Why the middle class is shrinking!!!

[vancouver]

The 50 year old guy who's digging trenches around my house to fix a drain tile issue shows up at 9am today. We get into small chat and he says he's dead tired. I say jokingly, "you should skip the late night movies". He says, "no it was Call of Duty, I'm addicted". I tell him I haven't played a video game since the first need for speed was lauched and my family found me 3 days later (during Christmas) a sleep on the lazy boy, beard and the video game screen showing I had completed all the levels . I tell him that I'm often up late too. He says, "doing what?". Reading Bloomberg and following the Asian and European markets I reply. He goes, Oh . We didn't have much to talk about after that...

 

[justhav2p]

by Asian and European markets,... You mean the slave trade right?

What does an Asian 12yr boy virgin go for nowadays?

 

[Gissurjon]

yea, because 20 years ago every middle class person followed the stock market...

 

[hoyle21]

Not really sure what you're getting at there. I don't believe middle class folks have ever spent much time and energy on international markets or the WSJ.

There was a time though, when a man could earn a pretty fair living just by being willing to bust his ass and work hard. Those days are long gone for sure.

 

[Aries1]

Not really sure what you're getting at there. I don't believe middle class folks have ever spent much time and energy on international markets or the WSJ.

There was a time though, when a man could earn a pretty fair living just by being willing to bust his ass and work hard. Those days are long gone for sure.

Could you please shut the fuck up?

 

[Madmann]

The 50 year old guy who's digging trenches around my house to fix a drain tile issue shows up at 9am today. We get into small chat and he says he's dead tired. I say jokingly, "you should skip the late night movies". He says, "no it was Call of Duty, I'm addicted". I tell him I haven't played a video game since the first need for speed was lauched and my family found me 3 days later (during Christmas) a sleep on the lazy boy, beard and the video game screen showing I had completed all the levels . I tell him that I'm often up late too. He says, "doing what?". Reading Bloomberg and following the Asian and European markets I reply. He goes, Oh . We didn't have much to talk about after that...

Too bad the 50 year ditch digger decided to chat with such an idiot.

Wasted valuable time and energy that he will never get back. Sad.

 

[vancouver]

yea, because 20 years ago every middle class person followed the stock market...

It was not my point. He plays video games in his spare time, I do something useful, whether it's reading WSJ or taking a computer programing class...

losing your social status in America (North America) is a choice.

I read today that 54% of the population 16-29 years old is unemployed...I wonder what percentage of these people play video games as opposed to self improvement??

 

[vancouver]

Too bad the 50 year ditch digger decided to chat with such an idiot.

Wasted valuable time and energy that he will never get back. Sad.

Aren't you the resident idiot...

 

[Madmann]

It was not my point. He plays video games in his spare time, I do something useful, whether it's reading WSJ or taking a computer programing class...

losing your social status in America (North America) is a choice.

I read today that 54% of the population 16-29 years old is unemployed...I wonder what percentage of these people play video games as opposed to self improvement??

And just what the hell are you doing for a job that's so great?

Aren't you the resident idiot...

NOPE.

Only true idiots use that lame retort as a defense.

 

[Gissurjon]

Not really sure what you're getting at there. I don't believe middle class folks have ever spent much time and energy on international markets or the WSJ.

There was a time though, when a man could earn a pretty fair living just by being willing to bust his ass and work hard. Those days are long gone for sure.

Yes

 

[Dark Geared God]

 

[vancouver]

And just what the hell are you doing for a job that's so great?

I take money from the poor and give it to the rich, at least that's the way LAM characterizes it...

 

[OfficerFarva]

I play video games so does that make me stupid, lazy, and a member of the poor?

You're pretty damn full of your self Vancouver but really you aren't more special than that guy digging your ditch.

 

[Rednack]

I play video games so does that make me stupid, lazy, and a member of the poor?

You're pretty damn full of your self Vancouver but really you aren't more special than that guy digging your ditch.

so why are you finger deep in his ditch, picking dingle berries?

 

[vancouver]

A clarification for those who chose to read this thread as being about having to read the WSJ or Bloomberg 24/7 to get ahead, it's not. It's about wasting your life playing video games and then bitching about how the middle class is shrinking. You could replace video games with watching every broadcast NFL game, it's the same thing. There is a lot that people can do to improve their life...

50 years ago, (as some are referring to), you watched the game 1X per week and it was a family affair. People had time to bust their ass...(or the inclination)

 

[vancouver]

I play video games so does that make me stupid, lazy, and a member of the poor?

You're pretty damn full of your self Vancouver but really you aren't more special than that guy digging your ditch.

Were you up until 2am playing, with a schedule to be at the worksite by 8am, showing up at 9 to complain about being tired??

