What Everyone needs to know about UGL's!!!

[s2h]

MY DAMN MEATHEAD POSTING SKILLS. CORRECTED:



I need a secretary.[/COLOR]

If I take the secretary job can someone else mow the lawn...too hot and grassy and stuff

 

[dieseljimmy]

lololol@ 19 and some change


and he seriously needs his own editor because hes always typing on his phone instead of a proper computer

Ok only the right one after a pump.

 

[ordawg1]

MY DAMN MEATHEAD POSTING SKILLS. CORRECTED:



I need a secretary.[/COLOR]

I'll take that job !!! A lil weak on " publishing skills" -but a " pretty fair" honest reputation !! -lol-OD

 

[Mike Arnold]

If you're in doubt about the quality of any lab or a lab you like, just spend a few hundred and get whatever lab you prefer and get their gear tested for yourself and if it come back legit...stick with them....then post it up for us

If you can spend a few hundred on gear that is suspect, you can spend it to see if the shit is legit!

Great thread Mike!!

Thanks...appreciate that.

Let me add one thing. I apologize if I inferred that you are dishonest, or only plug companies you are being compensated for. I do think you believe in the products you promote wholeheartedly and I have enjoyed reading your articles. You are a talented writer Mike. Although I came off that way I didn't mean to question your integrity. I was impressed how you handled the underdosed Bayer issue with PSL, and I've seen you go to bat for others as well.
No problem...and thanks, brother.

Peace.

see bold above.

 

[Mike Arnold]

I also have nothing against Mike I enjoy reading almost anything he writes and he thinks GH15 is a buffoon which means he is right about something extremely important. He also maintains a cool and respectful non defensive approach which speaks to his character.

As far as these posted "reports" I'm flummoxed.

BIG D SPEC REPORT THREAD

Originally Posted by Big D Pharma
We have run these on all my products along with thousands of blood work (serum) tests. And I mean thousands of blood work results. When i say my compounds are the best, I mean it, and have the paper work to prove it



Thousands of bloodwork? Lets do the math.
Lets assume 3000
First of all, thats well over $100,000 in lab fees.
Second - think of the time! Even at 10 samples PER DAY it would take a whole year to do that.

When someone actually gets bloodwork done and posts it in that sponsors thread and in the bloodwork section its something of an event and it gets discussed - because it doesnt happen all that often. This thread claims to have conducted more tests than everyone on all the boards put together and no one has talked about it elsewhere util now?

Not to mention the terms in the OP. To say that anything at 90% purity is the best in the business is false. 90% purity isn't even good enough for animal use. There are sponsors on this board who have never tested less than 95% and are usually over 97%. 85% for Primo E? There is a sponsor on this board whose PrimoE tested at well over 98%. I can't believe someone would brag about 85%! ts cute to blame the raws suppliers. That is clearly not the problem. Anyone can take 100% pure raw and dilute it down. Thats how 90% could easily happen. Just make 110 vials instead of 100.

Is there now supposed to be some reward for 90% purity? Laughable.

The fact that so many seem eager to jump on this ludicrous bandwagon is highly disturbing.

Lets see some bloodwork. When I started here I had to get several guys to run bloods on my Test C and E. Hardly a sale was made until those came in. I had to send my most expensive items (and several less expensive such as ancillaries) as requested by a stranger for spec testing. I didn't tell HIM what I would send, I sent what he asked because I wanted to prove that I am legit. Mission accomplished. How does this same standard not apply to anyone else? Because they posted some sort of report that was NOT generated by a mass spectromoter machine? cummon people. CUMMON,.

And you guys asking for Tren Reports? HE wont get it. He can't. The data needed to run those isn;t accessable to him even if he DID have a legit mass spectromoter (people do have them they are possible to purchase). He would need high level PhD department head chemistry library access to even start LOOKING for it.

