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protein powder is a good thing to do

The first thing to look at is why supplementing with protein powder is a good thing to do when on a weight loss diet.


First, it's going to help you meet your protein needs.


If you are deficient in protein on your weight loss diet, you are going to set yourself up to experience muscle mass loss, and results will not be good.
Second, protein powder is very convenient. When you need something quick, it sure beats reaching for a bag of chips, crackers, or whatever other junk food you might be able to get your hands on.


Finally, protein powder can help with cravings. There is almost every flavor you can image out there, so if you're constantly finding yourself craving a certain food, a protein powder might help you out with this.
 
What about the best -Fat Burner- Hydroxycut Hardcore?
 
This topic has me going round in circles. I searched the site and read many threads with references to fat burners/thermogenics and saw a few like this one and one long one which looked like a gangpile on GoPro for his VPX Meltdown praise (http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/supplements/84194-vpxs-new-meltdown.html) but no majority on any particular product considering there are thousands of members on this site.

Most responses are from already well formed/cut people (unless you're using avatars or other people's bodies) but not many responses of products used to go from say (25%+) BF like me down to 20% or even lower.

I know caloric deficit and exercise will eventually get one a lower BF but I'd rather not have it take 3 years and if spending $30 or $40 a month for say 2-3 months to reach a goal I beleive thats worth it.

I did find this site but don't know what or how they determine the rankings. HTTP://fatburners.org so it lookslike it's a crapshoot on what you decide to pick no matter which site you go to.
 
i go with ECA. the only down side is that it makes me pissed off all the time.
 
I'd rather not go with something that makes me pissed off. There's enough of that in the world.
 
I need a good Thermogenic fat burner.. Is Hydroxycut the best one on the market?
 
site specific fat loss is a load of bs. I can't believe none of the elders have chimed in on this thread yet...thats like saying "here's some pills or lotion to remove that third nipple, it'll be gone in 3 years, just keep staring at it while the lotion is on it, you'll see it disappear".

By yourself a decent thermogenic and research proper dieting/weight training.

Of course it's a load of BS but what's the point? If somebody is dumb enough to buy it then they deserve to be that much poorer.
 
Of course it's a load of BS but what's the point? If somebody is dumb enough to buy it then they deserve to be that much poorer.

What ever became of that topical cream Avant Labs was selling...Lipo Derm was it?


Oh, Best Fat Burner? Learn how to structure your diet and work your ass off.
 
Of course it's a load of BS but what's the point? If somebody is dumb enough to buy it then they deserve to be that much poorer.

Of course diet and workout regime is most important. Are you cutting right now?
 
No, it's strength season for me. I'll be in fat loss mid-March.

Would you be interested in logging a bottle of Dermatherm Target? You don't seem to believe that it works, so i'd like to let you experience it first hand.
 
None of you cunts had anything to say about my posts... ya'll blow!
 
None of you cunts had anything to say about my posts... ya'll blow!

yes, hydroxycut hardcore will get even the obese ripped to shreads . . just stack it with NeoVar and LHJO morning/noon/night
 
Thats what i thought.


And about fucking time... Jesus Christ!
 
I know caloric deficit and exercise will eventually get one a lower BF but I'd rather not have it take 3 years and if spending $30 or $40 a month for say 2-3 months to reach a goal I beleive thats worth it.

1. I went from 265 30ish% BF to 204 12ish% BF from February 2009 to Aug 2009. Went from a 42 waist to a 32-34 (depending on brand). That was pretty damned fast if I do say myself, but I was very motivated, followed my diet plan like a cyborg, and LISTENED to the folks here that gave me solid advice. I did use the ECA stack, but only as I hit lower BF levels (sub 20%) to help me with hunger after I had to reduce my cals so low.

2. If you are really only wanting to go from 25% to around 20%, you dont need any sort of supplements to hit your goal in 2-3 months. A calorie reduction of 500 per day under maintenance will do that easily.

3. Nothing worth doing is easy, and "fat burners" are generally horse shit in my opinion. The only benefit I received from them (only my opinion of course) was a decent level of hunger suppression.
 
I hear that anabolic xtreme slim xtreme is the shit for appetite suprecent,good 12 hour energy,I'm gettin a bottle and testdrive it.let u guys know :moon::attitude::whackit::joke:
 
I drop big body fat very quick drinking red line energy drinks right before cardio, 30min I was drenched with sweat and body temp was high.
 
Thats what i thought.


And about fucking time... Jesus Christ!

I've had much success with animal cuts, meltdown and hydroxy. They all work the same, but you'll definitely need to eat very clean and do your share of lifting/cardio while supplementing to see the affects. There are millions of people who will buy a bottle of a thermo and just take that while eating normally and the first week you'll lose some water weight but after that you're just destroying yourself and your wallet.
 
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I've tried meltdown, hot rox, and hot rox extreme. I'd say the best one are probably meltdown.

But no fat burner is as effective as hard cardio sessions (including HIIT) and/or below maintenance caloric intake.
 
exercise ,exercise. water,water and sleep....:thumb:get off junk food and pop...
 
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