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what gives that insanely grainy look??

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Either way, they are either depleting or restricting any excess they are consuming or have (in or on their body).

Maybe my wording or lack of specific words confused you (in that instance it's my fault for not looking over my post), but we are good to go now.
 
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Incorrect re water - u actually drink 1.5 - 2 gals ED right up til 12-48 hours before show. Ur body gets use to flushing it so then when u restrict it and have none to flush it is pulled out of ur skin and sub q area into ur muscles if ur carbs and sodium are right. The human body really is an amazing thing with how fast and effective it adjusts to changes and inputs.
That's how you do it but I know for a fact that the guy I know measured small amounts out. He measured out everything
 
No it's not halo and wini and masteon and low carb followed by high carb loading... it's test and big macs.
 
No it's not halo and wini and masteon and low carb followed by high carb loading... it's test and big macs.

^^^
Did it for the lulz
 
Genetics. Period! End of thread lol. Seriously you either have it or you don't
It's not just genetics... it's hard work, decication, and knowing how to manipulate your body... I have some of the worst genetics possible(other than my calves..I'd have to say those are partly genentics), but i have striated glutes 3-5weeks out from a show... before I deplete... and I am grainy EVERY time I do a show!! It comes down to doing everything right from the get-go when you start your comp diet til the comp is over... I honestly believe that any bodybuilder is capable of obtaining that look with DEDICATION, HARD WORK, AND SOMEONE HELPING THEM THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.... Too many people listen to guys that haven't the first clue of what you should look like on stage, telling them they are ready for comp(when they are at 7%+bf..)... Of course that's what you want to hear... but it isn't the truth!!! Bodybuilders need to find the harshest critics when it comes time to do a show... and listen to them! The harshest critic is the one that will guide you to that 1st place trophy, not the random guy in the gym telling you that you are ready for the Olympia.... They will pick you apart till you are forced to fix whatever the problem is(cause most of us competing bodybuilders are perfectionists, and if someone tells us we look like shit and we aren't ready to step on stage... We are going to take a closer look at things and find a solution!!)... But of course, in the midst of feeling like we are starving to death, eating food we hate, and the countless hours of cardio... If someone tells us two weeks into the diet that we are shredded beyond belief... hey, we're gonna ease up on the cardio a bit, get a littlle more lax with the diet, etc.....

I keep covered in the gym when dieting, just so I don't get those comments... I don't want them!!! I have the few people that will tell me the truth, and that's who sees me when I'm getting ready for a show!!! And that's why I come in on top of my game!
 
^ This

It really is hardcore and takes a certain amount of insanity...

In the last 3 months I have had none of the following -

Alcohol
Dairy - milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese
Soft drinks
Juice
Bread
Granola
Fruit - bananas, apples, oranges
My favs - PBJs, pizza, Reese's Cups lol

After a couple months u kinda get numb and just go through the daily motions.
 
^ This

It really is hardcore and takes a certain amount of insanity...

In the last 3 months I have had none of the following -

Alcohol
Dairy - milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese
Soft drinks
Juice
Bread
Granola
Fruit - bananas, apples, oranges
My favs - PBJs, pizza, Reese's Cups lol

After a couple months u kinda get numb and just go through the daily motions.

right there with u bro! good work
 
^ This

It really is hardcore and takes a certain amount of insanity...

In the last 3 months I have had none of the following -

Alcohol
Dairy - milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese
Soft drinks
Juice
Bread
Granola
Fruit - bananas, apples, oranges
My favs - PBJs, pizza, Reese's Cups lol

After a couple months u kinda get numb and just go through the daily motions.
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this is so true,everyday people can't even come close to relate to preparing the right way for a contest
 
^ This

It really is hardcore and takes a certain amount of insanity...

In the last 3 months I have had none of the following -

Alcohol
Dairy - milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese
Soft drinks
Juice
Bread
Granola
Fruit - bananas, apples, oranges
My favs - PBJs, pizza, Reese's Cups lol

After a couple months u kinda get numb and just go through the daily motions.

damn! That's sacrifice and dedication.
I don't compete. I'd jump off the roof without those things lol.
 
damn! That's sacrifice and dedication.
I don't compete. I'd jump off the roof without those things lol.

