Why do so many people have an undeveloped chest?

[TheCurse]

I used so much PH...

I think I disrupted my natural Hormone Prod...

Took six months to get back in the saddle

umm, well, monkey man, you know your not supposed to run anything like a ph or aas continuously right? you do know that all research points to the ability to run ph's and aas safely when one follows all the safety precautions with regards to frequency of use, correct post cycle therapy, and consistent blood work reading, right?
or are you one of the ones we have to thank for the ban?

 

[turbine5]

this shit is cracking me up. i love it when these waif-like twinkys try and come in and tell everyone how to lift. i got news for you kids. your naturally defined because your naturally skinny. show me some seriously developed muscle bellies and i might give you some respect. but you have none. go back to the little kids table. isnt there a 'tweens' forum we can direct these children to?

....what's a muscle belly?

 

[dAMvN]

im sorry, but who the fuck are you? Just some ethug punk who thinks he knows it all because you have a good physique? I have zero to say anything about lifting weights? Why? What do you know about me? Are you judging me because of the way i look right now? That pic was taken a while ago, im much bigger than that. Maybe i started serious lifting 4 months ago, read a whole variety of nutritional and bodybuilding books and i hate to say it, but i probably know more than you do. I dont post a pic every 2 seconds just to show off. Keep posting pics of your pathetic self to brag and act like you know everything. Real tough.

Thug? lol your the one passing judgment on me. I posted those 3 new pics because Turkey ball Randy decided to wrank on my 15 year old pic. Not knowing my story. And no I said you have Zero to say about liftin weights because 1 yes you look like shit. and 2nd because you make post for no reason. Listin and read b4 you try and comment about things. Live threw it maybe. I'm not going to go read up about Steroids then go give adivce. No live threw it and walk in those shoes then you can comment about things.

 

[Witmaster]

 

[TheCurse]

....what's a muscle belly?

heres one

 

[shiznit2169]

I'm not going to go read up about Steroids then go give adivce. No live threw it and walk in those shoes then you can comment about things.

wtf u bringing up steroids for? lol wow. I never said anything about steroids if that's what you're getting at, and it's live "through" it. Maybe master the english and grammar skills before you start talking about BB. Also didn't i say that pic was taken a while ago, like a year 1/2? I'm bigger than that but you didn't read "carefully". live threw it man, live threw it. You're a joke, im done with you.

 

[Duncans Donuts]

If it were as simple as eating right and lifting right, everyone could have the potential to be huge. SO in that reality, it is to an extent. Of course that quote was taken out of context without the, "for beginners and intermediates, that's pretty much true", but that was ignored.

I have found that it isn't just eating right, it's eating at the right time; not just lifting right, but using new techniques, exercises, intervals, and etcetera that keep me from not losing what I've tried so hard to gain. The point is that at a certain point, closer to a genetic potential, with no steroids, you have to think a lot harder where old methods just don't do it anymore.

 

[dAMvN]

wtf u bringing up steroids for? lol wow. I never said anything about steroids if that's what you're getting at, and it's live "through" it. Maybe master the english and grammar skills before you start talking about BB. Also didn't i say that pic was taken a while ago, like a year 1/2? I'm bigger than that but you didn't read "carefully". live threw it man, live threw it. You're a joke, im done with you.

I didint say you said anything about roids, wut I said was it's like if I talk about roids when I never even taken roids. Your talking about liftin weights when u only been doin it for 4 months and doin it incorrect most likely. And I never said I was BB cuz I aint, I workout to look good. BB is when you go tot he gym 6 times a week. I sometimes make it to the gym 3 times a week. Dont get me wrong I take it seriously, but I know I aint no freakin BB, I just know what I'm doin and making myself look good. My point is.... You dont know shit because you havint worked out long enough to know anything. ALl you do is read and think you know. On the other hand, I listin keep my mouth shut, learn and train harder than you.

 

[P-funk]

If it were as simple as eating right and lifting right, everyone could have the potential to be huge. SO in that reality, it is to an extent. Of course that quote was taken out of context without the, "for beginners and intermediates, that's pretty much true", but that was ignored.

