Vegetarianism

[DOMS]

Every New Years Eve I club a baby seal.

 

[Italianangel]

I am natural, not vegan but close........I gained all my mass this way, I know I am only but a girl lacking testosterone but you ever heard of bill pearl????? VEGAN! I got a shitload list of bb who are vegan, huge mofos too!!! It can be done and it is a healthier and better lifestyle!
The vegan girl is pretty much on the ball with her info......can't say that much for anyone else. I have studied this for over 20 years now and yes I not vegan but I try my best to do what I can to better things in my lifestyle......you don't have to but at least be open to learning.........studies are there to back up most of the stuff the vegan gal is saying.......teehee, your new name is VEGAN GIRL........

 

[Italianangel]

vegans do not kill animals! Now I am getting angry...I already said EAT WHAT EVER THE HELL YOU WANT! Dammit, let's just attack the vegan girl because she eats no meat and doesn't want to bulk up like the fucking incredible hulk. WTF??!!!

remember in school, getting punched inthe arm because the boys liked to tease the pretty gals..........well this is what they are doing now - BUGGING YOU AND POKING. Let them post some scientific proof then we have a true discussion.

 

[DOMS]

I am natural, not vegan but close........I gained all my mass this way, I know I am only but a girl lacking testosterone but you ever heard of bill pearl????? VEGAN! I got a shitload list of bb who are vegan, huge mofos too!!! It can be done and it is a healthier and better lifestyle!
The vegan girl is pretty much on the ball with her info......can't say that much for anyone else. I have studied this for over 20 years now and yes I not vegan but I try my best to do what I can to better things in my lifestyle......you don't have to but at least be open to learning.........studies are there to back up most of the stuff the vegan gal is saying.......teehee, your new name is VEGAN GIRL........

Bill was not, and is not, a vegan. He eats eggs and drinks milk. There are no successful bodybuilders who are vegans.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

I love Italian Angel Thank you!!!

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

http://veggie.org/veggie/famous.veg.athletes.shtml

 

[DOMS]

Vegitarians are not Vegans.

Vegetarians are people who choose to live an alternative dietary lifestyle. Vegans are nuts.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

Did you even go to the link ? It will show VEGANS next to their names. PLEASE explain why I am nuts because I don't follow "YOUR" proper guidelines of eating. Let the words of wisdom (bull shit) flow!!!! Also include your Masters Degree in Human Health and Nutrition.

 

[DOMS]

Bill ate eggs and drank milk. Vegans don't do these things.

You're not nuts because you don't follow my guidelines for eating...it's because you write like John H.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

And that makes sense to me because I know who John H is? I know what vegans do btw, thanks Why label me at all? Do you know me other than this post? Nice.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

Vegitarians are not Vegans.

Vegetarians are people who choose to live an alternative dietary lifestyle. Vegans are nuts.

Incase you forgot already because you are obviously very closed minded and "always right"

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

I'm sorry I forgot that you guys just eat meat side dishes with your meat entrees...my fault!! And drink your meat protein drinks and meat deserts. Your well on your way to long healthy lives!! Congratulations!

 

[The Monkey Man]

vegans do not kill animals!

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WASHINGTON MINK FARM RAIDED; ALF OPERATIVES SET THOUSANDS OF DOMESTICATED MINK LOOSE


A family-owned mink farm in Sultan, Washington, is raided by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF). Sometime between midnight and 4 a.m. the cages of nearly all the farm???s mink are opened by the trespassing vegans. More than 10,000 of the domesticated animals are set loose and abandoned, although about half remained in their cages. Volunteers are able to rescue about 6,000 of the traumatized mink, but scores of others die from dehydration or from being struck by cars. Losses to the farm are estimated at $500,000 resulting from lost or damaged pelts and the loss of future production.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

And that's a bad thing? They rescued 6,000 of them and oh... boo hoo they lost money. Is that all you can find? Do a google search on the good things on saving animals. And how bad eating meat and dairy really is.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

Taking my Vegan ass to the gym...have fun bashing me while I am gone!!!

 

[shm353]

remember in school, getting punched inthe arm because the boys liked to tease the pretty gals..........well this is what they are doing now - BUGGING YOU AND POKING. Let them post some scientific proof then we have a true discussion.

I believe the scientific term for the historic action you're refering to is called a "hurts-donut". practiced by meat eaters for centuries. Early cultures consider it to be a form of mating ritual.

 

[Italianangel]

Bill was not, and is not, a vegan. He eats eggs and drinks milk. There are no successful bodybuilders who are vegans.

My bad - here is a list of sport star athletes who were vegan or vegatarian.......Bill is in there as are many bodybuilders, many of which are vegan - now there is also vegan natural and vegan on steroids, that makes a diff too.