I have plenty of customers. I don't even advertise anymore. I have no need to go to war with a company I don/t know. HOWEVER it truly disgusts me to see faked spec reports posted. Real ones are bad (dangerous) enough but if the last bastion of truth we have to test gear is science you better believe I will point out the bad and fake science every damn time I see it. It discredits us all and further puts everyone who buys into it right on the "I got scammed" ship. I've been here too long and care about you guys too much to stand by and see that happen to you.

If what you say is true (about fake mas spec reports), then I am a bit baffled given the following. As you all know, I selected this company based on its quality control measures and positive feedback, which is how we should select UGL for employment/purchase. More than anything, I was impressed that he was actually posting mass spec tests (I know AY doesn't like them being posted, but customers do appreciate them), as they are the gold-standard of product testing. Prior to officially coming on board with Big D, I specifically approached him about these mass spec results and let him know right up front that valid mass spec test results were a sales goldmine (as they should be) and if I were to begin working for him, my full intention was to spread the word and increase public awareness of these test results. To neglect using valid test results as a sales tool would have been foolish, espacially when so few others publically post results. From a sales perspective, it was a no-brainer. The goal of any decent, ethical rep is to highlight a company's strong points and let the customer make decisions for themselves. That is exactly what I did in this thread.

With nothing to hide, I came out with everything right up front. By doing so, if it is eventually determined that these results are indeed fake, well...then that is just business suicide, especially because he knew what I was going to do. It just doesn't make sense for him to bring me on board knowing this. It seems to me that if someone is posting fake results, they would not want them being posted in front of everyone...but I guess stranger things have happened. I have a few trusted people I can contact about this matter, who can confirm or deny the claim of them being fake. Hopefully, they will post in this thread. At this point, since I cannot read mass spec reports (few people on the boards can), it is my duty to continue supporting Big D until this matter finds full resolution (confirmed by mutiple unbiased people). I would be quite dissappointed if these results end up being fake, but either way, this thread will have been a benefit to the board and in my opinion, is further affirmation that my approach was the right one.

Regarding the blood tests, I sent a PM to Big D a couple of days ago (pre-thread), asking if I could post them on on the board in order to confirm the claim, so I am one step ahead of you (AY & Jersey Devil) on that one. Unfortunately, I have been communicating with Big D solely through PM..and I think he only checks his pm's here a couple times a week, baed on previous response time. I do know he is closed for the weekend and will be open tomorrow, so hopefully he will be available for comment then.

 

[VictorZ06]

This is getting a little out of hand. Lets face it....if you are looking for a bottle of tren, you can't go to your pharmacy with a script and pick it up because IT DOES NOT EXIST. So, you have two options. Get the pellets and make the shit yourself, or use a UGL that makes it for you? In most cases, tren is fuckn tren. It's not hard to make, and most of the tren I have tried from good labs all are almost the same. Some a little stronger than others, but not by much. I'm not going to sit down and make my own....I don't have the time or the space to do that shit.

And since I have been using BigDs products for over 5 years (when he was private), I have been VERY happy with both his service and products. I always get blood work done and I've been in this game long enough to tell a good product from a bunk or junk product. All my test comes from a pharmacy....but things like tren, EQ, TNE, etc., I turn to my bro BigD. I've used his orals many times, but I get them for next to nothing from pharmacies in Europe....same with my proviron, T3, adex, aromasin, caber, nolva, clomid, etc. All that stuff I get from a real pharmacy.

So pick a lab of your choice, someone that you trust and you are happy with....and be done with it. Those doubting BigD's products are those who compete for his services. Like I said, I back BigD 100000% because I have been using him for more years than I have fingers....and his shit is the bomb. For those of you who go elsewhere.....you are missing out big time. BigD time! LOL



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[s2h]

I'll take that job !!! A lil weak on " publishing skills" -but a " pretty fair" honest reputation !! -lol-OD

Jobs filled....I work for lower wages and only require a pb&j sand which and milk for lunch..

