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faller said:
I'm :confused: , are you saying his routine is good? And you would help anyone that wants to follow it? Why??
I give IRON MAN training a C+
 
faller said:
I'm :confused: , are you saying his routine is good? And you would help anyone that wants to follow it? Why??
Yes I liked his routine. I tweak it to suit myself, but stay within the parimeters of his routine.

Now why would I help others. Why not, I did it when his forum was up. Isn't this what this forum is about, helping others.

Remember I'm not a personal trainer and never will be one. I've been on this site for almost two years with almost 6000 post. I'm not looking for another business as i'm retired and plan on staying that way.

I really believe Iron Man did this to try and make a name for himself as that's his business (PT) away from the bodybuilding sites. There's a lot of money to be made training people online. But if your going to deceive the people online in order to make yourself look, then to fuck with you.

One more thing and I'll lay this to rest. I have a PM from him still that says when he told me he was Dewayne, that Dewayne is his best friend who is bigger then him and been a personal trainer for years. Dewayne = Mr. Biceps. They live in the same house. So I'm not sure who was really answering the questions, Ronnie "Iron Man" or Dewayne "Mr. Biceps".
 
"Why is Ironman training forum gone?"

Who the fuck cares.
 
P-funk said:
"Why is Ironman training forum gone?"

Who the fuck cares.


Because he was a Super Trainer.. :shrug:
 
BigDyl said:
Because he was a Super Trainer.. :shrug:
True story, his 18.75 arms were so amazing he could claim them to be 22 and 90% of the people on the net believed him.
 
I think there is a lot of behind the scene's shit going on that we know nothing about. Things turned so fast that before we realized what was going on , it was over. Hell i even lost post counts, how eery is that?:confused:

I know some of the things he would say made me feel uncomfortable, things like " some so called pt's " and than rattle off some names, i think that was wrong. But i liked his program, i made some decent gains off it. Still doing it and will continue to do so. If he ever gets his own site up i hope to be there.

Also, i'd like to apologize to you T.O.M. my earlier post was out of line. I broke the cardinal rule... Take a step back and think things through before posting.
 
Tough Old Man said:
I'll answer this for you and the idiot Faller.

He sent me an email one day preaching religion to me. He told me drinking is a sin and that god would help me if I asked for help. I told him hell I only drink maybe once a week at the most and I didn't need god's help to stop drinking. He didn't like that reponse I guess as he then told me then he would no longer help me with my training if i was going to be a sinner.

I told Ronnie that hell he has admitted to lying to me and a few others and he should worry about his own sins. That really pissed him off and he said he and I was done.

Then the next day I receive this PM

PT I apologize to you for hiding my identity and will tell you straight up I have been dis-respected by some of the staff on this board. Now I am forced to build my own website and be selective in what info I put out without charging.

20 min's later I get this one and this is when i turned on him.

Sorry PT,

But I just saw were your left HIP was slamming me once again in a thread called who would you hire as a personal trainer?

Anyone associated with Foreman the ASSCLOWN will never be invited to my site. Sorry .:(


Now like I can stop Foreman from bashing him on another post and he takes it out on me.

So as far as I'm concerned, he brought it on himself by his lies and the bullshit above.



Alright, thanks Tom. I didn't realize any of that stuff was going on. It was just weird how fast it happened. I will say this again, I did like his routine though. I was under the impression that you two were friends offline, I didn't realize you had never met him. Oh well though, shit happens.
 
P-funk said:
"Why is Ironman training forum gone?"

Who the fuck cares.

Ah, P's words of wisdom. Gotta love 'em. Haha.
 
joesmooth20 said:
what training would you suggest?
I like gopro's routine and the advice of CowPimp and P-funk is excellent.
 
fletcher6490 said:
I have done Iron Man's program for the last 9 weeks or so and I really like it. I have made pretty descent gains so far. I don't know why everyone was tearing him up. Foreman, i'm not trying to pick a fight but it's amazing how much pull you have on this site and how easily you can persuade other members to hate on someone.
Sounds like a nazi!:banned:
 
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Anyone remember this?

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I know Mr Biceps thru the old AnabolicFreakz and later MMI. If Ironman is really Mr Biceps, then we all owe Dogcrapp a BIG apology.


From DC:

their IP addresses match exactly

"This guy Ironman was asking newbie questions a short while back and thought up of a way he could make money (in the long run). Go head and follow him and even sign up for his training advice (when he starts charging in the future)--he isnt a dummy. He just likes to bullshit people to further himself ahead."
 
JerseyDevil said:
Anyone remember this?

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I know Mr Biceps thru the old AnabolicFreakz and later MMI. If Ironman is really Mr Biceps, then we all owe Dogcrapp a BIG apology.


From DC:

their IP addresses match exactly

"This guy Ironman was asking newbie questions a short while back and thought up of a way he could make money (in the long run). Go head and follow him and even sign up for his training advice (when he starts charging in the future)--he isnt a dummy. He just likes to bullshit people to further himself ahead."

Just like yesterday.
 
JerseyDevil said:
Anyone remember this?

