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Hey everyone, Im new to the forum and I just have a few questions about Meltdown. Ive been working out for about a year and a bit now and ive lost about 60 pounds. I cant seem to work off the rest of my fat id say. would you guys suggest me to start experimenting with Meltdown or any other Fat burning supplements? Some of my questions are...

1) I'm 18 years of age, should I wait until im a older age until i start using fat burners?

2) What part of the body does the fat burning target? or is it a full body thing?

3) What kind of work out schedule must I have to maintain the results?

4) what side effects should I expect when taking a product like this?

Sorry if they are dumb question, Im just really curious!

Thanks guys!

- Chris.
 
Lacey12 said:
Hey everyone, Im new to the forum and I just have a few questions about Meltdown. Ive been working out for about a year and a bit now and ive lost about 60 pounds. I cant seem to work off the rest of my fat id say. would you guys suggest me to start experimenting with Meltdown or any other Fat burning supplements? Some of my questions are...

1) I'm 18 years of age, should I wait until im a older age until i start using fat burners?

2) What part of the body does the fat burning target? or is it a full body thing?

3) What kind of work out schedule must I have to maintain the results?

4) what side effects should I expect when taking a product like this?

Sorry if they are dumb question, Im just really curious!

Thanks guys!

- Chris.
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2 reduction in bodyfat is an overall result, generally not targetable...
some will argue this but only with limited strength

3 maintanance of body fat is a dietary issue
 
i have personally never tried it and i have considered it myself


if you are trying to target fat in a specific area you should consider the fact that to lower the bodyfat in one specific area, you have to lower your overall bodyfat.

targeting is dificult/not possible

lower your overall bodyfat will show result in ALL areas.

and you asked what workout regimne you should use to maintain.

maintenance has to do with the number of calories you burn vs. the number you consume...

working out burns cals..
but i could do 20 hours of cardio a week and still gain weight/fat...
i could and i have...



that all being said.
fatburners like this one, raise the number of calories you burn in a day, and/or increase the bodies ability to utilize fat stores as energy

they COULD be very beneficial, if for nothing else but for your self discipline.
 
Ben dur said:
i have personally never tried it and i have considered it myself


if you are trying to target fat in a specific area you should consider the fact that to lower the bodyfat in one specific area, you have to lower your overall bodyfat.

targeting is dificult/not possible

lower your overall bodyfat will show result in ALL areas.

and you asked what workout regimne you should use to maintain.

maintenance has to do with the number of calories you burn vs. the number you consume...

working out burns cals..
but i could do 20 hours of cardio a week and still gain weight/fat...
i could and i have...



that all being said.
fatburners like this one, raise the number of calories you burn in a day, and/or increase the bodies ability to utilize fat stores as energy

they COULD be very beneficial, if for nothing else but for your self discipline.
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Thanks alot for the information. I'll keep looking into it
 
it depends what you diet is like, that wil be the most important part of losing body fat , having too high calorie intake will not help and have a way to low calorie intake will not work (1200-1300 as an example) your best bet is to figure out how many calories you approx burn a day and eat a slightly lower amount, if that is in order then taking a product like meltdown will help , but that should come first.
 
hello then before nothing I am wanted to present... I am new in the forum… and was reading on meltdown and I want to use it but something stops to me to use it is almost that not nothing of this product...

and but that nothing I am 18 years old I measure 1.80 and weight 88kgs and I have arterial tension of 130/70...and it would want to see his opinion almost I do not feel the burners that is my arterial pressure but normal mine is of 120/60 because that day I was walking and upper presion… but in if queria to see its opinion, recomendarian to me to use it?

bye :D
 
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130/70 doesnt seem too excessive.

at 18 years old you should just be concerned with DIET for leaning up
 
Hello. I am new to the forum. Found this the same way it seemd many have....by googling meltdown.

I am 6'3" and 250ish pounds. If i had to guess around 28%BF, maybe higher.