 

[Mike Arnold]

This is getting a little out of hand. Lets face it....if you are looking for a bottle of tren, you can't go to your pharmacy with a script and pick it up because IT DOES NOT EXIST. So, you have two options. Get the pellets and make the shit yourself, or use a UGL that makes it for you? In most cases, tren is fuckn tren. It's not hard to make, and most of the tren I have tried from good labs all are almost the same. Some a little stronger than others, but not by much. I'm not going to sit down and make my own....I don't have the time or the space to do that shit.

And since I have been using BigDs products for over 5 years (when he was private), I have been VERY happy with both his service and products. I always get blood work done and I've been in this game long enough to tell a good product from a bunk or junk product. All my test comes from a pharmacy....but things like tren, EQ, TNE, etc., I turn to my bro BigD. I've used his orals many times, but I get them for next to nothing from pharmacies in Europe....same with my proviron, T3, adex, aromasin, caber, nolva, clomid, etc. All that stuff I get from a real pharmacy.

So pick a lab of your choice, someone that you trust and you are happy with....and be done with it. Those doubting BigD's products are those who compete for his services. Like I said, I back BigD 100000% because I have been using him for more years than I have fingers....and his shit is the bomb. For those of you who go elsewhere.....you are missing out big time. BigD time! LOL



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These are the type of comments I have been hearing from those who have used Big D's gear--they all say it is great.

 

[SheriV]

Ok only the right one after a pump.

Jimmy showed me what he meant by 19 manly inches last night

I retract my earlier statement

still both handsome and charming

 

[blergs.]

All the scenarios you gave...those are expected from any good sponsor. I expect it. Does it always happen? Of course not, but it should. From everything I have heard, their customer service appears to be very good, BUT...as I continue working for Big D, if I begin to witness anything other than what I believe to be ethical business practices and high quality products, I will not be slient about it...just as I was not silent about PSL when they went south. Yoy can never know what any source/compnay will do in the future, but you take things as they come. That is how people build a good reputation. They call it how they see it...good or bad. I have done so up to this point and will continue to do so. I say the following with humility, bt this is one of the reasons so many people listen to what have to say. Stuff like this doesn't happen by accident.

I have been with IML for years and they have proven themseves to be a respescted and trusted supplier of legal products. At this point, I back them 100%, as do many others...and I will continue to do so, as long as they continue doing what they're doing. I expect they will. IML is the only supplement company I have ever worked for. I have worked for a couple peptide companies...and as many people do when something better comes along, I eventually moved on, but not because I witnessed anything unethical. I still speak highly of both companies and left on good terms. That is pretty much the extent of my dealings with UGL, peptide, and supplement companies. So, inferring thaty I only praise those companies because I work for them is blatantly untrue. I have hand-picked every company I have worked for specifically because I liked what I saw. There was only one company that approached me, that I said yes to...one. I addition, I often OFTEN praise other companies of all sorts, just as I previously did in this very thread! If anything you said pisses me off, it is this...because it is straight up bullshit.

As far your "look who's calling the kettle black" comment, that comment was all-inclusive. I was referring just as much to myself as to anyone else.

Of course, this thread was a plug for Big D. I said so myself in this very thread! Also, while it is obvious that I recieve gear in return for my work, I won't lie about anything just to get gear...and in truth, I already have enough gear to last me at LEAST 5 years (no exageration). I just don't like to see my supply dwindle...LOL. I decided to go with Bif D because I liked what I was seeing and hearing. My evaluation of the company will continue as long as I am with it. If I saw something I didn't like, I never would have worked for him, regardless of gear or $$$.