Done it as well. It's a bitch, but like GC said, you become "numb" and just eat to live.
 
damn! That's sacrifice and dedication.
I don't compete. I'd jump off the roof without those things lol.

It sucks ass(the diet...and all the cardio) but damn it's worth it when you look down the lineup on stage and know you won before the posing starts!!!
 
how do you diet down naturally w/out losing muscle mass? I tend to get small
 
damn! That's sacrifice and dedication.
I don't compete. I'd jump off the roof without those things lol.


you lose your desire for it.. I dont intend to put any of that back in my diet except for bananas and peanutbutter for a cheat meal when im bulking.


havent had a soda/candy in 8 years, no alchohol for 6 BLAM!
 
you can do it naturally too... you do stand a bigger chance of losing some muscle while doing so, but not too much if done correctly.... It doesn't really matter if you are natty or not, you're going to feel like you are shriveling up to nothing when you diet like that... the funny thing... to the avg person, you look WAY bigger when very lean... regardless that you feel 'tiny'
 
^ This

It really is hardcore and takes a certain amount of insanity...

In the last 3 months I have had none of the following -

Alcohol
Dairy - milk, cheese, yogurt, cottage cheese
Soft drinks
Juice
Bread
Granola
Fruit - bananas, apples, oranges
My favs - PBJs, pizza, Reese's Cups lol

After a couple months u kinda get numb and just go through the daily motions.

I feel your pain. Even cheat meals fuck with your mind. You start measuring everything.

My "supplements" are almost non-existent. T3, oxy elite, trt dose of test and adex. I'm here to tell you that drugs are not accomplishing my look for me. It's cardio, strict diet and dedication. Lifting even when your sore as hell, cardio every morning, and a coach that knows what the hell he is doing.

IMHO
 
you can do it naturally too... you do stand a bigger chance of losing some muscle while doing so, but not too much if done correctly.... It doesn't really matter if you are natty or not, you're going to feel like you are shriveling up to nothing when you diet like that... the funny thing... to the avg person, you look WAY bigger when very lean... regardless that you feel 'tiny'

^^soo true. I get more compliments on my size now than I did when I was 30 pounds heavier. It's a mind fuck for sure. I see myself as skinny and tiny, but everyone else thinks I look bigger. I'll go with their opinion as I'm hoping that's how the judges will see it.
 
I feel your pain. Even cheat meals fuck with your mind. You start measuring everything.

My "supplements" are almost non-existent. T3, oxy elite, trt dose of test and adex. I'm here to tell you that drugs are not accomplishing my look for me. It's cardio, strict diet and dedication. Lifting even when your sore as hell, cardio every morning, and a coach that knows what the hell he is doing.

IMHO

is that morning cardio fasted? do people still do that shit?
 
You guys are all talking about contest shape.... The thread topic was "insanely grainy condition" and no one here has that so.... No one here knows lol. There has only been a hand full of people to ever achieve that type of condition
 
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You guys are all talking about contest shape.... The thread topic was "insanely grainy condition" and no one here has that so.... No one here knows lol. There has only been a hand full of people to ever achieve that type of condition

bro, you don't have that year round... it comes from being in 'contest condition'... you see pics of pros like that in the magazines all the time, but it's cause the pics were taken around contest time..... anyone who has been down around 3%bf and dry, with the right depletion and carb load probably has had that...
 
Just because u compete BRO doesnt mean ur grainy lol!!! Branch and Evan are the only grainy ones now. Just because you are shredded doesn't mean your INSANELY GRAINY. I'm competing as well bro
 
Just because u compete BRO doesnt mean ur grainy lol!!! Branch and Evan are the only grainy ones now. Just because you are shredded doesn't mean your INSANELY GRAINY. I'm competing as well bro
I AM grainy every single time I step on stage....
 
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