My question is regarding this vs the e/c/a stack. I started ECA about 2 weeks ago...wasn't working out at first...stated that this week. I have always had success with ephedrine (who hasnt) and never really minded the side affects.

Should I stop the ECA and get this instead? Will the results really be comparable? I wouldn't have considered this before but the price of MD is not bad at all now.
 
Bigtime said:
Hello. I am new to the forum. Found this the same way it seemd many have....by googling meltdown.

I am 6'3" and 250ish pounds. If i had to guess around 28%BF, maybe higher.

My question is regarding this vs the e/c/a stack. I started ECA about 2 weeks ago...wasn't working out at first...stated that this week. I have always had success with ephedrine (who hasnt) and never really minded the side affects.

Should I stop the ECA and get this instead? Will the results really be comparable? I wouldn't have considered this before but the price of MD is not bad at all now.
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If you need it to suppress appetite. Caffeine,etc is good for that. But if youre 20+ body fat then its all about a "balanced" diet thats 20-25% below your maintenance to achieve a decent negative calorie balance. If you really think its helping you burn any considerable amount of fat then send me the money.
 
Well my estimates on my body were close....except apparently I have lost some weight in the last 2 weeks!! Last time i weighed my self was around the beginning of the month and was 248.....today I am 236.7lbs and 28.9%bf.

as far as sending you the money....if ephedrine didnt work, why did the ban completely change the thermogenic side of the industry? And yesterday was the first workout I have done in i dont know how long....just e/c/a for 2 weeks and "watching" what I ate. I guess I lost 11 lbs of water...


Would like to hear GoPro's take on coming off the ephedrine for the meltdown...
 
wow....this thread completely died.....what gives? People were responding lrft and right with input for 3 months and then nothing for 2 weeks? Something happen that I dont know about?
 
Bigtime said:
Well my estimates on my body were close....except apparently I have lost some weight in the last 2 weeks!! Last time i weighed my self was around the beginning of the month and was 248.....today I am 236.7lbs and 28.9%bf.

as far as sending you the money....if ephedrine didnt work, why did the ban completely change the thermogenic side of the industry? And yesterday was the first workout I have done in i dont know how long....just e/c/a for 2 weeks and "watching" what I ate. I guess I lost 11 lbs of water...


Would like to hear GoPro's take on coming off the ephedrine for the meltdown...
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I think that MD is the BEST non-ephedra-based product on the market, but it is not more powerful than an ephedrine/caffeine stack for pure fat loss IMO.
 
gopro said:
I think that MD is the BEST non-ephedra-based product on the market, but it is not more powerful than an ephedrine/caffeine stack for pure fat loss IMO.
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So Sub Q fat burner would work better since there is caffeine in it?
 
Bigtime said:
Well my estimates on my body were close....except apparently I have lost some weight in the last 2 weeks!! Last time i weighed my self was around the beginning of the month and was 248.....today I am 236.7lbs and 28.9%bf.

as far as sending you the money....if ephedrine didnt work, why did the ban completely change the thermogenic side of the industry? And yesterday was the first workout I have done in i dont know how long....just e/c/a for 2 weeks and "watching" what I ate. I guess I lost 11 lbs of water...


Would like to hear GoPro's take on coming off the ephedrine for the meltdown...
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Merkaba never said ephedrine did not work......merely stated that diet is the most important part and will be for all stages of fat loss what most people do not realize is that these products just help and give an extra "edge" to fat loss...........meltdown will not compare to the ECA stack but is probably more readily available and and possible a little cheaper......as for fat loss supplements without Ephedrine i have known some people who took MD and seen some pretty convincing results............but like Merkaba said DIET first
 
Gopro, I just bought MD and I'm taking NO Shotgun and Glycergrow right now. Does it make sense to add MD since I want to loose fat or NO Shotgun already has components that MD do?

Thank you
 
Thought I would give MD a try based on some of the reviews here.

Day 4 currently taking rec dosage of 3 caps per day.