So, I appreciate your points, but several of them I already made myself. The difference betwen me and a lot of reps is I will put everything out there...and some people don't like that. In doing so, if information comes out that ws not previously known about a company...either good or bad, then I consider myself to have done my job, regardless of whether this means I keep my employment or not. I consider my service to the public greater than getting a few hundred dollars in gear...and my MASSIVE amount of public posts, which exeeds almost anyone who has ever posted in the BBinbg community, proves that. The amount of free information/help I have provided is quite large. I do this for fun more than anything...and I will never compromise my reputation for anyone, especially not a bit of gear. I have been lied to in the past by some companies...and when I found out about it, the end result wasn't good...for the company. Any company I rep for should know that if they have something to hide or they feel the need to lie to me about something, they should not hire me to begin with...because I let it all out...and this often brings heated discusssion, but in most cases the end result is good, whether it means a UGL ends up being confirmed as honest and ethical...or dishonest and unethical. Either way, the community wins.

With that said, everything I have read & heard about Big D so far is positive...an if that ever changes (as proven by legitimate evidence), then my pubic opinion will change with it.

Well said man! I am the EXACT same way! I too have alot of stock.... its an insult to me for people to think i would mess with my integrity for some gear..... nothing wrong with helping a good source out, and if something shady happens ill be posting about it too!

 

[blergs.]

This is getting a little out of hand. Lets face it....if you are looking for a bottle of tren, you can't go to your pharmacy with a script and pick it up because IT DOES NOT EXIST. So, you have two options. Get the pellets and make the shit yourself, or use a UGL that makes it for you? In most cases, tren is fuckn tren. It's not hard to make, and most of the tren I have tried from good labs all are almost the same. Some a little stronger than others, but not by much. I'm not going to sit down and make my own....I don't have the time or the space to do that shit.

And since I have been using BigDs products for over 5 years (when he was private), I have been VERY happy with both his service and products. I always get blood work done and I've been in this game long enough to tell a good product from a bunk or junk product. All my test comes from a pharmacy....but things like tren, EQ, TNE, etc., I turn to my bro BigD. I've used his orals many times, but I get them for next to nothing from pharmacies in Europe....same with my proviron, T3, adex, aromasin, caber, nolva, clomid, etc. All that stuff I get from a real pharmacy.

So pick a lab of your choice, someone that you trust and you are happy with....and be done with it. Those doubting BigD's products are those who compete for his services. Like I said, I back BigD 100000% because I have been using him for more years than I have fingers....and his shit is the bomb. For those of you who go elsewhere.....you are missing out big time. BigD time! LOL



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Good lord how do you lift!?!?!? :-O

hahaha just fukin with you!

 

[blergs.]

Jimmy showed me what he meant by 19 manly inches last night

I retract my earlier statement

still both handsome and charming

I cant top that..... but i can hit it VERY well with my 8 give good oral too ;-) opps this is not the AG section....

 

[SheriV]

lolz

I like a good derailing of topic

 

[Valkyrie]

Resume highlights
6'2 260 19 and some change in the shelves
No sexual harrassmemt training needed
Types less the 50 words a minute
Not holding a grudge that I didnt get "the" email
Likes dolph lungren.

ROID, XYZ, WOR and Saney references available.(good luck finding them)

You should have gotten an email I shall send a PM. and you're hired. Pay is nil and no shirts allowed.

If what you say is true (about fake mas spec reports), then I am a bit baffled given the following. As you all know, I selected this company based on its quality control measures and positive feedback, which is how we should select UGL for employment/purchase. More than anything, I was impressed that he was actually posting mass spec tests (I know AY doesn't like them being posted, but customers do appreciate them), as they are the gold-standard of product testing. Prior to officially coming on board with Big D, I specifically approached him about these mass spec results and let him know right up front that valid mass spec test results were a sales goldmine (as they should be) and if I were to begin working for him, my full intention was to spread the word and increase public awareness of these test results. To neglect using valid test results as a sales tool would have been foolish, espacially when so few others publically post results. From a sales perspective, it was a no-brainer. The goal of any decent, ethical rep is to highlight a company's strong points and let the customer make decisions for themselves. That is exactly what I did in this thread.

