which one would you guys choose?

[spanieren]

Hey guys.
Age 18
Height 175
Weight 74


I?ll start my first time on later on this year and are right now in the planning zone
I?ve found a couple of things i find interresting, but I?m not very smart about this kind of stuff yet, so I?d like some advice maybe.
1 Which of theese will be the one were i overall gain the biggest potion of mass, were I will be able to keep as much as possible.. sum up= wich one gives the biggest none lossable gain.
2 Which are the better for the price?
3 would you guys use another PCT


Trip1 8weeks + pct:
week: 1-8 Primobolan 200mg weekly (up it?)
week: 1-8 Dianabol 15mg daily (up it?)
week: 1-8 anastrozole 1mg daily (cos of the dianabol, or is it not needed?)
PCT
week: 10: 1x5000 iu HCG (10.000 better?)
week: 10-12: 1 mg anastrozole(or nolva, what is best?) daily
week: 13-14: ? mg anastrozole daily


Trip2 8weeks + pct:
week: 1-8 Primobolan 200mg weekly (up it?)
week: 1-8 Anavar 15mg daily (up it?)
(week: 4-8 maybe add some d-bol what do you guys think, and how much?)
PCT
week: 10: 1x5000 iu HCG (10.000 better?)
week: 10-12: 1 mg anastrozole(or nolva, what is best?) daily
week: 13-14: ? mg anastrozole daily


last question, what is the maxprice you?d pay for something like nr 1 or 2?

 

[OTG85]

Your 18 try some creatine and protein squirt!

 

[sendit08]

Hey guys.
Age 18
Height 175
Weight 74


I?ll start my first time on later on this year and are right now in the planning zone
I?ve found a couple of things i find interresting, but I?m not very smart about this kind of stuff yet, so I?d like some advice maybe.
1 Which of theese will be the one were i overall gain the biggest potion of mass, were I will be able to keep as much as possible.. sum up= wich one gives the biggest none lossable gain.
2 Which are the better for the price?
3 would you guys use another PCT


Trip1 8weeks + pct:
week: 1-8 Primobolan 200mg weekly (up it?)
week: 1-8 Dianabol 15mg daily (up it?)
week: 1-8 anastrozole 1mg daily (cos of the dianabol, or is it not needed?)
PCT
week: 10: 1x5000 iu HCG (10.000 better?)
week: 10-12: 1 mg anastrozole(or nolva, what is best?) daily
week: 13-14: ? mg anastrozole daily


Trip2 8weeks + pct:
week: 1-8 Primobolan 200mg weekly (up it?)
week: 1-8 Anavar 15mg daily (up it?)
(week: 4-8 maybe add some d-bol what do you guys think, and how much?)
PCT
week: 10: 1x5000 iu HCG (10.000 better?)
week: 10-12: 1 mg anastrozole(or nolva, what is best?) daily
week: 13-14: ? mg anastrozole daily


last question, what is the maxprice you?d pay for something like nr 1 or 2?

you cant be serious...
my little sister took that second option and gained 2lbs.
you are obviously not informed enough to take this stuff.
and definitely wayyyy to young

 

[ReadyFW]

Too young

 

[h3o]

i wish i was 18 and producing my own natural test again... just train hard, eat right, and sleep tight.

 

[rwm088]

We are not trying to bust your balls but what the people said above me is true. That is way to young in my view. You didn't say how long you have been lifting so I am assuming not long at all. Train for 3-5 years naturally so you will establish a good foundational base, then consider getting on it. Be patient, look at the big picture.

 

[plazmic]

For the record, both cycles are poor... assuming oral primo: are you worried about needles? For future references, HCG should be split over time to avoid leydig cell desensitization but because you're still pubertal you shouldn't touch anything that impacts your HPTA.

A chicken breast or even cheeseburger is more anabolic than any cycle ESPECIALLY @ 176 lbs.

I'm sure the argument of "you're young and have plenty of natural test" goes unheard, but here's something you need to understand:

The "dangers" of cycling young are not exactly quantifiable and are hugely variable between people... but Oestrogens stimulate secondary sexual characteristics and epiphyseal fusion primarily by modulation of the GH-insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I) axis.

In other words, elevated estradiol will prematurely trigger growth plate fusion. However, that doesn't necessarily mean you will stunt your growth as other studies indicate a reversal of the process after recovery. Its also important to realize that even with non-aromitizing compounds, your IGF-1 axis is affected.

The bottom line is that at any dosage and even compounds like var WILL impact your pubertal growth -- to what degree or consequence they will have (if any) is too variable to generalize.

Here's an actual study supportive of this:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/709359/The role of sex steroids in controlling pubertal growth.pdf

Outside of growth, the possibility to permanently desensitize your testicle's leydig cells (that produce natural testosterone) is even higher at your age, and I don't think the problems that pose require any further explanation.

 

[plazmic]

To answer your questions directly:

1. A cheeseburger
2. A cheeseburger
3. More cheeseburgers
4. $4.99 for a double, and as much as $14.99 if I'm out for dinner and its local beef.

 

[independent]

Leo.

 

[_LG_]

Just use trenbolone

 

[Darth]

Unless you are in line for the Olympics or similar, considering AAS before 25 (conservative) or even 21 (very aggressive) is just foolish. You are nowhere near your natural potential yet and starting AAS now will permanently lower your natural peak. Get closer to your natural peak and the AAS can take you over.

If you are a confirmed idiot though, stick to test for your first cycle and make sure you follow and ancillary protocol. Hey, the phamaceutical companies will love you though as they will be selling you shit for the rest of your life just to feel normal.

 

[spanieren]

Just to sum up, I?ve been training for a while eventhough my weight dont quite show it.
- Plazmic, I WASNT thinking about primo as oral.

But hey thanks all, I?ll stay off. Just I?d heard i could gaine massivly (maybe a big word to use here) from a weak Primo-Anavar.

 

[sendit08]

Just to sum up, I?ve been training for a while eventhough my weight dont quite show it.
- Plazmic, I WASNT thinking about primo as oral.

But hey thanks all, I?ll stay off. Just I?d heard i could gaine massivly (maybe a big word to use here) from a weak Primo-Anavar.

whoever told you, or wherever you read that you can gain massively from primo and anavar... dont listen to them anymore. they know nothing.



I hope you are serious about not cycling.
You will gain nothing in the long run from those compounds anyways.