Which is the stronger cycle?

[pasamoto]

Cycle1: 350mg of test prop/tren ace/mast prop for 1050mg a week total
Cycke2: 1050mg of test E stacked with 200mg tren E for 1250mg a week total.
I know cycle 2 has more mg, but they are long esters.

 

[Standard Donkey]

cycle 1



actually no, cycle 2, didnt see the masteron in cycle one (week steroid)

 

[dieseljimmy]

Cycle 2 may be slightly "stronger"
but I would rather have cycle 1

 

[BIGBEN2011]

cylcle 1 is a lot better cycle.but i have ran cycle 2 and it was good to just takes tren e a while to kick in.cycle one is faster results cycle 2 is slower results but you can get the same results at the end with both.i am going to be running cycle 1 for my summer cutter cycle.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Cycle 2 is stronger and will deliver more size & mass gains, no question.

 

[jshel12]

I would say cycle 2 is "stronger" but cycle 1 is a real nice cutting cycle

 

[the_predator]

Either way you look at it...you need to up the tren dose

 

[pasamoto]

so if i ran cycle 1 to cut/recomp for 8wk then immediately jumped on cycle 2 to bulk up for 8wk this could be a good plan. (suggestions on altering cycle 2?) i have a decent amount of test,tren, mast. both long and short esters.

 

[StanG]

Im not a huge fan of muti purpose cycles. Thats just me, I am kind of old fashioned.

 

[jshel12]

If you wanted to get into better shape or lower bodyfat before bulking then yes you could run cycle 1 then 2. I personally would run cycle 2 for 10-12 weeks then transition to cycle 1 for 8-12 weeks either immediately or cruise on low dose test for 6-8 weeks in between (I blast and cruise if you don't you could run 1 after another or take a little break in between for recovery. Most importantly I would make sure your diet and cardio is on point. For cycle 2 you may not need cardio or just a little seeing how you don't want body fat really high but also making sure your eating enough quality calories to put on some decent muscle. And for cycle 1 I would definately add in cardio and eat really clean (with a cheat here and there). I think the effects of masterone would not be fully seen if you are not pretty lean.

 

[oufinny]

Is it me or is that not a really low dose of tren E? I thought you would want to approach at least a 3:1 ratio of test:tren. With the ester you are barely at 150mg of tren per week.

 

[the_predator]

Fuck man, I have taken right around 650mg of tren e per week before. Wanted to literally rape my wife all the time(got into many fights about sex) and woke up in a pile of sweat every morning but, I was a fucking juggernaut in the gym. Strong as fuck. Other then that not to many sides. Would I do it again, probably not. Almost got divorced because of the sex issue and pretty much wanted to kill everyone. I have found that 400mg per week is my sweet spot but everyone is different.

 

[SFW]

Keep in mind mg for mg, tren is several times stronger than test. And mast has good synegry with tren/test.

I think cycle 2 would yield bigger gains as far as mass is concerned.

Cycle 1...i would prefer for myself, especially on a recomp. That mix is my personal favorite and that dosage (50/50/50) has yielded me great results.

 

[pasamoto]

i just ran sust/npp/mast for 8wks. test was at 850mg and npp and mast were at 350mg each for a total of 1600mg a week. gained 10lbs and skinfolds balerly increased. i just dont feel the npp added anything to the cycle. im basicaly trying to come up with a better bulking cycle. thinking that cycle2 would be bettter option