What The skcuf wrong w/ You Kids

[Tough Old Man]

Unbelievable. what's happening to all you young guys. 21 yrs old and have already done 5-6 cycles. I reallize that i'm doing my first cycle at the age of 52 which is crazy. But at lease i made it to 52 with no illnesses. you guys who are doing cycles at early ages really are crazier then me. I feel that cycling is probably going to do harm to me in one way or another and i'll take that chance as i've had a good life. But yours is just starting.

Tough Old Man, and sorry for speaking my 2 cents

 

[gr81]

I feel that cycling is probably going to do harm to me in one way or another and i'll take that chance as i've had a good life. But yours is just starting.

how will it do you harm? I agree that a 12 yr old shouldn't have 5 cycles under his belt already, but to imply that runing some shit is the same as signing your death papers or sum shit is silly. I defn agree that young guys have no business running

 

[LAM]

Unbelievable. what's happening to all you young guys. 21 yrs old and have already done 5-6 cycles. I reallize that i'm doing my first cycle at the age of 52 which is crazy. But at lease i made it to 52 with no illnesses. you guys who are doing cycles at early ages really are crazier then me. I feel that cycling is probably going to do harm to me in one way or another and i'll take that chance as i've had a good life. But yours is just starting.

Tough Old Man, and sorry for speaking my 2 cents

I'm right there with you. I waited until I had 21 years of training under my belt and a natural body weight of 260 lbs before I stuck a needle in me...

 

[Tough Old Man]

well 81, i found that on another forum. this kid just turned 21 and says he has 5-6 cycles under his belt and posted his next cycle and ask what people thought of it. What age do you think this kid was when he started. You have your thoughts but i have mine and i think there fucking crazy. Hey 81 have you done steroids before. Can test alter aggression? just what the fucking country needs is a bunch of 14-18 year old kids in school doing test. Sorry but for once i disagree with you. look at the ages of some of these people under anabolic zone asking ?'s. Some are 14 years old. Why do you think there asking ?'s for. It's diffenetly not to get advise on a new college major!

 

[deeno]

i agree there

im 21 and will be running my first cycle within a couple of months. The reason im gonna bump the juice is generally cosmetic, i want to look good for myself. I have been generally small framed all my life, even with consistent training and eating. In the last 3 months of 6 meals a day 3500+ calories I have gained just 5 lbs--FIVE POUNDS! I have been researching for a while, and still spend atleast an hour a day reading articles and on forums. From my research I genuinely believe that the positives of doing a cycle will far outweigh the negatives..gear is a dangerous path to follow, theres always another cycle waiting for you...my two cents

 

[JerseyDevil]

I didn't run my first cycle until the beginning of this year at the ripe old age of 48... and I've been training for 15 years. Tried some PH's the year before that.

I can see juicing for a few years then cutting it off. I plan on weight training until they have to rip the barbell out of my hands . I really couldn't imagine starting gear at 21 and using it for 30+ years.

 

[ZorroAzul]

gear is a dangerous path to follow, theres always another cycle waiting for you...my two cents

How many times have you heard "I will only do this one cycle"... lol I even said that myself once.

 

[Tough Old Man]

Denno hello son. Look your 21 years of age and considered an adult. Just take it slow and don't go overboard. Maybe i'm on the other end of the spectrum being 52, but after spending 27 years and retireing as a police LT. I have seen What other types of drugs due to young people. I due steroids and I know this stuff can alter personallities and cause aggression. I just think god that there are only a hand full of young steroid users vs. Crack users. We adults do need to feed the young, but would help if sometimes we knew the ages of those posting ?'s on steroid use. Unlike me who posted his age, I find a lot refuse to. Hopefully this is not to misleading in any way. I'd hate the thought of gaining info on steroids only to find out that the person on the other end is 13 years old. Imagine this. I'm working an investigation regarding armed and dangerous bandits held up in a house. and i have a new partner whom i pick off a list, age unknown cause he didn't give it but according to his application seem ok, I'm entering one side and my new partner is entering the other. I look up to see my partner is a child with a .38 in his right hand.
HERE's my question.......Is this the person you thought you hired for backup? Is this the person you want to take advice on the use of steroids?

