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What's your chest routine?

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V Player said:
But you might want to think about getting along with PreMier, he knows his shit and his body proves it. We have yet to see yours so......feel my drift?
This was my thought as well.
 
How come everytime a new person comes, who is not an amateur, who has knowledge on BB subjects....etc
How come someone always has to jump on them as soon as they state their opinions??

This is fucking pathetic!

DHG, Just forget them and go on with your business, you seem like a decent guy and you need not waste your time here arguing, because it never goes anywhere

Some of the meatheads on this site need to get a clue and stop badgering, if you dont agree with someone else's opinions, then stop reading them

Dont act childish and argue with them over and over

He said he would have pics, so just wait and see and STFU.
 
PreMier said:
Maybe if you decided to educate yourself on certain aspects of the sport(read training), then you wouldn't be such a hardgainer.

Nah, the solution is to eat 800 calories 10 times a day to become Ronnie Coleman, remember?? Actually, fuck that...let's all just hook up to an IV and get fed protein/carb serum around the clock and we'll all be in the Arnold Classic in no time! :rolleyes:

You should also know, that the site admin wont release your IP information to the public. I'm not avoiding anything, tell me your full name, rank, and IP address, along with a number to contact the base at.

The site admin won't release IP information to the public? Oh, don't give me that crap. That is the worst excuse I have every heard as you know very well that this is not an ISP therefore the site admin is not subject to information privacy laws. You, I, and every other user on this site is a guest on this site's server and therefore relinquished our rights to IP privacy as soon as we opened the page up in our browser. IP's don't mean shit. That's why you can ping/whois anyone on the net and grab it. First time on the internet?

About releasing my personal information, you MUST be high. Do you really think that I would take some anonymous moron like you so seriously that I'd release my personal info on the internet? Really? I suppose you'll require my date of birth, social security number, and next of kin as well! Here's an idea: you release to me your personal info, that being your name and address -- that will allow me to pull your tax history off public records to verify your identity. Then I will give you mine. Agree? Until then here's a better way:

Quit making excuses and ask the site admin my IP and tell him to do a full packet check on my traffic. And while you're doing that, call this number 81-0176-53-5181, then dial 226-1397, ask the person who answers to look on the day shift schedule and tell you whether Carter is running the shift that day. If they ask you who you are, tell them you're some dumbass from Iron Magazine forums....lol...actually that truth will only have them report your suspicious call to the comm squadron, so say you're a new recruit that just got in on the "freedom bird". Got it?

You want the number to the Mokuteki? They have a really sweet onion and mushroom burger! Best on base.

The simple fact that you base your ideology on training off of someone who trained in the 70's is perplexing.

Riiiight. Because the human body has evolved in the 30 years since. :hmmm:

Just think about it, you have been training for 10 years, and you have gained 40 lbs? I've done far better in less than the two I have been training

Two years? That would explain the immaturity of your muscle development. And this whole time I thought I was talking to someone who actually had some experience under his belt. Now how am I supposed to even try to take you seriously? If you ask nicely I'll put a good routine together for you, but as you can see, I doubt you'd be able to last 2 weeks on mine.
 
V Player said:
Eh, well....thats up to you how you want to identify yourself as "not johnny". But you might want to think about getting along with PreMier, he knows his shit and his body proves it. We have yet to see yours so......feel my drift? See Im also like you in a way in that people think my own personal training is overtraining or just plain retarted. I do 100 rep sets, light weight high reps and......oh, never mind. You know the drill; I dont "fit a category". Yet my training still works for me.

Then you would agree that everyone is different. Everyone's body responds differently to various training techniques. Anyone who has been training religiously for years should understand through hard work and mixed results on how best their body responds to weight training. If you do 100 rep sets and light weight and that works for you, you won't find me criticizing your routine. I don't know you and even that avatar pic doesn't tell me anything about your history, your diet, your base body weight, fat %, etc.

