WHAT SEPERATES US FROM THEM (great read)

[gr81]

you missed the point of the whole article if you think that it was written to gloat over the couch potatoes, it wasn't written for them, it was written for all the T-Men and T-vixens out there that feel the same way as this guy. His article may sound arrogant to those who haven't gone through what he has gone through, nut you must realize that he is just illustrating how your confidence can change and what a sense of accomplishment you can feel after you have taken the step from being normal old Bob to a T-man. You do feel better than the average person b/c you have taken your life into your own hands and accomlished something and continue to strive to accomplish bigger goals. If that is arrogance than I would rather take that than the other option!

 

[dankjones]

If getting built is the greatest accomplishment in your life, then it is a sad life indeed.

 

[gr81]

Who are you to say that. You have no idea how many ways your life improves as a result of bodybuilding. BB is a 24/7 journey, there are no breaks. Between the training, dieting, recovery time, and most importantly the research it takes to achieve a great physique, how can you say that isn't a great accomplishment. It teaches you how to set short and long term goals for yourself, it gives you an ever growing sense of dicipline and achievement as well. Not only that but everything that applies in BB to be successful can be applied to succeed in life as well. You can lie to others about your motivaion and how hard you worked, but at the end of the day you come home and look at yourself in the mirror and say you didn't take any shortcuts and that you worked as hard ad you can, then that is a satisfying feeling, a feeling you get when you are confident that you will accomplish the goals you have set for yourself. It is alot more complicated than just getting built. You can't lie to the man in the mirror, which I'm sure you do alot there DANK. I can speak for myself when I say that I do something every day to better myself as a result of BB, what do you do huh? You can sit there on the internet and judge people, judge them for something in which you have no knowledge of, but I tell you what DANK, the biggest payoff for me will be when I run into clowns like you out on a date (if you have ever been on one) and YOUR girl size ME up and then sizes you up and slips me her number. ha ha ha. Or maybe that look the day that you decide to indeed to come in a gym for the first time and you can't take your newby eyes off me in the corner squatting b/c I make you feel like less of a man next to me. Then it will all be worth it.

 

[dankjones]

Stop giving in to your weakness and making excuses. You are neglecting your mind.

Learn what it means to be a real man.

Hint: It means more than devoting all your time and energy to something that in the end is meaningless. How does what you do make you better than someone who puts just as much time and effort into getting, say, a philosophy degree... and of the two which is more usefull/less?


Are you just compensating for having a weak mind? You don't have to choose you know. You can have both, you just have to want it bad enough.

Edit: You wanted to know what I've done. This year I re-learned Algebra 1 & 2 and have started teaching myself College Algebra. I'm taking the class next semester, but I plan on being able to pass the class the day I walk in the door.

 

[racoon02]

This is a body building board, not a 'college algebra' board. Coming on here and flaming somone for feeling good about changing their body... your just asking for flames. Are you here to body build, and learn stuff about lifting weights/dieting, or make pointless / stupid / inane remarks about people on this board. And please, dont come on here bragging about taking a simple trivial begginners college course. HELLO www.ironmagazineforums.com not www.IRSMARTANDKNOWTEHMATHGIVMEACOOKIEPLZ.com

 

[eskimo515]

Originally posted by gr81
Who are you to say that. You have no idea how many ways your life improves as a result of bodybuilding. BB is a 24/7 journey, there are no breaks. Between the training, dieting, recovery time, and most importantly the research it takes to achieve a great physique, how can you say that isn't a great accomplishment. I can speak for myself when I say that I do something every day to better myself as a result of BB

Gr8, that is so true and brilliant. I am sure that everyone on this site is like a mad scientist, carefully plotting out food, workouts, suppls, to make sure that everything is just right. I am not ashamed of it, in fact, I sing it from the mountain top. BB changed my life and, God willing, added years to my life because I was on the road of the guy in the article before I stepped into a gym.

And Dank, if you think this is so meaningless, what the hell are you doing on this site. If you are truly coming to learn, then let me school you. For most of the people on this board, health and fitness is as much an important role in their lives as going to work and taking care of their families. For some people, it is their dream to step on a stage someday. By saying that this meaningless, you are crapping on not only people's lifestyles, but their dreams. And those, my friend, are fighting words.

 

[DanK]

Uh, I just want to clarify that dankjones and I are not the same person, I happen to agree completely with the article. I don't remember right now but I believe the article actually said something about how bob types (was that the couch potatoes name?) would probably be insulted by this, and I think they should be, I have no pitty for anyone who says something like 'I need to work out' and then doesn't, they know they need to work out, that is why they say it, but they lack the willpower to actually do it.

As for people here obsessing about body building and totally disregarding their minds for their bodies, that's pretty ignorant, very few of the people here just body build, and those that do probably have plenty of college backing them up (even if it's in nutrition and health stuff). As for the bulk of people here who body build but don't do it for a living, obviously they have other jobs, and from what I've seen most of them have some pretty solid educations (not me, I'm self taught).

 

[gr81]

Originally posted by dankjones
Stop giving in to your weakness and making excuses. You are neglecting your mind.

Learn what it means to be a real man.

