back pumps are the worst right now & working threw it with my massage girl. Iv only had this before with high dose tren and provie.
4iu am e.d.
2iu early afternoon e.d.
the rest at the tail end of the aas. ( 3 more weeks)
tri-tren 150mg m.w.f
test cyp 375mg ew

Here is what i need help with guyz, blood work not to shabby sense all these years made me Polycythemic , also i been open about.
All that stuff is gtg guys hc,t hgb, so im going to whats concerning me.
I believe again its due to the kickass greytops lol.

OK my thyroid stats suck !!!!!!!!!!!T4 is 4.3 and i'm def feeling a little sluggish & that's me taking 150mcg ed !!!! OK so i take 100mcg anyway ed( doctors orders) to keep it normal usually around 4.9-5.4 I add a little more while I'm on gh
1. is it the gh killing it as i'v heard ? suggestions ?
2. anybody had back pumps from gh ? it could be my tren, it is good. just didn't really notice till went to 6iu
if your curious, TT 1449
O, glucose averaging 83 -87 early am fasting
Guys, i would apreciate any input here on those issues
Preesh Guys.
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You can (although rarely) get negative feedback from T3...My doc says 1 grain daily (60 Mcg) works for me keeping TSH between 2 and 3. The Grey Top will most defineitly load your thyroid levels as will any legit gh.
stillatit said:
They bad son !!!! :winkfinger:
The bf's update posted in old thread
I always heard that it will kill the thyroid function if legit. Any thoughts big man? I also have been listening lately that the t3 will cause a negative feedback and say go strictly t4 instead. FUCK i already rocking 150 mcg t4 . Don't really know what other dudes are doing bout it? any thoughts ? Send me some experience traffic to the thread Vic.
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As always Vic the man! I too tried to go upwards of 4 then 5 IU daily, 5 onm 2 off but no dice. Started getting mild jhoint pains which became worse, tingling in hands with intermitent numbness...all the usual sides from legit gh...
NO WAY would i ever use anything i had to think twice about and theres no second guessing here... The Greys are gtg...
VictorZ06 said:
Told you those GreyTops are no joke brother!! ;) Enjoy!



/V
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Cornertech, That's 60 mcg of "T3" daily? Is this to keep you norm or for when you are on growth levels ?
I got a shit load of T3 in addition to my synthroid script.
As stated, i have to take 100mcg these days off cycle daily. but as you see the numbers , FUCK, i'm below the low acceptable with these badass greytops. FYI, TSH = 1.7
Def explains the recent sluggishness.
Looking for info & ad vice peeps.

cornertech said:
You can (although rarely) get negative feedback from T3...My doc says 1 grain daily (60 Mcg) works for me keeping TSH between 2 and 3. The Grey Top will most defineitly load your thyroid levels as will any legit gh.
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i am worried i have been taking t3 100mcg for like a year or 2 now ed it does not seem to do any thing good or bad i just take it out of habit . should i try to wean down or can i just stop.it is from rc places so might not even be real idk it is super cheap.i thought i read t3 will not cause long term perment shut down now some are saying it does and t4 is better t3 use to be said was better.
 
Well, you shouldn't take it if you don't need it, Thyroid gland will suppress, go haywire, die out, etc. Cycles are meant to be cycled for recovery. or as you get older you will have trouble like a lot of us older guys. Now i believe as well t4 is the new t3. t4 in fact converts to t3.
I sure wish we could get some good experience in on this thread for your sake, MY SAKE OBVIOUSLY, and others.

Maybe i should have started a new thread " hgh & thyroid" because this thread is also a" BIG PROPS" to the greytops if anybody contemplating.
 
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Stiil...my bad bro...I take Armour; Armour Thyroid is a natural preparation derived from porcine thyroid glands (T3 liothyronine is approximately four times as potent as T4 levothyroxine on a microgram for microgram basis.) They provide 38 mcg levothyroxine (T4) and 9 mcg liothyronine (T3) per grain of thyroid.
I use a vitality doctor and i use this to maintain, as I stated before, between a Total TSH of 2-3; preferably more towards 2. Anything above 4 can be interpreted as subclinical hypo...depending on the testing lab and the scale they use.. historically the more gh, the more Armour.
One thing I like about Armour is that if you need to stop it for whatever reason you can. With th e synthetics that may sometimes pose an issue. Secondly; the balance between T3/T4 is delicate to say the least. Armour (natural) seems to impact this less as one doesn't have to play chemist, which for obvious reasons can be catastrophic. The sluggishness you state may also just simply be a normal side effect but not sure I would supplement the Synthroid without the input of a bona-fide opinion. Totally feel ya on those Grey Tops!
Stay well brotha...
Is this to keep you norm or for when you are on growth levels ?
I got a shit load of T3 in addition to my synthroid script.
As stated, i have to take 100mcg these days off cycle daily. but as you see the numbers , FUCK, i'm below the low acceptable with these badass greytops. FYI, TSH = 1.7
Def explains the recent sluggishness.
Looking for info & ad vice peeps.
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Tenfo, i have great doctor for it, but he is admittedly older standards and scale. he allows me to have input and will be sitting down with him. But i like hearing what others are doing especially with GH and cycling. I know its creating this feeling as i been battling thyroid for years and when it's this low, you feel it. like to get it back up for the rest of the cycle and tapper back when i pull the GH dose down. You right it's freaking chemistry. I used to throw T3 at it on top of my prescribed T4 dose but holding off for more input and doc's thoughts.

preesh brother.
 