 

[thejames]

Test increasing aggression is supposed to be a myth. I thought I read somewhere men with low testerone levels are more likely to be agressive. Could be wrong, but I am pretty sure I read that.

 

[BoneCrusher]

One of the things TOM has is wisdom. Heed it fellas. You M*I*G*H*T get to be his age if ya do.

 

[deeno]

Advice taken and appreciated old man.

Zorro-im gonna do one cycle at stop! haha yea rite eh...atleast one a year till my time is up...

My first cycle is comin soon, i'll keep you guys posted..

 

[gr81]

I due steroids and I know this stuff can alter personallities and cause aggression.

I think you are overexaggerating this man. Its not so much of a jekyl and hyde type of deal man. Those who have a shitty predisosition and who aren't stable may indeed have their own emotions amped up, but to think that everyone on test is sitting rooftop with a sniper and a parade just for the fucc of it is innacurate man. Test has so many positive benefits on mood elevation, increased confidence, feeling of well being, all that shit. You guys listen to these stupid anti-doping committees and the media and whatever propaganda spews out of their mouth.

 

[gr81]

to answer your Q TOM, I am all natural. I ran a very unnsuccessful cycle about a year or so ago, but like I said, it didn't go as planned. I was just as heavy off as I ever was on.. its not something I like to talk about..lol

 

[JoeR.]

Well it can be argued the other way also. Let me state im 18 been training for one year, dont plan on doing roids for awhile.

A kid whos 20ish could argue other then your personal benifit why the hell are you doing steriods at the ripe age of 50something? He could argue that he is regularly cycling steriods becasue that is the only hope of reaching his dream to be a pro.

its not uncommon to see guys at my gym who are mabye between 19-23 that look like they are juicing. I never want to say anything to anyone about it because I wouldnt want to take away all there hardwork, especially if I was wrong. I work out at a college gym, so I see all the football players and such and they certaining look like they might have been doing test, but mabye some PHs. I remember hearing stories that my HIGHSCHOOL baseball team would all do PHs, most having little knowledge in training/nutrition/drugs at all. They would tell there friends who arent on the team that this is what made them big. Thats how it spreads.

I personally have mixed feelings at juicin at the college level, I have gained a lot in my first year but can see the gains quickly diminishing. For someone who has an undenied love for bodybuilding, they will take all the measures to achieve the look they want.

 

[TrojanMan60563]

I think it goes both ways....older people say your too young and need to wait....old man is old and juicing...why? maybe because he wants to get into better shape to feel better about himself...or to achieve some physical goal....some might say its a midlife crisis and he is trying to get back whats long gone....either way who cares....people should do whatever the hell they want. We are all responsible for our own actions. We all have to pay the price of our mistakes. People should worry about themselves and leave others alone. If someone is asking for help then so be it.

 

[JerseyDevil]

If you really think about it, it makes more sense for an older man to use. Your testosterone levels peak out around 21, then decline slowly thereafter. Most men in their 40's produce low to moderate levels of test and could use the boost . Why do you think HRT is much more common with a 40 year old then a 20 year old?

 

[ZECH]

Test has so many positive benefits on mood elevation, increased confidence, feeling of well being, all that shit. You guys listen to these stupid anti-doping committees and the media and whatever propaganda spews out of their mouth.

I hate to do this, but I'm going to agree with gr81 on this There are many positive benefits especially to older men as Jersey said. As you get older (30's-40's)and test levels decline, there can be many negatives from this. Low sex drive, constant tiredness, depression, loss of strength and this constant decline increases the risk of obesity, brittle bones, muscle loss and impotence. Very low testosterone levels can also increase your risk of dying from a heart attack. The key though is reponsible and informed use. Most of these young kids don't know what they are doing and are probably doing nothing to help themselves. But Test can be helpful for your health.

