what do isolation exercises do?

[ihateschoolmt]

I was j/p with you kid... If you're really that smart you would have realized that!

btw I like that.......

Wasn't sure, nevermind then.

 

[Squaggleboggin]

Your deadlifts went up because you practiced deadlifts... Did you curls go up 50lbs. too? (ie you need to train biceps if you want to have the strongest biceps you could possibly have!) Oh that's right you wouldn't know... No they didn't. Did they get stronger? Yep... But not as much as if you'd trained them as well.

If you play sports at all you'd know strong biceps help a hell of a lot! Tackling, stripping the football, grabbing a rebound, hitting a baseball, etc... It plays a big role! More than you realize... For example: I may be the best HR hitter in softball in the state I live in. I stopped training my smaller muscle groups do to time. The result? Less distance on my HR's... Starting training my entire body again. The result? The man is back...

It can be worked yes but NOT AS WELL! in most cases. Quads you're right... Hams you're wrong... Calves? Do I need to even say it? You must work your calves directly if you want big strong calves...

Now you're showing your age by trying to put words in daddys mouth...

Work hard man and everyone will have their own opinion. What works best for me may be different than for you... Just another lesson for the day. PM me if you want to learn anything tomorrow...

I wasn't talking about sports at all. I'm talking about getting stronger in the lifts that matter and isolation work is not necessary. You misunderstood what I said and in doing so posted something that was too general, which was a mistake. I now know what you were trying to say, but you said something different in the first place and insisted that 'daddy' was correct. Please don't be another ignorant adult who thinks he's right just because he's older. There's far too many of them as it is, and it's just another pain I have to deal with.

 

[moneymaker]

If you want strong triceps you bench heavy, and if you want strong biceps you row heavy. So what's the point of doing a curl or tricpe extension ?

If you take a good look at all of these replies you will see that you guys are talking yourself in circles picking up on each little lack of technicality. If you would formulate your thread with the thought of helping out this guy that would be a great help to him. Anyway, I think that sure rowing heavy and benching heavy will build your biceps and triceps respectively but so will rowing and benching light and with high reps with the intent on making increases in both mass and strength. Just as mass and strength will increase to a certain extent with progression with both high reps and low reps so will isolation exercises to a certain muscle instead of a group. Not to say that isolation execises completely at all times hit the muscle specified but it is just another way to build muscle and in effect strength.

 

[TheCurse]

how about some pics of the massive biceps we been hearing about.

 

[Squaggleboggin]

how about some pics of the massive biceps we been hearing about.

Be careful about what you say. He may try to 'out-curl' you.

 

[TheCurse]

i hardly do curls so it wont be hard.

 

[SuperFlex]

I wasn't talking about sports at all. I'm talking about getting stronger in the lifts that matter and isolation work is not necessary. You misunderstood what I said and in doing so posted something that was too general, which was a mistake. I now know what you were trying to say, but you said something different in the first place and insisted that 'daddy' was correct. Please don't be another ignorant adult who thinks he's right just because he's older. There's far too many of them as it is, and it's just another pain I have to deal with.

Actually I understood what I was saying from the beginning and I'm glad you caught on... Supplemental lifts count. Just ask the ladies... They love big arms and a chisled chest! You're not going to get that without supplemental (direct) lifts. At least not with outstanding results... They may not make huge differences in the basic four but if you want a complete, balanced, and top dogg build you need them. Daddy knows what he's talking about... It's some kids these days that need to shut up and listen. Believe it or not kid you do learn with age. Well maybe that's stopped too...but you should. Never said you weren't an intelligent young man but remember you questioned me when I gave my opinion. You could have given your own without involving me no problem. Maybe that could be todays lesson... Direct work makes a difference. Trust me... If you want I can post my stats at 16.

 

[SuperFlex]

how about some pics of the massive biceps we been hearing about.

Today I only have 18 1/2 arms, 52 inch chest, 30 inch legs(very rarely training since 17 but my best bodypart when I do...), and a 35 inch waist. I'm far off from where I should be but such is life sometimes.

btw I never said I was the man... You've made that assumption of me. I just gave my training experience and when I train I grow... Large, fast, and very strong.

 

[TheCurse]

great numbers. but then again people make all sorts of outlandish claims around here. again, wheres the beef?

 

[SuperFlex]

great numbers. but then again people make all sorts of outlandish claims around here. again, wheres the beef?

I also have more body fat than you do. If I was as cut as you are my measurements would be less. But with muscle memory and genetics 20's could take about a year for me. I'll post pics when I feel I'm at my best. Not until then as I'm not even close to that! That's just the way I am... Expect nothing less!

 

[TheCurse]

alright man, thats cool. until then lets just keep having civil arguements

 

[SuperFlex]

alright man, thats cool. until then lets just keep having civil arguements

Sure thing. But you'll see I was always right!

 

[TheCurse]

well we havent actually 'seen' anything yet, but we take your word for it

 

[SuperFlex]

well we havent actually 'seen' anything yet, but we take your word for it