It really doesn't matter to me who anyone thinks I am. I gave enough info to prove I know info that can only be gained by personal familiarity with a workplace, without revealing my personal information which I won't do. I look forward to getting some pics up soon and welcome all the criticism you can dish out, as I am always looking to build up my weak areas like forearms and legs. It's the internet so I don't take any of it personal.
 
myCATpowerlifts said:
How come everytime a new person comes, who is not an amateur, who has knowledge on BB subjects....etc
How come someone always has to jump on them as soon as they state their opinions??

This is fucking pathetic!

DHG, Just forget them and go on with your business, you seem like a decent guy and you need not waste your time here arguing, because it never goes anywhere.

I should have read this post first instead of working my way down. I found this is common on many forums. I usually have fun with it - I suspect people engage in flame wars to harmlessly vent. New guys are always good targets. But you're right, this isn't going anywhere. Give me a week or two to get settled in Florida and take some pics, then we can compare.
 
I'm not getting into a big argument, but I figured I would post my chest routine. I currently do 2 sets of flat bench press and 1 set of decline press 3 times per week. I am currently 10 pounds heavier than in my pictures, but probably a few pounds of that is fat, and another couple water. I'm hoping I gained a minmum of 3 pounds of pure muscle.
 
myCATpowerlifts said:
How come everytime a new person comes, who is not an amateur, who has knowledge on BB subjects....etc
How come someone always has to jump on them as soon as they state their opinions??

This is fucking pathetic!

DHG, Just forget them and go on with your business, you seem like a decent guy and you need not waste your time here arguing, because it never goes anywhere

Some of the meatheads on this site need to get a clue and stop badgering, if you dont agree with someone else's opinions, then stop reading them
Dont act childish and argue with them over and over

He said he would have pics, so just wait and see and STFU.
Isnt this exactly what maybe you need to do on this thread? I mean, you're also coming on here and doing the same thing in a manner of speaking. I mean...Im just sayin.

And for the record, I wasnt treated this way whenever I first came. I do admit that I dont give alot of advise, but what I have given has not been slammed. I come here to relax, I give more than enough advise elsewhere.


DamnHardGainer said:
Then you would agree that everyone is different. Everyone's body responds differently to various training techniques.
Oh I know that. That was never the subject of what I was trying to talk to you about. I was just saying that I know what its like to be the oddball.
DamnHardGainer said:
It really doesn't matter to me who anyone thinks I am.
Oh I hear ya. But in this case, maybe it would be wise to make an exception. See, its not neccessarily that anyone has to prove anything to anyone, its that ..... well..... dude, you're just going to have to do some research on "johnnny". Yeah, with three Ns. This is the very worst of the online trolls that you will ever see and quite frankly, if some people keep thinking you are him, your stay here may not be as pleasant as it could be. I mean, I know you dont care what people thibnk about you, but admit it, it would be nice to not have ONE MORE THING to argue about than neccessary. Hell, Ive been where you're at before on my home board. Im still an oddball over there. But since my training gets results, Ive been able to shut the mouths of a lot of meatheads myself and now, ironicaly, they come to ME for advise. All I mean by that is that spirited debates about routines and beliefs have a better chance to stay within those paremeters than having them get sidetracked due to people thinking you are that troll johnnny. Thats all. Everyone IS different, and even PreMier knows that, but its hard to take anyone seriously when we think its johnny, thats all. If you indeed are not him, I dont care if you do 10000 sets per body part. If you're getting results, then you are very welcome here as far as Im concerned and Im sure some people will at least not slam you.







And on that note........Folks, he's starting to sound less and less like johnny now. Johnny does not have the extended vocabulary that DHG seems to have, nor the reasoning capabilities either.
 
V Player said:
Isnt this exactly what maybe you need to do on this thread? I mean, you're also coming on here and doing the same thing in a manner of speaking. I mean...Im just sayin.


Actually, it's much different. I wasn't jumping on people for their OPINIONS on BODYBUILDING.
I was jumping on people because they are a dick.
 
V Player said:
And on that note........Folks, he's starting to sound less and less like johnny now. Johnny does not have the extended vocabulary that DHG seems to have, nor the reasoning capabilities either.