With nothing to hide, I came out with everything right up front. By doing so, if it is eventually determined that these results are indeed fake, well...then that is just business suicide, especially because he knew what I was going to do. It just doesn't make sense for him to bring me on board knowing this. It seems to me that if someone is posting fake results, they would not want them being posted in front of everyone...but I guess stranger things have happened. I have a few trusted people I can contact about this matter, who can confirm or deny the claim of them being fake. Hopefully, they will post in this thread. At this point, since I cannot read mass spec reports (few people on the boards can), it is my duty to continue supporting Big D until this matter finds full resolution (confirmed by mutiple unbiased people). I would be quite dissappointed if these results end up being fake, but either way, this thread will have been a benefit to the board and in my opinion, is further affirmation that my approach was the right one.

Regarding the blood tests, I sent a PM to Big D a couple of days ago (pre-thread), asking if I could post them on on the board in order to confirm the claim, so I am one step ahead of you (AY & Jersey Devil) on that one. Unfortunately, I have been communicating with Big D solely through PM..and I think he only checks his pm's here a couple times a week, baed on previous response time. I do know he is closed for the weekend and will be open tomorrow, so hopefully he will be available for comment then.

I do not question YOUR intent in any way. I fully believe you are coming from a legit and honorable place. I also know the extreme lengths some labs go to in order to scam people. We underestimate the level of deviousness possible and they underestimate the intelligence and massive years of spec experience possessed on this board.

 

[independent]

This is why i only use fda gmp approved gear from wp.

 

[Bout2getReal]

Lmao at this post. It's like a bunch of thieves in a room wondering who stole the others wallet and calling each other thieves - pure comedy. Keep it up its entertaining as Fuck. No my mass spec is better than yours. Nuh-uh mines better. No I'm more respected and honest. Nuh uh I'm am. No body believes this shit except for the noobs anyways. Go back to posting nudes of yourself to sell gear now at least thats an honest approach and for the other parties stop trying to one up everyone. There sponsors on here that sell dirty as gear but they are cheap and they make a living and have great following so don't sweat it. If your gear is good it will sell. Now why don't big d and uncle z just run a train on AY and call it good. I'd jump in but my pee pee is too small to Fuck a hallway. I like mine a little tighter. Ill watch and take pics if you guys want. Hey maybe that will sell the your gears. Just say that's how you mass spec. Throw in a cameo by WP and you guys are good. All know best product. All see AY and mike best in fucKy fucK mass spec talk. You buy now.

 

[independent]

As confucius once said,

" He who receives most free gear posts long paragraph"

 

[dieseljimmy]

Lmao at this post. It's like a bunch of thieves in a room wondering who stole the others wallet and calling each other thieves - pure comedy. Keep it up its entertaining as Fuck. No my mass spec is better than yours. Nuh-uh mines better. No I'm more respected and honest. Nuh uh I'm am. No body believes this shit except for the noobs anyways. Go back to posting nudes of yourself to sell gear now at least thats an honest approach and for the other parties stop trying to one up everyone. There sponsors on here that sell dirty as gear but they are cheap and they make a living and have great following so don't sweat it. If your gear is good it will sell. Now why don't big d and uncle z just run a train on AY and call it good. I'd jump in but my pee pee is too small to Fuck a hallway. I like mine a little tighter. Ill watch and take pics if you guys want. Hey maybe that will sell the your gears. Just say that's how you mass spec. Throw in a cameo by WP and you guys are good. All know best product. All see AY and mike best in fucKy fucK mass spec talk. You buy now.