Originally Posted by JerseyDevil
I know Mr Biceps thru the old AnabolicFreakz and later MMI. If Ironman is really Mr Biceps, then we all owe Dogcrapp a BIG apology.


From DC:

their IP addresses match exactly

"This guy Ironman was asking newbie questions a short while back and thought up of a way he could make money (in the long run). Go head and follow him and even sign up for his training advice (when he starts charging in the future)--he isnt a dummy. He just likes to bullshit people to further himself ahead."

I thought the whole thing was shakey from the beginning, but a lot of people seemed to enjoy his program so I tried to leave it alone. When he started preaching information lacking any kind of foundation I couldn't let that slide.
 
Omg

OMG!!!!!!

I haven't been on this site for a week and look...

For the record I did not leave the forum due to finacial gain. I left the forum due to all the jealousy-hateful remarks from other trainers such as pimp and funk and due to the fact the staff running this board wouldnt keep Foreman and ToughOldMans drama off my board. And yes I will have over-head with my new site and I may have to charge a small admission price to cover that that later on down the road but hopefully I can get sponsors. Dante was wrong about me and when I tried to patch things up with him I was ignored. Not to mention he and IA was calling me a scum bag behind my back. So, yes I WAS ANGRY. Who wouldnt be. But my door is stil open to Dante fr patching things up. THE BALL is in his court.

Robert knows the truth about what happened and yes I was told TOM has his hands in some things behind the scenes on this board and another one, hint hint.;)

Now I made it clear to TOM that he and Foreman were not allowed on my site when it gets started because of the clown act they bring to the circus and in an about way TOM then said he would lie to make me look bad if thats rhat it took. He Knows Im telling the truth and so does everyone else who isnt wearing blinders! All I can tell him is grow up and quit the drinking or leave me along! Its your choice TOM!!! Straighten up if you want to be a member of my board!;)

TOM knew I trained a guy who died after winning the mr.Hawaii and there were false rumors started I was a national contender is beyond me?? Who could that have been TOM??:hmmm: :bulb: Tom knew my real name at Pro Muscle and I told him there were more than 1 mr.biceps so when he took my back because he hated DC and wanted to beat the cycling for pennies thread. TOM also promised to never mention things we discussed in private and has already broken that trust.

As a matter of fact things were fine at PM until TOM showed up!!!! He kept saying things like IRONMANS training was better than DOGGCRAPPS and had me to intentionally post stuff to aggravate DC. Well it worked and put DANTE on the move to hating me. I retaliated back like a dummy and the thing snowballed out of control. I'll take some of the blame on that for listenin gto TOM because I knew better but I was not copying others training methods and I was hot when wrongly accused! :mad:

In additon TOM kept saying he was wanting to come visist me and stay at my house for a week or two and was looking up my personal records so I got a little squirrly and told him my name was my friends name Dewayne who was also mr.biceps on a few boards.:bulb: TOM "HOUNDED"
me relentlessly about my true identity and thats just plain RUDE after all the help I have given to him free of charge behnd the scenes!!! Not to mention the fact I was told by some of the DCers that TOM was possibly working as an undercover agent due to all of his flip-flopping back and forth. Very unstable man at times..:suicide:

I have no quarrel with funk and cow pimp other than the way they have shown dis-repsect towards me. Usually this thing occurs out of envy but I was partly responsible because when I first showed up I didnt include them when I mentioned personal trainers on this baord because I thought GO-PRO was the only other trainer. So they felt dis-repsected and we got off to a bad start. Not to mention i arrived with drama following and was getting a litle unstable myself...lol I apologized behind the scenes to Funk and COW butwas unforgiven. :( Both mods know a geat deal about training and I think they are an asset to the bodybuilding community when they display the proper attitude.



I encourage everyone to LET IT GO!! Theres a lesson to be learned here. I know I sure did..
 
The only time I said anything disrespectful to you was when you flipped out in response to something I said that wasn't directed at you. It was regarding a comment on programs for juiced up people, and I was talking about Arnold's training advice, not yours. You flipped out and I said it wasn't directed at you. Other than that, you are just mad that I disagreed with you and you had no backing for your statements.
 
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I only flipped out on you when you disagreed with me and then, you would write things in a tone like you were talking down to me because you were angry that you had no way of backing up anything you were saying. You would get pissed off and start quoting things like Louie Simmons and then i would post specific articles showing you were you were wrong.

:rolleyes:
 
CowPimp said:
The only time I said anything disrespectful to you was when you flipped out in response to something I said that wasn't directed at you. It was regarding a comment on programs for juiced up people, and I was talking about Arnold's training advice, not yours. You flipped out and I said it wasn't directed at you. Other than that, you are just mad that I disagreed with you and you had no backing for your statements.

Not at all..You and Funk gained up on me and many have complained about it to me in PM'S including TOM. Many times I would ansewer a question in the opn training forum and you flamed me without reason or justification. You guys hold grudges!:(

Listen CP everyone has differnt training techniques and theories. Just because your religious beliefs about GOD may differ a bit from mine doesn't mean either of us are wrong!Its that simple!;)
 
IRON MAN said:
Just because your religious beliefs about GOD may differ a bit from mine doesn't mean either of us are wrong!