Im suprised it took someone this long to figure that out.
 
myCATpowerlifts said:
Actually, it's much different. I wasn't jumping on people for their OPINIONS on BODYBUILDING.
I was jumping on people because they are a dick.
Jumping is jumping. I dont see where being "different" makes you less wrong or more right. I mean, Im just sayin.

myCATpowerlifts said:
Im suprised it took someone this long to figure that out.
Not neccessarily. Not if you are as familiar with johnny as I am. You forget that he makes up many, many acounts with which to haunt the internet with. At times he has shown quite the ability to hide himself in the first few posts, but he ultimately does hang himself. Its DHGs consistency with logic that makes me think otherwise now. Johnny does not have the mental fortitude to pull it off this long when faced with continued speculation.
 
Did I say I love to do cable crossovers? ... I think I did. Oh well, time to fire up the Soldano and grab the LP.
 
Well.....Ive never done this, but in the spirit of getting this thread back on track, here's a glimpse of one of my chest workouts out of my journal back on my home board.
Semi-decline chest presses:
200 x 6
210 x 6
230 x 5
Strict two minute rest instead of three minutes this week. I went from 210 to 230 and felt I could even do 240, but my hands went numb at 5 reps on 230 so the point was moot anyways.

180 x 10
190 x 10
One minute rest

80 x 20, no rest between the 10 reps set.



Cable crossovers:
70 x 6
50 x 6
50 x 6
Two minute rest again. But hands went numb after the first set and I had to lower the weight. But I held the contraction for a full 3 count.

30 x 10
40 x 10
One minute rest

Bodyweight chest dips for 20, no rest after 10 rep sets.


But most often I do 2 rounds of 100 reps with anywhere from 120 to 150, depending on how I feel.
 
V Player said:
And on that note........Folks, he's starting to sound less and less like johnny now. Johnny does not have the extended vocabulary that DHG seems to have, nor the reasoning capabilities either.
I agree with that bigtime.

We should all agree to disagree, I don't agree with his training method but if it works for him so be it.
 
Flat bench press
12 x 135 for warm ups
10 x 225
8 x 235
6 x 245
4 x 255
4 to 8 x225 I wish I had a spotter.

Incline bench press
10 x 135
8 x 185
6 x 195
6 x 205
6 x 215

Decline bench press
8 x 185
6 x 195
6 x 205
6 x 215

I alternate dips with declines every now and then, but ever since I broke my collar certain exercises like dips and uprights hurt so I shy away from them

If I have time I do 10 sets of flyes or pec deck.

This is what I do for the winter bulking season for a month I hit the chest twice a week.
On Mondays I go heavy and on Thursdays I go real light.
Go ahead criticize me....I'm bullet proof :)
 
min0, if you don't mind me asking, how did you break your collarbone?

Oh yeah, and the concept of you actually doing bodybuilding is starting to kinda freak me out.


;)
 
cfs3 said:
min0, if you don't mind me asking, how did you break your collarbone?

Oh yeah, and the concept of you actually doing bodybuilding is starting to kinda freak me out.


;)
My kids were racing and the youngest one was losing the race so I tried to help him win the race by me picking him up and running with him, I hit a crack and tripped while holding him.

I didn't want to fall on him (185 lbs. vs. 30 lbs.) so I leaped over him head first trying to land on my back (when I was lighter I did it with ease) but instead I landed on my collar bone breaking it and tearing ligaments.

This was 3 years ago when I started training again, yes I trained thru it but at the time I didn't know it was broken. What can I say....I am a tough SOB :)
 
V Player said:
Everyone IS different, and even PreMier knows that, but its hard to take anyone seriously when we think its johnny, thats all. If you indeed are not him, I dont care if you do 10000 sets per body part. If you're getting results, then you are very welcome here as far as Im concerned and Im sure some people will at least not slam you.

I agree with what you said. Meanwhile I'm in the midst of packing for my flight out this Wednesday and am quite busy so I won't have the luxury of engaging in much more of this back and forth banter for perhaps 10 days (much to Premier's chagrin, I'm sure!). I'll hold up to my word at that time.
 
min0 lee said:
Flat bench press
12 x 135 for warm ups
10 x 225
8 x 235
6 x 245
4 x 255
4 to 8 x225 I wish I had a spotter.