I read another post of yours whereby you felt you could finally afford that expensive truck now because your insurance rates at 25 would be cheaper. You have one foot in the ditch already...imagine if you took the initiative to upgrade your skills instead of play video games, that truck becomes even more affordable. Perhaps you don't play much at all, in that case...what's your point??

Of course I never once suggested people who play video games are stupid and lazy, you chose to read it that way. Further, a psychologist would read your last statement and come to the conclusion pretty fast that your have an inferiority complex. Why would you care how I may or may not feel about yourself? What does it have to do with your ultimate potential?

 

[Madmann]

This thread was a waste.

 

[vancouver]

This thread was a waste.

As are 99% of the posts bitching about the shrinking middle class, politics and religion.

Oh and especially for those who have little interest in this thread, which apparently is not you...

Aren't you late for your babysitting gig??

 

[Rednack]

This thread was a waste.

same thing your mamma told your daddy when you were born.

 

[OfficerFarva]

Were you up until 2am playing, with a schedule to be at the worksite by 8am, showing up at 9 to complain about being tired??

I read another post of yours whereby you felt you could finally afford that expensive truck now because your insurance rates at 25 would be cheaper. You have one foot in the ditch already...imagine if you took the initiative to upgrade your skills instead of play video games, that truck becomes even more affordable. Perhaps you don't play much at all, in that case...what's your point??

Of course I never once suggested people who play video games are stupid and lazy, you chose to read it that way. Further, a psychologist would read your last statement and come to the conclusion pretty fast that your have an inferiority complex. Why would you care how I may or may not feel about yourself? What does it have to do with your ultimate potential?

Obviously you're trying to blast the current crop of middle class as being lazy and stupid which is why they're "shrinking". If not than wtf was the point of this thread?

Yah you read about that truck I'm getting. You must have skipped the parts where I mentioned I put myself through trade school, university, and tech school. That truck is still worth the same as it was before I got all edumacated.

You'll probably start blaming marijuana and other drugs next because it's well known that middle class people like to get fucked up every now and than.

Get off your rocker, you're no body special.

 

[vancouver]

Obviously you're trying to blast the current crop of middle class as being lazy and stupid which is why they're "shrinking". If not than wtf was the point of this thread?

Yah you read about that truck I'm getting. You must have skipped the parts where I mentioned I put myself through trade school, university, and tech school. That truck is still worth the same as it was before I got all edumacated.

You'll probably start blaming marijuana and other drugs next because it's well known that middle class people like to get fucked up every now and than.

Get off your rocker, you're no body special.

You have issues man, see a psychologist...seriously.

You chose to read my post a certain way. Others (with more life experience) will read it for what it said. The dude is addicted to Call of Duty, he digs ditches at age 50 and we had very little to chat about after he found out my vice was informing myself in my spare time.

I still offered the guy a coffee and attempted to small chat with him. Others in my neighborhood would not have even said hello to him. I did not hire this guy, I have a MP managing the project for me...

Do yourself a favour and change your perspective about what you think people mean by what they say. You know people who fly off the handle when somone says something that is percieved as negative or bashing. You also know people who stop and take the time to read between the lines. Now ask yourself, what social class do these people usually find themselves in.

BTW, until I was in my early 30's, I had a lot of preconceived notions, young, dumb and full of cum is the best way I've heard in described. So you know that we have similar backgrounds. when I was 23, I framed houses from 8am to 4pm, then went to my second job and studies from 4:30 to 7pm which is when my shift started. I finished my second job at 3am and slept on the contractor's couch until he woke me up for work the next day. I did this for a year straight and slept mostly on the weekends until I passed my exams, the rest is history. Oh I lived like a piece of shit until my business took off 5 years later. None of this was special, there are people doing this all over America, but with the extra burden of children and perhaps a lost spouse. There are troops serving overseas who risk their lives and study in their spare time, they are special. Then their are people who play video games all night and show up late the next day with a cig hanging out of their mouth bitching about how tired they are...they are special too...

 

[OfficerFarva]

You have issues man, see a psychologist...seriously.

You chose to read my post a certain way. Others (with more life experience) will read it for what it said. The dude is addicted to Call of Duty, he digs ditches at age 50 and we had very little to chat about after he found out my vice was informing myself in my spare time.

I still offered the guy a coffee and attempted to small chat with him. Others in my neighborhood would not have even said hello to him. I did not hire this guy, I have a MP managing the project for me...

Do yourself a favour and change your perspective about what you think people mean by what they say. You know people who fly off the handle when somone says something that is percieved as negative or bashing. You also know people who stop and take the time to read between the lines. Now ask yourself, what social class do these people usually find themselves in.