Sports Personalities
Hank Aaron (home run champion in major league baseball) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
B J Armstrong (US Basketball star)
Al Beckles (body builder)
Sorya Bonali (ice skater)
Les Brown (veteran runner)
Peter Burwash (tennis)
Andreas Cahling (body builder)
Andreas Cahling (bodybuilder)
Chris Campbell (1980 world champion wrestler)
Joanna Conway (ice skater)
Sylvia Cranston (triathlete)
Sally Eastall (Marathon runner - UK No 2, vegan)
Di Edwards (runner, Olympic semi-finalist)
Katie Fitzgibbon (marathon runner)
Clare Francis (sailer)
Louis Freitas (body builder)
Carol Gould (marathon runner)
Estelle Gray (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Sammy Green (runner)
Ruth Heidrich (3-time Ironman finisher, marathoner, age-group record holder, Pres. Vegetarian Society of Honolulu) (vegan) Source: personal acquaintance, also...her book--A Race for Life
Sally Hibberd (British Women's Mountain Bike Champion)
Sharon Hounsell (Miss Wales Bodybuilding Champion)
Desmond Howard (formerly w/Washington Redskins, now w/Jacksonville Jaguars) Source: PETA mailer
Roger Hughes (Welsh National Ski Champion)
David Johnson (BAA coach)
Kathy Johnson (Olympic Gymnast)
Alan Jones (British ski jumper)
Billie Jean King (tennis champion) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Killer Kowalski (wrestler) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Jack LaLanne (Fitness guru) (vegan)
Donnie LaLonde (Former Light Heavyweight Champion of the World. (Lost title to Sugar Ray Leonard)) Source: Article in San Jose Mercury News
Tony LaRussa (Manager of St. Louis Cardinals - US team) Source: PETA, Animals Agenda, Animals Voice, Veg Times, others
Silken Laumann (Olympic rower) Source: Cooking Television Show
Judy Leden (British, European & World Hang Gliding champion)
Marv Levey (Buffalo Bills Coach)
Jutta Müller (multiple Windsurfing World Cup Champion) Source: Flutlicht 95/6/18 on Südwest 3 (German TV program)
Jack Maitland (triathlete and fell runner)
Cheryl Marek (cyclist) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Leslie Marx (fencer;1996 woman's epee national champion)
Kirsty McDermott (runner)
Lindford McFarquar (body builder)
Robert Millar (cyclist)
Katherine Monbiot (world champion arm wrestler and nutritionist) (vegan) Source: The Vegan Society UK
Monika Montsho (weightlifter, 2 x runnerup GB Championships 60kg, NW woman weightlifter of the year 1991)
Edwin Moses
Martina Navratilova (Retired Tennis Champion) Source: Magazine Interviews/Genesis Awards
Julie Ann Niewiek (Basketball commentator) Source: Grand Rapids press/ Image Magazine
Paavo Nurmi
Robert Parish (Center - Warriors, Celtics, Hornets, Bulls) Source: Hearsay
Bill Pearl (Bodybuilder, Mr America) Source: Getting Stronger by Bill Pearl, pg 399
Bill Pearl (Mr. Universe and bodybuilder) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Anthony Peeler (NBA Grizzlies basketball player) Source: NBA web site profiles
Dave Scott (five time winner of the Ironman Triathlon) (vegan) "The New Laurel's Kitchen" cookbook
Debbie Spaeth-Herring (Georgia State power-lifter) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian
Jonathon Speelman (chess)
Lucy Stephens (triathlete - vegan)
Jacques Vaughn (All American point guard, #1-ranked Univ of KS Jayhawks) Source: Lawrence (KS) Journal World (numerous editions)
Kirsty Wade (runner)
Bill Walton (basketball player) Source: A Teen's Guide to Going Vegetarian

 

[Zac_Champigny]

Boiler....I am going to explode!!!! Why are people so stupid???? Does it really bother these guys that I won't eat meat?? Why do they care? *UGH*

I personally couldn't care less what you decide to do with your life. Just don't say that people who eat meat kill animals, and people who don't eat meat let them live. As I said, hundreds of thousands of animals die during the harvest of wheat and grain. It is an insult to the animals that have given their lives for people to act as if it doesnt happen.

 

[Zac_Champigny]

...


WASHINGTON MINK FARM RAIDED; ALF OPERATIVES SET THOUSANDS OF DOMESTICATED MINK LOOSE


A family-owned mink farm in Sultan, Washington, is raided by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF). Sometime between midnight and 4 a.m. the cages of nearly all the farm???s mink are opened by the trespassing vegans. More than 10,000 of the domesticated animals are set loose and abandoned, although about half remained in their cages. Volunteers are able to rescue about 6,000 of the traumatized mink, but scores of others die from dehydration or from being struck by cars. Losses to the farm are estimated at $500,000 resulting from lost or damaged pelts and the loss of future production.

