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When will the apologies stop?

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Obama apologizes to Afghanistan for Quran burning



Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Afghan rage over the burning of Qurans by NATO troops showed little signs of subsiding Thursday even after a President Barak Obama apologized for the "error."
In a letter delivered to Afghan President Hamid Karzai, Obama called the act "inadvertent," Karzai's office and National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said Thursday.
"We will take the appropriate steps to avoid any recurrence, including holding accountable those responsible," Obama said in the letter delivered by Ryan Crocker, the U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan.
Afghanistan erupted in violent demonstrations since the troops' burning of the Islamic religious material at the beginning of the week. Many feared further unrest Friday, the Islamic holy day.
Two American troops were killed Thursday by a man wearing an Afghan National Army uniform, a U.S. official said, asking not to be named discussing casualties.
The gunman is thought to have been acting in conjunction with a protest taking place outside the base, the official said.

The protest and shootings came as the Taliban called on Muslims to attack NATO military bases and convoys and kill soldiers following the admission that NATO troops had incinerated the religious material at Bagram Airfield.
Afghan officials investigating urged Afghans to "exercise self-restraint" and "avoid resorting to protests and demonstrations that may provide ground for the enemy to take advantage of the situation."
The investigators called the burning of religious material "insulting and shameful," saying NATO officials had promised to bring the "perpetrators of the crime ... to justice as soon as possible."
Muslims believe the Quran is the word of God, so holy that people should wash their hands before even touching the sacred book. Desecrating the Quran is seen as an affront -- an act of intolerance and bigotry.
At least two demonstrators also were killed in the exchange of gunfire near the base where the two Americans died, said Haji Mohammad Hassan, chief of Khugyani district in eastern Nangarhar province.
Two U.S. soldiers and seven demonstrators were injured in the clash, too, he said.
"We don't know who started the shooting first and what kind of guns were used, but we have started our investigation to find out the details of the incident," Hassan told CNN.
He said there were 200 to 300 demonstrators but the protest was now under control.
There was also a larger demonstration near a Norwegian-run Provincial Reconstruction Team compound in Maimana, the provincial capital of Faryab province, a regional police spokesman said.
Afghan security forces prevented the 700 to 800 demonstrators from getting into the compound, said police spokesman Lal Mohammad Ahmadzai said.
They burned a few civilian vehicles parked near the compound, he said.
American diplomats in Kabul and the north and south of Afghanistan are on lockdown for a second day in the face of protests, U.S. Embassy spokesman Mark Thornburg said.
At least five people were killed in demonstrations Wednesday.
The commander of NATO's International Security Assistance Force, Gen. John Allen, apologized Tuesday for the incineration of the materials and said it was a mistake. The materials were gathered for disposal and were inadvertently given to troops for burning, Allen said.
He said: "It was not a decision that was made with respect to the faith of Islam. It was a mistake. It was an error. The moment we found out about it, we immediately stopped and we intervened."
The Taliban on Thursday rejected the apology.
In an e-mail message, the Islamist militia accused "the invading infidel authorities" of trying to calm the situation with two "so-called show(s) of apologies, but in reality they let their inhuman soldiers insult our holy book."
They called on Afghans to take revenge "until the doers of such inhumane actions are prosecuted and punished."
"We should attack their military bases, their military convoys, we should kill their soldiers, arrest their invading soldiers, beat them up and give a kind of lesson to them that they never dare to insult the holy Quran," the message said.
Afghan religious scholar Anayatullah Baligh said it can be appropriate to burn a damaged Quran to dispose of it, but that it should be done by a Muslim performing the act respectfully.
"I can't tell you whether Americans intentionally burned the copies of the holy Quran to make Muslims angry or if they did it mistakenly," he said, but said their "carelessness" was "a crime they have committed against the holiest book of 2 billion Muslims around the world."
A military official told CNN on Thursday that it was unclear at this point how many Qurans were involved in the improper disposal and accepted that some had been partially burned.
American troops at the base would not have been able to read the texts and that would have contributed to the mistake, the official said, asking not to be named discussing an ongoing investigation.
A second military official said earlier the materials were removed from a detainee center's library because they had "extremist inscriptions" on them and there was "an appearance that these documents were being used to facilitate extremist communications."
But U.S. apologies have not been enough to appease angry Afghans, who massed outside the Bagram base Tuesday, chanting "Death to America! Death to the Afghan government! Long live Islam!"
Protesters burned tires and threw rocks Wednesday outside Camp Phoenix near Kabul International Airport, the U.S. Embassy said in its official Twitter feed. It asked Americans to avoid the area, saying the protests had "turned violent." It also suspended all travel.
In Jalalabad, hundreds chanted "Down With America" as crowds gathered near the airport.
Authorities have questioned some troops as part of their investigation, but no one has been detained, a coalition official said.
Last year, when controversial Florida pastor Terry Jones presided over what he called a trial of the Quran and burned a copy, Afghans took to the streets. In the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e Sharif, demonstrators stormed a U.N. office and killed 12 people. In Kandahar, three people were killed, and nine in another when police and stone-throwing demonstrators clashed.
American officials vociferously condemned the pastor's act.
In 2010, Afghans protested outside the Forward Operating Base Mirwais in response to an alleged Quran burning inside the base. But coalition forces called the suspected burning a routine burn-pit session in which military documents were destroyed.
 