Im currently 160lb, 5'9" and reasonably lean - my estimate is approx 10% BF. Daily calorie intake is around 2400 with macro split of 40%P 35%C 25%F. No carbs after 3pm usually.

Must say I have noticed almost zero effect in regards to jitters etc or energy levels. By the time I train in the evening I dont really have any extra stamina or energy either.

I have hit the wall in terms of reduction in BF and was looking at MD to help me drop 1-2%. Might consider dropping 100 calories and seeing what effect that has.

Really just wanted to gauge feedback on doubling daily dosage to 3 caps upon waking and another 3 caps 1 hour prior to PM workout. Anyone currently using this dosage?
 
HugoMontano said:
Gopro, I just bought MD and I'm taking NO Shotgun and Glycergrow right now. Does it make sense to add MD since I want to loose fat or NO Shotgun already has components that MD do?

Thank you
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Shotgun only contains a few components of MD. You could perhaps combine one capsule of MD with Shotgun preworkout, then take 1-2 caps of MD at another time of day to further promote fat loss.
 
blueboy75 said:
Thought I would give MD a try based on some of the reviews here.

Day 4 currently taking rec dosage of 3 caps per day.

Im currently 160lb, 5'9" and reasonably lean - my estimate is approx 10% BF. Daily calorie intake is around 2400 with macro split of 40%P 35%C 25%F. No carbs after 3pm usually.

Must say I have noticed almost zero effect in regards to jitters etc or energy levels. By the time I train in the evening I dont really have any extra stamina or energy either.

I have hit the wall in terms of reduction in BF and was looking at MD to help me drop 1-2%. Might consider dropping 100 calories and seeing what effect that has.

Really just wanted to gauge feedback on doubling daily dosage to 3 caps upon waking and another 3 caps 1 hour prior to PM workout. Anyone currently using this dosage?
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feeling jittery is not a sign of it working, people taking ephedrine get used to the "rush" you get during the first few weeks so they up the dose and etc which is never good id stick to the recommended dosage for this stuff dont gauge its effectiveness by a rush feeling..........it will help u get an advantage to lose weight if ur still not dropping adjust ur diet a little not the MD dosage
 
Ngordyn said:
feeling jittery is not a sign of it working, people taking ephedrine get used to the "rush" you get during the first few weeks so they up the dose and etc which is never good id stick to the recommended dosage for this stuff dont gauge its effectiveness by a rush feeling..........it will help u get an advantage to lose weight if ur still not dropping adjust ur diet a little not the MD dosage
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thanks Ngordyn - that is sensible advice. unlike most I actually dont mind that jittery feeling but your right that is not a sign of it working.

on the topic though - what exactly is a sign of it working? if its not the rush there must be some other physical sign. perhaps feeling warmer or loss of appetite. interested to gauge responses.

frankly id be happy with a small drop in fat loss just due to a placebo effect. need something to break the plateau if you know what I mean.
 
well i dont knwo about MD but when i use ephedra on a cut i feel slightly heated and i believe MD contains a appetite suppresant so yes you will notice that a little bit it most likely is working and since you seem to understand tha diet is a critical key you will see real results from it most people dont change their diet and get pissed off cause it doesnt work the only real way to see if it is helping is see with a week to week analysis of weight loss at 10% is when a product like this will be most valueable anyone 15% and up just needs to get their diet straight and they will be fine like you said you hit a plateau of fat loss run a cycle of this and you should see a difference but again you may need to alter your diet a bit
 
Thanks I'll try it with 1 in the morning, at noon and before working out!
 
Im sure this has been discussed somewhere in this thread but theres alot of pages. I noticed in one of you posts Gopro you had you clients taking up to 9 capsels a day. The bottle says dont excede 3 daily. Im sure somewhere this was covered but there is alot of info in 18 pages. Any help would be great.
 
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hey gopro was wondering wat other supplemnts can you use with vpx meltdown to promote fat loss?
 
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