 

[Pirate!]

Test increasing aggression is supposed to be a myth. I thought I read somewhere men with low testerone levels are more likely to be agressive. Could be wrong, but I am pretty sure I read that.

The few times that I have shot test, I have felt great. When I get pissed, I want to kick down doors and take off peoples' heads. Here is the thing: I don't. I just chill out and feel great again. It can increase aggression, but a real man can control himself. Only real men should should shoot test, IMO.

 

[ZECH]

I think the whole roid rage thing is an excuse for poor behavior.

 

[gr81]

^yup.. can you believe that people are so ignorant that in court cases the defendant has claimed that he was unable to control his anger due to roid rage, like an insanity plea!! fuccin ridiculous, and people believe it

 

[Tough Old Man]

hello one of my favorites 81. here's what i was talking about. take a look at one of the newly posted called "i've got a Q for u all". This is exactly what i was talking about when i said young kids. I wasn't implying young men but young kids.

 

[BoneCrusher]

15 year olds on a cycle ... please say it isnt so.

 

[Supermans Daddy]

15 year olds on a cycle ...

Somebody should be kick'n his young dumb ass like a fuck'n soccer ball. I love juice and I'm not natural , I'm fuck'n super natural. However I'm a old school Dog, full grown and seasoned like Gumbo, I'm not new to this, I'm true to this! And any young guy should first, just max out ( as most won't) and roll till you feel'n yourself. Then if you wanna get down and dirty in tha game ,fine. I don't see a need for a cat in his teens play'n wit his hormones and shit. And as far as roid rage and thangs, I personally don't think that's much of a problem for responible adults, but I'm sure it might be some crazy shit for a kid. Peace n Love

 

[Tough Old Man]

Wow, opinions do vary. I guess that's makes the world go around. I'd like to offer one more opinion. I sometimes wish we could take discipline back to the 50's, where discipline meant just that and not jail time. Then maybe we could help unscrew a few kids heads and place it back on there shoulders facing forward.

 

[Supermans Daddy]

I sometimes wish we could take discipline back to the 50's, where discipline meant just that and not jail time. Then maybe we could help unscrew a few kids heads and place it back on there shoulders facing forward.

Yeah that would be cool, but tha key to cool kids is cool parenting.Flat out . Peace n Love

 

[TrojanMan60563]

Yeah that would be cool, but tha key to cool kids is cool parenting.Flat out . Peace n Love

Yeah I tend to agree...I blame the parents for their childrens actions. A lot of parents out there should have been banned from having children.

 

[Just a guy]

welp im 19 and this is my 4th cycle... guess im crazy. COnsidering i get blood work done every month. Put me in a straight jacket.

i dont see no problem with it as long as you reached or got close to your genetic potential... And over 18

 

[musotechy]

It's got be down to "Each To Their Own"


The pro's are getting younger and younger. Lee Priest didn't become a pro by the time he was 20 without taking the gear!!!. Youngsters see that and want it for them selves. I think the biggest problem with steriods is mis-information, to many people thinking they know what they are talking about and then passing it on. Research, research and research some more. With the internet the way it is, there is no excuse for being mis-informed.


To add: I know a USA pro pretty well, he spends on average $90,000.00 a year on roids. Most couldn't afford $900 a year so, I don't think there is much to worry about for the average Joe (IMO)

muso

 

[Tough Old Man]

Hello Just a guy. I have a ? for you. You said something about over 18 yrs old. Then I take it you were at least 18 when you did your first cycle. Now if you are 19 and have 4 cycles under your belt, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE TAKEN ANYTIME OFF AT ALL FROM "STEROIDS" IN THE LAST YEAR?

 

[Just a guy]

Honestly... No.. I would take 3-6 week breaks.. and then i was on again. I would get blood work to make sure everything is ok and recovered. Sorry it took so long to respond.. didnt see the reply.