How does God get involved into this?

Why must religion be the root of all evil?:bulb:
 
IRON MAN said:
OMG!!!!!!

I haven't been on this site for a week and look...

For the record I did not leave the forum due to finacial gain. I left the forum due to all the jealousy-hateful remarks from other trainers such as pimp and funk and due to the fact the staff running this board wouldnt keep Foreman and ToughOldMans drama off my board. And yes I will have over-head with my new site and I may have to charge a small admission price to cover that that later on down the road but hopefully I can get sponsors. Dante was wrong about me and when I tried to patch things up with him I was ignored. Not to mention he and IA was calling me a scum bag behind my back. So, yes I WAS ANGRY. Who wouldnt be. But my door is stil open to Dante fr patching things up. THE BALL is in his court.

Robert knows the truth about what happened and yes I was told TOM has his hands in some things behind the scenes on this board and another one, hint hint.;)

Now I made it clear to TOM that he and Foreman were not allowed on my site when it gets started because of the clown act they bring to the circus and in an about way TOM then said he would lie to make me look bad if thats rhat it took. He Knows Im telling the truth and so does everyone else who isnt wearing blinders! All I can tell him is grow up and quit the drinking or leave me along! Its your choice TOM!!! Straighten up if you want to be a member of my board!;)

TOM knew I trained a guy who died after winning the mr.Hawaii and there were false rumors started I was a national contender is beyond me?? Who could that have been TOM??:hmmm: :bulb: Tom knew my real name at Pro Muscle and I told him there were more than 1 mr.biceps so when he took my back because he hated DC and wanted to beat the cycling for pennies thread. TOM also promised to never mention things we discussed in private and has already broken that trust.

As a matter of fact things were fine at PM until TOM showed up!!!! He kept saying things like IRONMANS training was better than DOGGCRAPPS and had me to intentionally post stuff to aggravate DC. Well it worked and put DANTE on the move to hating me. I retaliated back like a dummy and the thing snowballed out of control. I'll take some of the blame on that for listenin gto TOM because I knew better but I was not copying others training methods and I was hot when wrongly accused! :mad:

In additon TOM kept saying he was wanting to come visist me and stay at my house for a week or two and was looking up my personal records so I got a little squirrly and told him my name was my friends name Dewayne who was also mr.biceps on a few boards.:bulb: TOM "HOUNDED"
me relentlessly about my true identity and thats just plain RUDE after all the help I have given to him free of charge behnd the scenes!!! Not to mention the fact I was told by some of the DCers that TOM was possibly working as an undercover agent due to all of his flip-flopping back and forth. Very unstable man at times..:suicide:

I have no quarrel with funk and cow pimp other than the way they have shown dis-repsect towards me. Usually this thing occurs out of envy but I was partly responsible because when I first showed up I didnt include them when I mentioned personal trainers on this baord because I thought GO-PRO was the only other trainer. So they felt dis-repsected and we got off to a bad start. Not to mention i arrived with drama following and was getting a litle unstable myself...lol I apologized behind the scenes to Funk and COW butwas unforgiven. :( Both mods know a geat deal about training and I think they are an asset to the bodybuilding community when they display the proper attitude.



I encourage everyone to LET IT GO!! Theres a lesson to be learned here. I know I sure did..
I am so confused about this whole thing. My gut instinct is you're full of shit. Especially when I see things like this comment "...so I got a little squirrly and told him my name was my friends name Dewayne who was also mr.biceps on a few boards".

So in essence, you gave the name of your 'friend', a known steroid user, to a guy you thought may have been an undercover cop? :hmmm: .
 
IRON MAN said:
Not at all..You and Funk gained up on me and many have complained about it to me in PM'S including TOM. Many times I would ansewer a question in the opn training forum and you flamed me without reason or justification. You guys hold grudges!:(

Listen CP everyone has differnt training techniques and theories. Just because your religious beliefs about GOD may differ a bit from mine doesn't mean either of us are wrong!Its that simple!;)

You even PMed me one time because you thought I was flaming you or whatever, and I responded with an apology. I said that I wasn't flaming you, and if I made it sound like I was then I was sorry.

There was a turning point. That's when you flipped out on me and made up outlandish bullshit to support your theory, which I didn't even disagree with you on.

Also, now you're talking about letting it go, but you come back in here preaching your bullshit again. You should let it go. You knew all too well that your ranting was going to draw responses and that's why you made that post; don't bullshit the people on this board.
 
By the way, this is a PM I sent to IRON MAN. If you think this was being unforgiving, then let me know.

I don't really have a problem with you or anything, but I disagree with you about certain aspects of training. I think I did so respectfully though. If I came off like an ass I apologize, but that wasn't my intention.

Peace and love.
 
CowPimp said:
By the way, this is a PM I sent to IRON MAN. If you think this was being unforgiving, then let me know.
Seems like you intended (and succeeded) to come off like an ass. And you didn't even apologize... Prick...
 
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