I have found that it isn't just eating right, it's eating at the right time; not just lifting right, but using new techniques, exercises, intervals, and etcetera that keep me from not losing what I've tried so hard to gain. The point is that at a certain point, closer to a genetic potential, with no steroids, you have to think a lot harder where old methods just don't do it anymore.

why would anyone disagree with that?

 

[PTYP]

Whats funny, is all the bashing started over a debate whether or not soreness is a prerequisite to growth.

 

[Randy]

and randy.. please man just leave me alone I really dont want to go back and forth with you. I know im not weaka nd the wind doesint blow me over cuz I'll knock u on ur ass whenever youd like. but dude ama be the bigger mana nd tell you i'm sorry 4 putting u out like dat. my know how about working out isint shit man cuz why do I look like this and u look like that? you say im skinny? right can a skinny person put up da weight I put up? na sorry. I admit my flaws cuz we all have em (incept arnold) lol but dont put me out to be some dumbass that talks out of his ass.

daMvN,
You call this being a bigger man with your poor excuse for an apology.
You have a lot to learn little boy. For one thing, those that have a good physique definitely don't spout off their mouths and brag about it. Second, they don't put other people down. What's funny is that I hear this time and time again from people that are tiny trying to draw attention to themselves. Then you post a picture of yourself saying it was your most current and that everyone was supposed to be impressed. What was funny is your hands behind your biceps trying to push against them from behind to make them look bigger. Again, being a tiny boy like you are you definitely don't want to brag to others. Now as for me I am benching about 300lbs @ 5 reps and have quite extensive gains since I started working out about 2 years ago. I am by far not a weak man. I have some body fat to combat as well. I think each and every one of us have areas to improve. But I'm not here to give you my progress report. I'm just trying to make you realize how stupid you really sound here. And if you want to continue with your childish insults and continue with your pathetic plea for attention, well you go for it. Oh, and one last thing about your Old Man Comment.. If you think being in your forty's is an old man, you???re more stupid then I thought. But be careful, as you will be there before you know it little boy. But then again, with a mouth like yours, you never know .

 

[Randy]

why would anyone disagree with that?

You would be surprised P-funk

 

[god hand]

All you do is read and think you know. On the other hand, I listin keep my mouth shut, learn and train harder than you.

There is so many people on this thread that all they do is read......and read and read and fuckin read!

 

[god hand]

If it were as simple as eating right and lifting right, everyone could have the potential to be huge. SO in that reality, it is to an extent. Of course that quote was taken out of context without the, "for beginners and intermediates, that's pretty much true", but that was ignored.

Answer thread question please!

 

[gopro]

My answer to the original thread question...because they do not know how to set up their body before beginning and chest press or flye in order to properly recruit the pec muscles. Most people press with their delts.

 

[animalmachine]

Better to read than expatiate drivel

 

[god hand]

My answer to the original thread question...because they do not know how to set up their body before beginning and chest press or flye in order to properly recruit the pec muscles. Most people press with their delts.

And whats the way to counter this.........

 

[turbine5]

My answer to the original thread question...because they do not know how to set up their body before beginning and chest press or flye in order to properly recruit the pec muscles. Most people press with their delts.

I've never really noticed this before, I know when benching you use your tri's and delts somewhat, but how do you mess up and press with your delts? Is it the placement of the bar when its up or down causing this?

thanks

 

[GFR]

yes, just started. and one day i might even try aas. as you cast your judgements, hopefully you will realize i could give a shit, and in so knowing this you might realize how fruitless a life you have indeed if everything you do is designed to impress those around you.

Why so bitter?

 

[Randy]

My answer to the original thread question...because they do not know how to set up their body before beginning and chest press or flye in order to properly recruit the pec muscles. Most people press with their delts.

Hey there Gopro...long time no see. How ya doin buddy?

 

[GFR]

If it were as simple as eating right and lifting right, everyone could have the potential to be huge. SO in that reality, it is to an extent. Of course that quote was taken out of context without the, "for beginners and intermediates, that's pretty much true", but that was ignored.

I have found that it isn't just eating right, it's eating at the right time; not just lifting right, but using new techniques, exercises, intervals, and etcetera that keep me from not losing what I've tried so hard to gain. The point is that at a certain point, closer to a genetic potential, with no steroids, you have to think a lot harder where old methods just don't do it anymore.