^^^that^^^

Our government is ran by a bunch of pussies.

This is war, you fucking faggots. Quit apologizing.
 
^^^that^^^

Our government is ran by a bunch of pussies.

This is war, you fucking faggots. Quit apologizing.

Gawd damn, George knew what the fuck he was talking about....
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Fuck Afghans, fuck Afghanistan, fuck the fucking Quran. If you think that a book has more value than a human life, you're FUBAR. Hence, an entire FUBAR religion.
Look at the most violent places in the world today, Chechnya, Somalia, Nigeria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan. What do they all have in common? Exactly. Good job "religion of peace".
 
Fuck Afghans, fuck Afghanistan, fuck the fucking Quran. If you think that a book has more value than a human life, you're FUBAR. Hence, an entire FUBAR religion.
Look at the most violent places in the world today, Chechnya, Somalia, Nigeria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan. What do they all have in common? Exactly. Good job "religion of peace".

Amen to that!!
 
Fuck Afghans, fuck Afghanistan, fuck the fucking Quran. If you think that a book has more value than a human life, you're FUBAR. Hence, an entire FUBAR religion.
Look at the most violent places in the world today, Chechnya, Somalia, Nigeria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan. What do they all have in common? Exactly. Good job "religion of peace".

and in the last years post WWII the "christian nation" of the US has killed more people than all of them combined via the US military and covert ops by the CIA so your point is what exactly?
 
LAM stands for Love All Muslims
 
LAM-Another Muslim Sympathizer

no it's called not being an idiot...In the 90's I was exactly where you are now in the military...

the US government has been "fighting" communism for the past decades not to spread democracy but to spread capitalism, the same applies to the fake war on terror. when country's open up their economy's to the world market and especially the US financial sector things go from bad to worst for them and they all eventually end up in hock to the IMF and World Bank. at that point it is basically game over you are their bitch now.

seriously you guys should really try reading, it's all about the debt game...
 
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no it's called not being an idiot...In the 90's I was exactly where you are now in the military...

the US government has been "fighting" communism for the past decades not to spread democracy but to spread capitalism, the same applies to the fake war on terror. when country's open up their economy's to the world market and especially the US financial sector things go from bad to worst for them and they all eventually end up in hock to the IMF and World Bank. at that point it is basically game over you are their bitch now.

seriously you guys should really try reading, it's all about the debt game...

I'm just bustin' your balls bro. I think we've seen different eras in battle. What I've seen, and what I'm exposed to shows me how these animals really live. I can't stand 'em, bro.
 
I'm just bustin' your balls bro. I think we've seen different eras in battle. What I've seen, and what I'm exposed to shows me how these animals really live. I can't stand 'em, bro.