Hint: It means more than devoting all your time and energy to something that in the end is meaningless. How does what you do make you better than someone who puts just as much time and effort into getting, say, a philosophy degree... and of the two which is more usefull/less?


Are you just compensating for having a weak mind? You don't have to choose you know. You can have both, you just have to want it bad enough.

Who ever said anything about having a weak mind, you are just assuming that just because I am devoted to one thing that you can't be successful at another. You are operating off a preconceived stereotype that you have of BBs so how smart does that make you? First off asshole I bet I know a hell of alot more about the ins and out of the biological functions of the human body then you ever will. Secondly the way I can talk about endocrinology would make me sound like a chemist to you junior so don't try and give me that meat head bullshit. I am reading and researching information for at least an hour a day every day so I can be more knowledgable and achieve my goals, and you want to try and impress us with some basic understanding of algebra. What is more practical than having an understanding of how what you put in your body is going to effect you. How are you going to try and claim to be a real man when your test levels are probably around the same as an old womans from the way you talk. Why don't you go join some femminists rights forum and leave this one alone you clown.

 

[dankjones]

I never tried to impress anyone, you asked a question, and I answered it.

I'm not referring to "book learning". That has absolutely nothing to do with my point. My point is about strength of character, which is lacking in anyone who thinks working out is as important as taking care of their families.

I guess I confused this site with "readingcomprehension.com".

 

[gr81]

Originally posted by dankjones
I never tried to impress anyone, you asked a question, and I answered it.I'm not referring to "book learning". That has absolutely nothing to do with my point. My point is about strength of character, which is lacking in anyone who thinks working out is as important as taking care of their families.

No, I didn't ask you a question, you insulted everybody on this site and got on here talking a bunch of shit like you are so high and mighty and we are just a bunch of meatheads who don't have their priorites in life right. Who said anything about training being more important than taking care of ones family? You have got some issues man, for you to get on here and start putting words in our mouths just so you can start an argue with someone. Get over yourself fool. I don't have a family so is it OK with you if I continue to weight train? ha ha. You don't even have a fuckin point, so stop trying to kick up dust. Who are you to say that what we are doing with our lives isn't right or important enough. If your trippin then it must be you I am talkin about, if it ain't you, then don't trip!

 

[DanK]

Because dankjones had the indecency to have a similar name to mine, and then declare the article that spawned this thread to be egotistical or something, I got curious, to see if I could find the reasoning behind his anti-this thread views, to understand how he could read it and assume that despite the inspirational tone of the article, he could somehow feel that the article was insulting, and it's come to my attention, the names in the article have been changed, dankjones is none other than the infamous bob.

And with that discovery comes the real question, in a room full of birds, why would you jump up and scream "I'M THE WORM!"

 

[firestorm]

Originally posted by dankjones
If getting built is the greatest accomplishment in your life, then it is a sad life indeed.

Getting built as you put it is only the physical transformation that comes from excercise. What's more important is the mental aspects that comes with it. More alert, feel better about yourself, better health and uplifting to the spirit. It also builds self confidence. Those are just a 'FEW" things that come to mind.

 

[dankjones]

gr81: Your exact words were "I can speak for myself when I say that I do something every day to better myself as a result of BB, what do you do huh?" You are obviously the local troll, I have no need to respond to your posts any furthur.

firestorm: If you read more closely you'll see that I said "If getting built is the greatest accomplishment in your life" That's not to say that it isn't a great accomplishment, but there are far greater things, and if that is the greatest in someone's ENTIRE life, well that's kind of lame.

DanK: Sorry, I didn't do a search for names similar to mine before joined. I've been using this name on and off since 1996. Yes, I was Bob, and the jury is still out as to wether I still am or not. I'll let you know in about a year.

 

[gr81]

the local troll huh, wow you showed me. Hey newbie, why don't you go somewhere else. since being fit is so offensive to you then why are you spending time on a fitness board? That is like me getting on a hip hop forum and criticizing everyone on there for listening to rap, it doesn't make alot of sense and you won't accomplish anything. I am not going to resort to name calling b/c I don't have to to prove my point. Everyone that has read your posts knows what kind of person you are, so that is all. Have a nice life sitting on that couch drinking beer and adding width to that gut of yours Bob, have a nice life being like everyone else out there.

 

[CourtQueen]

Ok Males, I have to jump in here.

First off dankjones, you don't get the article. Go read some of this authors other stuff at t-mag, then you might get it. Second, congrats on teaching yourself college alegebra. After you ace abstract then let us know if it was worth it. ( I did get my degree in math - so don't fuck with me)

I actually think that working out is as important as taking care of my family. If I don't workout I would get weak, have less energy and be a stress case. Do you realize what that does to a family?? Working out = taking care of my family!!

Everyone is different. There are people out there that have a lot to overcome to accomplish a physique that they are proud of. To me that is amazing, the mind body connection is such a powerful thing. Someone that has achieved a physical goal has often achieved a mental one too.

"If getting built is the greatest accomplishment in your life, then it is a sad life indeed." I think this is a HORRIBLE comment.

What I really want to know is what firestorm's mental aspect of his butt being sore is???