I believe what it meant was that after the idiots set them free, volenteers found and returned 6,000 of them to the farm. The other 4 thousand died. Not 6,000 of them were safely returned to the wild and lived a happy life.

 

[DOMS]

My bad - here is a list of sport star athletes who were vegan or vegatarian.......Bill is in there as are many bodybuilders, many of which are vegan - now there is also vegan natural and vegan on steroids, that makes a diff too.

The only reason that I know about Bill is that he's my favorite bodybuilder. In his youth he had my what I consider to be the optimal body, plus he's very intelligent.

Vegan or not, steroids make a very big difference.

 

[DOMS]

Incase you forgot already because you are obviously very closed minded and "always right"

And you're about as fun as a militant Muslim. If someone pokes fun at your ways: BOOM.

 

[DOMS]

I believe what it meant was that after the idiots set them free, volenteers found and returned 6,000 of them to the farm. The other 4 thousand died. Not 6,000 of them were safely returned to the wild and lived a happy life.

I remember a story about that sort of crap happening in Utah. Some PETA jokers "freed" a bunch of minks from a farm. Minks are not native to Utah. They ended up causing considerable damage to the environment.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

http://supak.com/organic_gardening/farming.htm <~~~ read that Zac
CFS you are so shallow (nice avatar) it's never going to stop with you know matter how much proof is thrown in your face, which is fine, just stop being so damn rude. "Peta Jokers" What the hell is that? Knock the Grammar off of your saying and I think that suits your personality just fine
Did I already not say "Eat whatever you want"??? Stop challenging me.
Italian Angel has put up the names for you to read and STILL you don't read them and persist on arguing with me. You have taught me nothing but the fact that you are one sided and ignorant to learning anything.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

World Hunger

Number of human beings who could be fed by the grain and soybeans eaten by U.S. livestock: 1,300,000,000

Percentage of corn grown in United States eaten by human beings: 20
Percentage of corn grown in United States eaten by livestock: 80

Percentage of oats grown in United States eaten by livestock: 95

Percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 90

Percentage of carbohydrate wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 99

Percentage of dietary fiber wasted by cycling grain through livestock: 100

How frequently a child dies of starvation: Every 2 seconds

Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on 1 acre of land: 20,000

Pounds of beef that can be produced on 1 acre of land: 165

Percentage of U.S. agricultural land used to produce beef: 56

Pounds of grain and soybeans needed to produce 1 pound of feedlot beef: 16

Pounds of protein fed to chickens to produce 1 pound of protein as chicken flesh: 5 pounds

Pounds of protein fed to hogs to produce 1 pound of protein as hog flesh: 7.5 pounds

Number of children who starve to death every day: 40,000

Number of pure vegetarians who can be fed on the amount of land needed to feed 1 person consuming meat-based diet: 20

Number of people who will starve to death this year: 60,000,000

Number of people who could be adequately fed by the grain saved if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10%: 60,000,000

READ THESE INCASE YOU DON'T LOOK AT THE LINK AND ARGUE THAT.

 

[DOMS]

Knock the Grammar off of your saying and I think that suits your personality just fine

This looks like English...but it makes no sense.

 

[boilermaker]

Isn't everyone a little tired of this thread by now?

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

Hey CFS look under your name dumb ass. Make sense now?
Did ya read the stats? Of course not! Because you have no intelligent answer for that hu??!!
B...sorry, I am actually very tired of it, it's just they don't see my point and it's so frustrating. Facts are there but they continue to upset me...I need to just ignore it.
Some people can't accept others who are not just like them.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

A common misperception is that increasing protein intake will foster greater muscle mass. This is not true. The most that most researchers recommend to increase protein intake for body builders is to 1.2 g/kg of body weight. What will provide the impetus for increasing the muscle mass is strength training (weights, resistance training, etc). Adequate carbohydrate intake is necessary to complete strength training. Protein is not an adequate energy source, and any excess will be turned into fat. In addition, excess protein places stress on the kidneys and dehydrates the body. This will inhibit sports activity.

 

[boilermaker]

Well, I choose to eat meat, fish and poultry. You don't. Big deal. I personally loathe PETA and know they practice irresponsible and often illegal forms of demonstration and action to get their points accross. I don't know if you do or not. For all I know, you may be a PETA member. I don't really care. You are entitled to your opinion and I'll respect it. The great thing about this country is we have the freedom to make those choices for ourselves. I'm going to try incorporating some veggie dishes into my diet because I think alot of it makes sense. That's all I have to say.

 

[Tropicalgirlxx]

Enough said