I was in Iraq during Dessert Shield and Storm. I highly doubt things have changed much in 2 decades the middle east is pretty much the same now as it was 500 years ago. I was working at the embassy in Baghdad 4-5 years ago as well.

things were shitty then and they are shitty now but it's a different world over there, lots of places and people in the world much different than those that come from the states.
 
I was reading it while taking a dump..Last month ^^true story
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I was in Iraq during Dessert Shield and Storm. I highly doubt things have changed much in 2 decades the middle east is pretty much the same now as it was 500 years ago. I was working at the embassy in Baghdad 4-5 years ago as well.

things were shitty then and they are shitty now but it's a different world over there, lots of places and people in the world much different than those that come from the states.

It is different in the aspect of who the enemy is. In Desert Storm, the U.S. wasn't exposed to IED's (at least not on the level we are since we've been over there) Desert Storm wasn't worried about suicide bombings, etc.

If they did happen, it certainly wasn't as prevalent as it is now.
 
What do you expect....Obama is a fucking Muslim. Fuck those sand niggas and there Quran. They brought this fight to us. I think people have already forgot about 9-11. It makes me sick every time I hear about another American soldier who has died over there. A-stan should be a fucking parking lot by now.
 
What do you expect....Obama is a fucking Muslim. Fuck those sand niggas and there Quran. They brought this fight to us. I think people have already forgot about 9-11.

the 9-11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia...not Iraq or Afghanistan
 
What I find funny is that the same people who are outraged by us apologizing would be equally outraged if they were burning our flag or the bible. Especially that fat hypocrite Newt.
 
I was in Iraq during Dessert Shield and Storm. I highly doubt things have changed much in 2 decades the middle east is pretty much the same now as it was 500 years ago. I was working at the embassy in Baghdad 4-5 years ago as well.

things were shitty then and they are shitty now but it's a different world over there, lots of places and people in the world much different than those that come from the states.


How was that? Must've been pretty f***** delicious. Hahahaha
 
How was that? Must've been pretty f***** delicious. Hahahaha

Watching the Bunker send off those cruise missiles on Day 1 was pretty fuking sweet..
 
What I find funny is that the same people who are outraged by us apologizing would be equally outraged if they were burning our flag or the bible. Especially that fat hypocrite Newt.

one of many reasons why that sociopath will never set foot inside 1600 PA unless on tour. He would be absolutely horrible at diplomacy on a variety of levels. they (neo-cons) still haven't figured out that not everyone is scared of the US or afraid to die.
 
Watching the Bunker send off those cruise missiles on Day 1 was pretty fuking sweet..

I remember watching the videos and seeing Saddam's army launching scud missiles from the roof tops, then seeing a barrage of cruise missiles and hell fire missiles completely annihilate their targets. :winkfinger:
 
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It is different in the aspect of who the enemy is. In Desert Storm, the U.S. wasn't exposed to IED's

the electronic radio frequency modules for those were traced back to a US company.
 
the electronic radio frequency modules for those were traced back to a US company.

You can buy everything to make a bomb at RadioShack, the point being? Who cares, the US like so many major nations sells to others so some dude buys some radio part that was made here and now we are the bad guy? That sounds like either you are just making a shitty point or more so blaming the victim... :hmmm:
 
You can buy everything to make a bomb at RadioShack, the point being? Who cares, the US like so many major nations sells to others so some dude buys some radio part that was made here and now we are the bad guy? That sounds like either you are just making a shitty point or more so blaming the victim... :hmmm:



I think his point was that we basically arm those fucking people for a quick buck and/or play nice and work with us on covert operations only to turn around and get hit in the face with it down the road. Who do you think armed Saddam? Who fucking created the Taliban? It wasn't Afghanistan, it was the good ole US of A.

I think it is fucking hilarious.
 
I'm just bustin' your balls bro. I think we've seen different eras in battle. What I've seen, and what I'm exposed to shows me how these animals really live. I can't stand 'em, bro.

You do realize that "the animals" are thinking the exact thing about you?

Just making a point not expressing an opinion so hold of the muslim-lover stuff.
 
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