Exactly, as I said pages and pages ago "training properly and eating well"...... and the meat of my comment was later repeated and the simple truth of it ignored.

 

[Randy]

ForemanRules,

Were you dropped on your head when you were a baby?

 

[GFR]

ForemanRules,

Were you dropped on your head when you were a baby?

_______________.insert the out of control laughing in the blank space .

 

[gopro]

And whats the way to counter this.........

-lay down on the bench and set your feet firmly on the floor
-arch your lower back slightly
-raise your ribcage up high
-squeeze the scapula together
-pull your shoulders downward

Now you are in the correct position to achieve maximum pectoral recruitment with far less tricep and delt interference. The key is to keep your body in this position throughout the set. It is not enough to simply start this way. Learn to ???lock??? your body like this while you bench press, or perform any chest press or flye movement for that matter.

Once you begin your set, make sure to keep your elbows wide and under your wrists. Lower the bar to just about nipple level (this may vary slightly among individuals) under full control???bouncing is a major no no???and then push to the top in an explosive fashion.

This may seem strange at first, but once you master it, it will be time for some bigger shirts my friend!

 

[Duncans Donuts]

Answer thread question please!

Why do people keep trying to ruffle my feathers?

Foreman, you oversimplified. Therefore I disagreed with your statement as such. A basic schematic of getting to the moon doesn't include details, but I can assure you that the details will be the only thing that deliver your achievement. I just don't agree with overlooking as such.

Why do people have underdeveloped chest? I don't think people do. Most people I know have underdeveloped legs. Remember that the length of the muscle-belly (and length of the tendon) is not consistent in the body. That means someone with huge biceps and quads may not have similar genetic potential in their chest. So what may be underdeveloped by someones seriously unnecessary judgement-call may in fact be proportionally developed relative to his own capacity.

I really don't see underdeveloped chests that often, when I do it's usually because that's all they focus on.

 

[animalmachine]

... and somehow this thread pulled out useful information - Thanks Gopro!

 

[gopro]

... and somehow this thread pulled out useful information - Thanks Gopro!

You are welcome. I just saw how big this thread was getting and wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I just figured that the original question might have gotten lost in the mix, lol!

 

[god hand]

-lay down on the bench and set your feet firmly on the floor. Check!

-arch your lower back slightly. Check? My lower back should not be flat on the bench?

-raise your ribcage up high. Check?.... this y I should arch my lower back otherwise I wouldnt be able to do this.

-squeeze the scapula together. Check!

-pull your shoulders downward. ? Do u mean downward as in keep them close to mybody? Or do u mean dont spread them to wide?

 

[GFR]

Why do people keep trying to ruffle my feathers?

Foreman, you oversimplified. Therefore I disagreed with your statement as such. A basic schematic of getting to the moon doesn't include details, but I can assure you that the details will be the only thing that deliver your achievement. I just don't agree with overlooking as such.

Why do people have underdeveloped chest? I don't think people do. Most people I know have underdeveloped legs. Remember that the length of the muscle-belly (and length of the tendon) is not consistent in the body. That means someone with huge biceps and quads may not have similar genetic potential in their chest. So what may be underdeveloped by someones seriously unnecessary judgement-call may in fact be proportionally developed relative to his own capacity.

I really don't see underdeveloped chests that often, when I do it's usually because that's all they focus on.

My quote was exactly right. Oversimplified??? what is this advanced Bio mechanics and a PHD Nutrition class For people to attack comments because they don't go into enough detail is just silly. If people want to go in to massive detail how the body grows and heals ect. then go write a book.....or start an educational thread devoted to it .

 

[gopro]

-lay down on the bench and set your feet firmly on the floor. Check!

-arch your lower back slightly. Check? My lower back should not be flat on the bench?

-raise your ribcage up high. Check?.... this y I should arch my lower back otherwise I wouldnt be able to do this.

-squeeze the scapula together. Check!

-pull your shoulders downward. ? Do u mean downward as in keep them close to mybody? Or do u mean dont spread them to wide?

-Yes, the lower back will be ever so slightly off the bench, but not too much!
-Yes, in order to raise the rib cage you need to slightly arch the back and push that chest foward.
-Pull the shoulders downward as in "SHRUG" them down.