^^^ off my christmas card list

 

[SheriV]

Lmao at this post. It's like a bunch of thieves in a room wondering who stole the others wallet and calling each other thieves - pure comedy. Keep it up its entertaining as Fuck. No my mass spec is better than yours. Nuh-uh mines better. No I'm more respected and honest. Nuh uh I'm am. No body believes this shit except for the noobs anyways. Go back to posting nudes of yourself to sell gear now at least thats an honest approach and for the other parties stop trying to one up everyone. There sponsors on here that sell dirty as gear but they are cheap and they make a living and have great following so don't sweat it. If your gear is good it will sell. Now why don't big d and uncle z just run a train on AY and call it good. I'd jump in but my pee pee is too small to Fuck a hallway. I like mine a little tighter. Ill watch and take pics if you guys want. Hey maybe that will sell the your gears. Just say that's how you mass spec. Throw in a cameo by WP and you guys are good. All know best product. All see AY and mike best in fucKy fucK mass spec talk. You buy now.

yeah, I'll take fire for this but ..this is unnecessarily nasty..and NOT AG

you're right..everyone has their own following so why tear down other sponsors or reps? there's no need...
I've hotly defended some of AMA's shit on other forums in the past .... and I will always stand up for a source that I don't think is a crook but I've flat out lost respect for your crew right now not that amounts to one hill of fucks to give but maybe it'll give you something to think about; about how you conduct yourself out of your own forum or AG.

 

[theCaptn']

Lmao at this post. It's like a bunch of thieves in a room wondering who stole the others wallet and calling each other thieves - pure comedy. Keep it up its entertaining as Fuck. No my mass spec is better than yours. Nuh-uh mines better. No I'm more respected and honest. Nuh uh I'm am. No body believes this shit except for the noobs anyways. Go back to posting nudes of yourself to sell gear now at least thats an honest approach and for the other parties stop trying to one up everyone. There sponsors on here that sell dirty as gear but they are cheap and they make a living and have great following so don't sweat it. If your gear is good it will sell. Now why don't big d and uncle z just run a train on AY and call it good. I'd jump in but my pee pee is too small to Fuck a hallway. I like mine a little tighter. Ill watch and take pics if you guys want. Hey maybe that will sell the your gears. Just say that's how you mass spec. Throw in a cameo by WP and you guys are good. All know best product. All see AY and mike best in fucKy fucK mass spec talk. You buy now.

Disappointing post. We expect a higher standard from from sponsors and reps.

 

[ordawg1]

Not cool at all-I think someone owes a huge apology-OD

 

[Bout2getReal]

yeah, I'll take fire for this but ..this is unnecessarily nasty..and NOT AG

you're right..everyone has their own following so why tear down other sponsors or reps? there's no need...
I've hotly defended some of AMA's shit on other forums in the past .... and I will always stand up for a source that I don't think is a crook but I've flat out lost respect for your crew right now not that amounts to one hill of fucks to give but maybe it'll give you something to think about; about how you conduct yourself out of your own forum or AG.

Well first of all Sheri ill start out by saying that you and the Captn have my respects. If i don't have yours im ok with that. I know how my posts come off at times. How i feel about you guys doesn't change. I didnt mean anything against you guys. As far as the crew goes. These are my thoughts and my thoughts only. Theres only so much bullshit you can hear and take without calling bullshit. All these people come in here claiming this and that and most of it is bullshit. Thats all i was saying. This back and forth gets old. Im cool with everyone doing their own thing but everyone has to get involved in everyone else s shit to show they are superior so they can try and peddle gear. I don't apologize much but if i offended you i apologize. It wasnt meant for you.

 

[heavyiron]

Group hugs?

 

[OfficerFarva]

Group hugs?

Dutch rudders for all!

 

[JerseyDevil]

Lmao at this post. It's like a bunch of thieves in a room wondering who stole the others wallet and calling each other thieves - pure comedy. Keep it up its entertaining as Fuck. No my mass spec is better than yours. Nuh-uh mines better. No I'm more respected and honest. Nuh uh I'm am. No body believes this shit except for the noobs anyways. Go back to posting nudes of yourself to sell gear now at least thats an honest approach and for the other parties stop trying to one up everyone. There sponsors on here that sell dirty as gear but they are cheap and they make a living and have great following so don't sweat it. If your gear is good it will sell. Now why don't big d and uncle z just run a train on AY and call it good. I'd jump in but my pee pee is too small to Fuck a hallway. I like mine a little tighter. Ill watch and take pics if you guys want. Hey maybe that will sell the your gears. Just say that's how you mass spec. Throw in a cameo by WP and you guys are good. All know best product. All see AY and mike best in fucKy fucK mass spec talk. You buy now.