 

[eskimo515]

Amen, Sister!

 

[firestorm]

Originally posted by CourtQueen
Ok Males, I have to jump in here.

First off dankjones, you don't get the article. Go read some of this authors other stuff at t-mag, then you might get it. Second, congrats on teaching yourself college alegebra. After you ace abstract then let us know if it was worth it. ( I did get my degree in math - so don't fuck with me)

I actually think that working out is as important as taking care of my family. If I don't workout I would get weak, have less energy and be a stress case. Do you realize what that does to a family?? Working out = taking care of my family!!

Everyone is different. There are people out there that have a lot to overcome to accomplish a physique that they are proud of. To me that is amazing, the mind body connection is such a powerful thing. Someone that has achieved a physical goal has often achieved a mental one too.

"If getting built is the greatest accomplishment in your life, then it is a sad life indeed." I think this is a HORRIBLE comment.

What I really want to know is what firestorm's mental aspect of his butt being sore is???

OMG!! I was soo into reading this post and then...... HAHAHAHAHAHA too funny girl!!! touche' I was just giving the guys and gals something to play with during my days away from here was all. Let everyone laugh at me while I was gone. very good post!!!!!!!

 

[CourtQueen]

You wanted them to play with your sore ass??

 

[firestorm]

Huuu? Say what? Who? Play with my what? Did I say that? Where?

 

[DFINEST]

Originally posted by CourtQueen
You wanted them to play with your sore ass??

CourtQueen shoots from downtown,
NUTTIN BUT NET (she got you Firestorm)

CQ, DAMN FINE rebuttal for Dankjones to Self-educate
himself on people skills

This is a great article; I'm going to print
and give a copy to everyone that I work out with


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Once a task you first begun,
Never finished until it???s done,
Be the labor great or small,
Do it well or not at all!
- Big Mama

 

[thrower2001]

bah, ignorant people piss me off.... bookworm or bodybuilder , do your own thing but dont insult the other. and frankly this country would be better off if people worked out a lil more instead we're still the fat kid on the playground to all the other countrys in the world.

as far as im concerned u can have a 200 IQ but u start rippin on someone who devotes their life to gettin huge then i wont feel sorry for u when a man 5 times ure size goes back on primal instinct and crushs ure skull because the noise is amusing. i gotta buddy who would do and yes hes proud of that.

 

[Victoria]

bump

 

[Trump]

Originally posted by dankjones
Stop giving in to your weakness and making excuses. You are neglecting your mind.

Learn what it means to be a real man.

Hint: It means more than devoting all your time and energy to something that in the end is meaningless. How does what you do make you better than someone who puts just as much time and effort into getting, say, a philosophy degree... and of the two which is more usefull/less?


Are you just compensating for having a weak mind? You don't have to choose you know. You can have both, you just have to want it bad enough.

Edit: You wanted to know what I've done. This year I re-learned Algebra 1 & 2 and have started teaching myself College Algebra. I'm taking the class next semester, but I plan on being able to pass the class the day I walk in the door.

 

[MeanCuts]

That was pretty good~lol~kinda snobby but good

 

[oaktownboy]

That has to be one of the most inspiring articles I've ever read.

 

[maniclion]

In response to Dankjones'

Stop giving in to your weakness and making excuses. You are neglecting your mind.

I recently graduated from college with honors, 4.0 G.P.A, while maintaining a full-time job and still spent two hours a day, 5 days a week "becoming the Anti-Bob". I actually believe that my training and strict diet supplemented my mind to help me achieve those goals. I now work in photovoltaics trying to help solve one of our planets largest problems, lack of energy. So don't come over here flexing your melon, cause many of us can flex ours as well.

 

[MeanCuts]

Originally posted by maniclion
In response to Dankjones'

I recently graduated from college with honors, 4.0 G.P.A, while maintaining a full-time job and still spent two hours a day, 5 days a week "becoming the Anti-Bob". I actually believe that my training and strict diet supplemented my mind to help me achieve those goals. I now work in photovoltaics trying to help solve one our planets largest problems, lack of energy.

Girlfriend? ~lol~

 

[RCfootball87]

Originally posted by dankjones
Edit: You wanted to know what I've done. This year I re-learned Algebra 1 & 2 and have started teaching myself College Algebra. I'm taking the class next semester, but I plan on being able to pass the class the day I walk in the door.

I'm taking honors college algebra at 15, and I gained 30 pounds of muscle since 8 months ago, and I don't think either of those are impressive. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not easily impressed by either. Weight lifting has really helped turn me more into a man instead of a boy personally. More than football even, and thats what football is supposed to be good for. It's taught me discipline, hard work, setting goals, and most important humility- every time you think you're a stud, someone's bigger and stronger. Is it wrong to be proud that I'm more dedicatied to lifting than anyone else I know? I dont think so. Does that mean I have a mental illness? All I know is I'm stronger physically because of lifting weights, and getting stronger mentally because of getting stronger physically. They are one in the same to me.

 

[gr81]

well put RC.

 

[Tha Don]

wow

that was great!

some good lines in that... that i think everyone who dose weights seriously can relate too

certainly motivated me to stick at it

top stuff!