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What are your views on kids using supplementation?

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LAM said:
yes, there is no difference. the human body can not differentiate between nutrients derived from a pill or a food item. same goes for protein(s) etc. the body can not tell the difference between amino acids that are derived from a piece of meat or a powdered protein supplment. the body doesn't know and doesn't care.
There is nothing as good as real food and all nutritionists will tell you natural vitamins derived from real food are the best. The idea that the body can't tell the difference between nutrients from food and from pills is absurd.
In pill form is the nutrient natural or synthetic??? Why do Doctors and nutritionists ect. tell us to take vitamins with real food??? There is a difference without a doubt. :yes:
 
ForemanRules said:
There is nothing as good as real food and all nutritionists will tell you natural vitamins derived from real food are the best. The idea that the body can't tell the difference between nutrients from food and from pills is absurd.
In pill form is the nutrient natural or synthetic??? Why do Doctors and nutritionists ect. tell us to take vitamins with real food??? There is a difference without a doubt. :yes:
Yes there is and its funny (and stupid!) not to think there isnt? Man made? Or natural? Thats just like saying the testosterone pills PH is 100% natural to the testosterone your BALLS make! :tomato: :tomato: :tomato: :tomato: :tomato: :tomato: :gosh: :gosh: :gosh: :bulb: :bulb: :bulb: :bulb: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:
 
Protein isn't expensive either if you buy in bulk. You can get a 10 pound bag of 355 servings for ~$50 online. That's about 14 cents a shake.
 
Please Foreman, u need to change your sig. :blah: :blah:
 
Shit did i miss out on everything. when i was 14 years old there was no such thing. Men and women where still trying to figure out how much it was going to cost to register the horse and buggy.
Fuck I'm i old!
 
and tha ones that believed u (not gonna say any names) need to kill themselves!
 
Tough Old Man said:
Shit did i miss out on everything. when i was 14 years old there was no such thing. Men and women where still trying to figure out how much it was going to cost to register the horse and buggy.
Fuck I'm i old!
:wtf: :haha: :haha: :haha:
 
god hand said:
and tha ones that believed u (not gonna say any names) need to kill themselves!
:laugh: :clapping: :haha: :doh: :bash: :funny:
 
god hand said:
I CAME HEAR TO KICK ASS AND CHEW BUBBLE GUM, AND I'M ALL OUT OF BUBBLE GUM.

Why is it when you got to my house the first thing you did was reach into the jar and grab out a piece of bubblegum. Did I scare you or something LAD? I know it wasn't to read the funny that comes with bazooka bubblegum!
 
99hawkins said:
There is this 16 year old kid in our gym, he brings his whey protein shakes along with him. After he completes his workouts, he sits down in the "quiet area" and drinks the stuff. First time I saw it, I thought to myself...he's far too young for that, maybe he just looks young. So, I went up to him yesterday and asked him of his age (he was at it again) he said he was 16, nearly 17. Then I asked how he affords it (Lets face it, its not cheap, especially for a school kid) he said it's where his pocket money goes.

Now, maybe I'm just being cynical and old-fashioned here, but I'm wondering if anyone else on this forum frowns upon this? I certainly do. I was 19 when I first decided to supplement.

I think that is awesome to see a 16 year old working out and drinking a protein shake! :thumb:

Would you rather see him eating McDonalds and smoking cigarettes?

btw I started using supplements when I was 15 and my dad bought them for me. He thought is was great that I wanted to lift weights and be healthy.
 
Why do everybody talk down on Micky Ds? :(
 
god hand said:
Why do everybody talk down on Micky Ds? :(
If you eat Micky Ds you will probably die or go bald. :finger:
 
god hand said:
I dont think no fourteen year old kid should be taking creatine. :finger: Do u know how much meat youll have to eat to get 5grams of creatine? 11 pounds! Dont be mistaken, theres always a difference when eat comes to supplements. Do u think a 100% Vitamin C pill is = to a cup of natural OJ with 100% vitamin C in it? Think there isnt a difference? During puberty a kid needs to do NOTHING TO STOP OR THAT MIGHT STOP HIS GROWTH!
This is a dialect of the English language I am not familiar with, yet he doest say that creatine stunts your growth. I believe that this cretin is trying to say a young person should depend on real food for good and healthy growth.
 
ForemanRules said:
The idea that the body can't tell the difference between nutrients from food and from pills is absurd.

then please explain the difference if the chemical structure is the same..

and please explain how the body can tell the difference between ascorbic acid from a multi-vitamin and from the absorbic acid from a orange
 
LAM said:
then please explain the difference if the chemcical structure is the same..
You eat only supplements for the next year and I wont have to explain it to you.....you'll be dead. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
 
ForemanRules said:
You eat only supplements for the next year and I wont have to explain it to you.....you'll be dead. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

so then I guess all of the astronauts in the international space station are dead then ? lol.. :laugh: they certainly do not eat whole foods....

NASA spent about 50 million dollars on the effects of long term nutritional supplementation, none of which were proven to be negative
 
ForemanRules said:
You eat only supplements for the next year and I wont have to explain it to you.....you'll be dead. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Maybe not best... but I've seen huge guys who's diets are 90% supps and meal replacements.
 
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LAM said:
so then I guess all of the astronauts in the international space station are dead then ? lol.. :laugh: they certainly do not eat whole foods....

NASA spent about 50 million dollars on the effects of long term nutritional supplementation, none of which were proven to be negative
So give us a detailed account of how and what Astronauts eat.....Myoplex??? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Ever hear of dehydrated food??? :laugh: :headbang: :doh:
 
ForemanRules said:
You eat only supplements for the next year and I wont have to explain it to you.....you'll be dead. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

eat McDonalds for the next 30 days and you will be dead, and that is fact.
 
He Will Die!
 
Robert DiMaggio said:
eat McDonalds for the next 30 days and you will be dead, and that is fact.
Why? I'm only 155-160 pounds. Mybody burns calories like a crackhead burn a crack pipe. My opinon only, a persons diet isnt what makes a person fat, what makes them fat is not getting off there asses! :thumb:
 
Its just protein thats no big deal.
 
ihateschoolmt said:
Creatine does not stop growth, there is nothing wrong with it.
Can you prove it? Everybody isnt equal. Shit some people can take steroids with no problem.
 
god hand said:
Can you prove it? Everybody isnt equal. Shit some people can take steroids with no problem.
Prove that creatine doesn't stunt your growth? Are you kidding me. Creatine has nothing to do with your growth plates, all it does it make you retain water and provide phosphate to your ATP.
 
ihateschoolmt said:
Prove that creatine doesn't stunt your growth? Are you kidding me. Creatine has nothing to do with your growth plates, all it does it make you retain water and provide phosphate to your ATP.
Its not about your grow plates its about your hormones.
 
god hand said:
Its not about your grow plates its about your hormones.
While creatine can boost strength and lean mass, research from the University of Leuven in Belgium has shown that it doesn't not alter anabolic hormone response to training. These hormones included growth hormone, testosterone, and cortisol. This research also might suggest that stacking creatine with prohormones or GH secretagogues might be a beneficial.---http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/animalpak22.htm
 
god hand said:
Why? I'm only 155-160 pounds. Mybody burns calories like a crackhead burn a crack pipe. My opinon only, a persons diet isnt what makes a person fat, what makes them fat is not getting off there asses! :thumb:

there is more to it than just being fat, i.e. clogged arteries.

as far as it killing you in 30 days, that is from the Super Size Me movie where he ate McDonalds 3 times per day for 30 days, his liver was shutting down (among other things) as if he were an alcoholic.
 
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