Incline bench press
10 x 135
8 x 185
6 x 195
6 x 205
6 x 215

Decline bench press
8 x 185
6 x 195
6 x 205
6 x 215

I alternate dips with declines every now and then, but ever since I broke my collar certain exercises like dips and uprights hurt so I shy away from them

If I have time I do 10 sets of flyes or pec deck.

This is what I do for the winter bulking season for a month I hit the chest twice a week.
On Mondays I go heavy and on Thursdays I go real light.
Go ahead criticize me....I'm bullet proof :)




why can't you get a spotter?? i thought you train at balley? isn't there someone working out that can give you a spot for a sec?
 
P-funk said:
why can't you get a spotter?? i thought you train at balley? isn't there someone working out that can give you a spot for a sec?

I don't like to ask anyone for a spot for several reasons

1- I hate to trouble people, dunno I have alway's been that way.

2- I have found very few people who know how to spot, I hate when they practically yank the bar away from me.

3- I try to keep my distance from people at the gym, I am not a chatty person at the gym and I have only an hour to work out, some people don't know when to shut up.
 
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min0 lee said:
I don't like to ask anyone for a spot for several reasons

1- I hate to trouble people, dunno I have alway's been that way.

That's me! I hate asking people, especially if I have to more than once, I feel as if I'm being a horrible annoyance...so I can't bring myself to ask

Im the same way on the phone, I have to have people call me, because I can't call....I feel like im being annoying if i call 2 times or more
 
I put up one picture of my weakest body part for now: my legs. They are the last place I am trying to build up to catch up with my upper body and the least developed part of me. My goal is to add up to 10 lbs more on them and I'll be happy. I couldnt take the picture any further away since my remote is only 3 feet long.

Sorry for bad pic quality but I have a crappy digital cam at 640x480. I fly to FL tomorrow so I'll take some better pics there with a real camera. But I thought I'd at least show my weakest development first.

Feel free to criticize. But remember my personal goal is for aesthetics...I'm going for the build of those guys on boxes of underwear. Beach physique basically. I feel like I'm almost there but need some more leg, forearm, and rear delt development. I show what I mean with more pics soon.
 
Well Im certainly not going to criticize.....



Damn.....forgot all about this thread.




If you're going for a beach physique, you're probably not johnny. He was always going for super mass and his "decent power and condition". Gotta hand it to ya, you put up a not so good pic, but at least you put up. Props.
 
i do:

Flat bench (barbell) : 2 warm up sets, 3 or 4 working

Decline/Incline (barbell, switch those two each week) : 2 warm up sets, 3 or 4 working

Flys (machine/dumbbell) : 1 warm up, 3 or 4 working

Pushups : 2 or 3 sets


I should add dips and i might add that pullover exercise soon though

:thumb:
 
V Player said:
If you're going for a beach physique, you're probably not johnny. He was always going for super mass and his "decent power and condition". Gotta hand it to ya, you put up a not so good pic, but at least you put up. Props.

Super mass on me is impossible. I have to stick with what within what's realistic for my body. I always thought Mark Wahlberg had a great physique, particularly in movie's where he doesn't diet down...such as Basketball Diaries, Perfect Storm, and Three Kings.

That pic sucks because the detail is washed out but basically I have my quad separation going but I need more mass. Only been hitting legs hard for 18 months though. I was one of those fools who only worked upper body for years. I regret that now but what can I say, I was stationed in cold environments for 6 years and never showed my legs.
 
DamnHardGainer said:
Super mass on me is impossible. I have to stick with what within what's realistic for my body.
Why don't you take gear?
 
DamnHardGainer said:
Super mass on me is impossible. I have to stick with what within what's realistic for my body. I always thought Mark Wahlberg had a great physique, particularly in movie's where he doesn't diet down...such as Basketball Diaries, Perfect Storm, and Three Kings.
If I had that body type, Id go for the Wahlberg look myself. But I dont. So Im gonna stick to trying to look like Batista by the end of the year :D
 
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