Totally uncalled for.

 

[Bout2getReal]

Lol. You already commented. I'm off your Christmas list.

 

[dieseljimmy]

Lol. You already commented. I'm off your Christmas list.

Me and the jersey devil are separate animals. Jd dj ill give you some rope. Somedays I would like to be jd... his wife is hot!

 

[dieseljimmy]

Group hugs?

I usually have an erection... if you guys are ok with that... im going to stand behind AY

 

[tommygunz]

Wow, I just waded through 118 posts on everything but the kitchen sink, 15 minutes of my fleeting life I'll never get back. So since I've pissed that away I might as well waste another 5 minutes.

Mike, you are a very well respected authority on AAS and I've been reading everything you write for many years and will continue to do so. So when you say that you feel good about getting behind the spot light UGL, I believe it. I don't always agree with what you say but I do believe it's your honest opinion.

Victor, you have been around forever and are a level headed, even keeled brother that I have had many good convos with. You are a straight shooter in my book.

Farva, you are a new rep and I know how that feels. You have a job to do, we all know this.

Pit Crew, well you are just a fucking asshole. Some how you make this work for you in your business, I'm still baffled by that one, but rock on, apparently it's working.

Personal observations over, onto a few facts. Cut the lights, cue the slide projector, yup I'm that oldskool.

1. Source discussion is not allowed in the Anabolic Zone


See says so right there...hmm what does this mean. My take is that the mods, supermods and admins in this thread don't give two shits about the rules....interesting. Doesn't really mean dick, but yet still interesting. I know Farvas incentive, he's a rep that's paid to bump his sponsors goods. The rest of you really should know better. Fuck it so should he, if you can't read you have no business doing the job. OK let's move on.

A little history on our topic of discussion, I've been around long enough and talked to him enough to know what the "D" means, so this is no snow job. He used to be a member here and that's all I'm going to say, that got in a little bind with the admin over, let's say private sales...wink, wink. So screw it he went on to bigger and better things, the American dream so to speak. Kudos, because he is a good guy and has always been honest with me, gotta give him respect there. The last time I will bring him up in this long winded rambling, thanks Mike you taught me well.

Personally, and it's just that, my opinion, that we are all wasting our time in this thread, kind of like a bunch of fleas arguing over the dog. There are so many people to peddle gear to, who gives one shit about this UGL over that UGL. It is natural selection around here, the strong survive and the weak die. Period. If you are bullshit, well it's sayonara and if you are legit you are G2G. The masses will be heard and if you think it's the other way around you are just in denial.

This concludes my portion of the program, please feel free to resume your bickering and back biting. Oh and feel free to slander, slur and drag my name through the mud. Apparently that's what we are all here for, especially you Pit Crew, still can't figure that one out.

Please excuse me now as I have to wander over to AG and check out Ich's latest addition to Barely Legal and see if Lord john has posted anymore pics of Miley's ass. TG

 

[VictorZ06]

Victor, you have been around forever and are a level headed, even keeled brother that I have had many good convos with. You are a straight shooter in my book.

1. Source discussion is not allowed in the Anabolic Zone

Thanks bro, right back at ya. The feeling is mutual as you got your shit in order and know your stuff. My hat comes off to you for saying how it is. I would have closed this thread, but since an admin got into it and became aware of it...if he wanted it closed, he would have closed it. This thread is doing more harm than good to ALL of us. We are drawing attention to where we least want it....if you guys think about it long enough, I'm sure most of you would agree.




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