BTW, until I was in my early 30's, I had a lot of preconceived notions, young, dumb and full of cum is the best way I've heard in described. So you know that we have similar backgrounds. when I was 23, I framed houses from 8am to 4pm, then went to my second job and studies from 4:30 to 7pm which is when my shift started. I finished my second job at 3am and slept on the contractor's couch until he woke me up for work the next day. I did this for a year straight and slept mostly on the weekends until I passed my exams, the rest is history. Oh I lived like a piece of shit until my business took off 5 years later. None of this was special, there are people doing this all over America, but with the extra burden of children and perhaps a lost spouse. There are troops serving overseas who risk their lives and study in their spare time, they are special. Then their are people who play video games all night and show up late the next day with a cig hanging out of their mouth bitching about how tired they are...they are special too...

There's no doubt I've got some deep routed issues, who doesn't though

I don't think any one here will argue that hard work and personal sacrifice are part of the key ingredients to getting ahead financially.

I know a lot of people that work hard and don't waste time yet they're still struggling financially. There's more and better reasons for why the middle class is shrinking than just "they're lazy".

 

[Gissurjon]

It was not my point. He plays video games in his spare time, I do something useful, whether it's reading WSJ or taking a computer programing class...

losing your social status in America (North America) is a choice.

I read today that 54% of the population 16-29 years old is unemployed...I wonder what percentage of these people play video games as opposed to self improvement??

I wouldn't know, never been a gamer or owned a game...

 

[vancouver]

There's no doubt I've got some deep routed issues, who doesn't though

I don't think any one here will argue that hard work and personal sacrifice are part of the key ingredients to getting ahead financially.

I know a lot of people that work hard and don't waste time yet they're still struggling financially. There's more and better reasons for why the middle class is shrinking than just "they're lazy".

You are absolutely correct!!! But more times than not, where you are in life, is a reflection of all the informal education you pick up and how you think. Those who automatically assumed I was putting down the middle class feel this way because it's how their thinking was shaped through their environment growing up (or they are young and impressionable). People will take offense to what I just said, but no one who really understands what I mean will, because their informal education will cause them to think in a possitive way, allowing them to read between the lines...

Most successful people look for the positive in everyting they read and see. The opposite is true for those who repel success (success does not necessarily mean a lot of money). Of course the rule applies 99% of the time, there are exceptions...

Oh and I did not answer your previous question about pot smokers. There are very successful pot smokers and very unsuccessful pot smokers, just like there are guys who can't gain a pound on AAS...

 

[Dark Geared God]

I wouldn't know, never been a gamer or owned a game...

Most of the poor don't

 

[Big Pimpin]

If you're into day trading there's great reason to follow the Asian markets because more than 60% of the time what the Asian markets do, the US markets follow the next day. Me and a buddy played this game with our retirement accounts soon after we got out college and it was very successful. The problem is most 401ks won't let you shift the money around (between funds and money market) on a daily basis. They may have even made this illegal at this point. We were doing this in the 90's.

 

[Zaphod]

Not really sure what you're getting at there. I don't believe middle class folks have ever spent much time and energy on international markets or the WSJ.

There was a time though, when a man could earn a pretty fair living just by being willing to bust his ass and work hard. Those days are long gone for sure.

They're only temporarily gone. They man who can make a living with his hands will have the last laugh.

 

[Zaphod]

As are 99% of the posts bitching about the shrinking middle class, politics and religion.

Oh and especially for those who have little interest in this thread, which apparently is not you...

Aren't you late for your babysitting gig??

He's late for his ass pounding from his boyfriend.

 

[Madmann]

As are 99% of the posts bitching about the shrinking middle class, politics and religion.

Oh and especially for those who have little interest in this thread, which apparently is not you...

Aren't you late for your babysitting gig??

Still never told me the technical name of your lame ass job?

same thing your mamma told your daddy when you were born.

Why the fuck would my mom know anything about this thread??
Which would not have been around at the time anyhow, dummy.

You're about as bright as a fucking light pen.

And if my mom wanted to sale me at least she'd get lots of money unlike when
the desperate farmer actually tried getting rid of you at the local barnyard auction.

You're bascially radioactive, no sane human wants to be near you.

 

[vancouver]

If you're into day trading there's great reason to follow the Asian markets because more than 60% of the time what the Asian markets do, the US markets follow the next day. Me and a buddy played this game with our retirement accounts soon after we got out college and it was very successful. The problem is most 401ks won't let you shift the money around (between funds and money market) on a daily basis. They may have even made this illegal at this point. We were doing this in the 90's.

I'm pretty sure you can trade ETF's in your 401K with no problem...