So when we are talking about numbness in hands, is this only when you sleep or at any time? Ive been running a dozer for the past week for 10 hours a day and running the joy sticks and my hands get a tingly sensation. Also when pecking on the phone they get that feeling as well.

Is it the GH or my piss poor circulation and poor flexibility?
 
Still; I feel ya....good point well stated! I usually feel it early in the am and when i am using my hands more. They (hands) def go numb if I don't "shake them out". The harder I hit the gh the sides scale accordingly.
Stickmancqb said:
So when we are talking about numbness in hands, is this only when you sleep or at any time? Ive been running a dozer for the past week for 10 hours a day and running the joy sticks and my hands get a tingly sensation. Also when pecking on the phone they get that feeling as well.

Is it the GH or my piss poor circulation and poor flexibility?
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Still; I feel ya....good point well stated! I usually feel it early in the am and when i am using my hands more. They (hands) def go numb if I don't "shake them out". The harder I hit the gh the sides scale accordingly. I would assume its the gh....
Stickmancqb said:
So when we are talking about numbness in hands, is this only when you sleep or at any time? Ive been running a dozer for the past week for 10 hours a day and running the joy sticks and my hands get a tingly sensation. Also when pecking on the phone they get that feeling as well.

Is it the GH or my piss poor circulation and poor flexibility?
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I would guess it's the GH as well since you are both running Greys. I envy you guys who don't get the sides of pins and needles, numbness, and bloat. I used to get the sides a looooong time ago. No longer. When I first started...I had to get get two more links for my watch, and that was a Rolex and each link cost me a couple hundred bucks. My leathers for my bike no longer fit me...especially my boots. Had to get new ones. Had to buy a few new pieces of clothes for my wardrobe. My old work required me to carry a concealed pistol, and my waist size went up so I had to get larger pants to hide an IWB holster. My cowboy boots that I wear had to be sent back to Lucchese and have them stretched a bit. They put my boots in a stretcher and would moisten the skin so it would not crack...that was a two month process. I sent them 3 pairs and because they were high end, they didn't charge me thank God!! I won't buy another brand of boots other than Lucchese. God I love Texas....didn't think they would be so kind to a Yankee like me! lol

So yeah....in short, GH can get rather expensive. New shoes, pants, watch links, etc. But I am in no way complaining because the wonders it has done for my health is priceless. GH for life.




/V
 
Like minded Yankees are OK in my book. Like I told you, when Texas leaves this fucktard of a nation, I want you on my team. I'm going to paint your ass green, piss you off and point and go say fuck some shit up! Hahaa.
 
DANG big man, you know boots !!!! ;) O'L LADY SAYS YOU ALRIGHT FOR A NORTHERN BOY. lol
I have very little prob with the hands and wrist . I had a friend tell me last night i was looking super lean and no size lost and he just saw me 3 weeks ago. loved hearing it. just gota get this thyroid thing corrected gys. Its kinda beating me down a bit.
 
Taurine will knock down the back pumps.
Also if you aren't doing so a dose of about 3 grams of spirulina a day helps replenish the iodine necessary to help keep T3 and T4 levels steadier. Not perfect, but a help.
 
stillatit said:
Cool thanks, glad to know someone is reading. spent half the night researching thyroid and GH.
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Thyroid is a never ending circle of wtf. Both me and the wife have thyroid issues so I'm trying to research and figure both of us out. Thyroid issues can be caused by so many outside influences and it's hard to narrow down exactly what is causing the problems. Like big ronnie said, iodine deficiency is a big problem and the number one way to get iodine is through salt which I hate.
 
Big Ronnie: what about getting iodine it through kelp? P
 
Had Easter with family member( pathologist). learned a lot for free, LOL
For me TSH readings mean nothing anymore because my signal is gone anyway now FOR YEARS. Doesn't even matter where from, pituitary or hypothalamus. So i been on T4 a long time.
T4 is indeed the mechanism for making T3. So if T4 is low as well But free T3 is low, you feed more T4 for more conversion. If you feed T3 guys ( negative feedback loop kills your GH.
So I'm thinking adding 50 mcg on top of my daily required 100mcg and retest. Also because GH killing thyroid, thyroid pushes up cholesterol and liver numbers. getting your thyroid in check can actually straighten out several other bad numbers on your bloods. So GH & thyroid together can make it a even better experience if done right. And no doubt will inprove your GH cycle.
And yes, he says drop my dose of T4 to close to base line mcg when GH iu drop or when you stop.
Now of course, this is my situation.....the natural iodine enhancing way sounds good as well but want work for me.

Just an update boyz.
 
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