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Why the Rich Don't Give to Charity

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"In 2011, the wealthiest Americans?those with earnings in the top 20 percent?contributed on average 1.3 percent of their income to charity. By comparison, Americans at the base of the income pyramid?those in the bottom 20 percent?donated 3.2 percent of their income."

"Piff later told New York magazine, the rich are way more likely to prioritize their own self-interests above the interests of other people. They are, he continued, more likely to exhibit characteristics that we would stereotypically associate with, say, assholes."

Why the Rich Don't Give to Charity - Ken Stern - The Atlantic

The wealthiest Americans donate 1.3 percent of their income; the poorest, 3.2 percent. What's up with that?
Ken Stern Mar 20 2013, 9:50 PM ET

When Mort Zuckerman, the New York City real-estate and media mogul, lavished $200 million on Columbia University in December to endow the Mortimer B. Zuckerman Mind Brain Behavior Institute, he did so with fanfare suitable to the occasion: the press conference was attended by two Nobel laureates, the president of the university, the mayor, and journalists from some of New York?s major media outlets. Many of the 12 other individual charitable gifts that topped $100 million in the U.S. last year were showered with similar attention: $150 million from Carl Icahn to the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, $125 million from Phil Knight to the Oregon Health & Science University, and $300 million from Paul Allen to the Allen Institute for Brain Science in Seattle, among them. If you scanned the press releases, or drove past the many university buildings, symphony halls, institutes, and stadiums named for their benefactors, or for that matter read the histories of grand giving by the Rockefellers, Carnegies, Stanfords, and Dukes, you would be forgiven for thinking that the story of charity in this country is a story of epic generosity on the part of the American rich.


It is not. One of the most surprising, and perhaps confounding, facts of charity in America is that the people who can least afford to give are the ones who donate the greatest percentage of their income. In 2011, the wealthiest Americans?those with earnings in the top 20 percent contributed on average 1.3 percent of their income to charity. By comparison, Americans at the base of the income pyramid?those in the bottom 20 percent donated 3.2 percent of their income. The relative generosity of lower-income Americans is accentuated by the fact that, unlike middle-class and wealthy donors, most of them cannot take advantage of the charitable tax deduction, because they do not itemize deductions on their income-tax returns.


But why? Lower-income Americans are presumably no more intrinsically generous (or prosocial, as the sociologists say) than anyone else. However, some experts have speculated that the wealthy may be less generous that the personal drive to accumulate wealth may be inconsistent with the idea of communal support. Last year, Paul Piff, a psychologist at UC Berkeley, published research that correlated wealth with an increase in unethical behavior: While having money doesn't necessarily make anybody anything, Piff later told New York magazine, the rich are way more likely to prioritize their own self-interests above the interests of other people. They are, he continued, more likely to exhibit characteristics that we would stereotypically associate with, say, assholes. Colorful statements aside, Piff's research on the giving habits of different social classes while not directly refuting the asshole theory suggests that other, more complex factors are at work. In a series of controlled experiments, lower-income people and people who identified themselves as being on a relatively low social rung were consistently more generous with limited goods than upper-class participants were. Notably, though, when both groups were exposed to a sympathy-eliciting video on child poverty, the compassion of the wealthier group began to rise, and the groups? willingness to help others became almost identical.
 
it amuses me to see friends that went from the wage worker to the VP at an investment firm and how their real personalities have come through once they have a little bit of money. and people wonder why I never go back home to the north east.
 
I would gladly donate if I wasn't saving for a house down payment. Also, many charities are not all they are cracked up to be and very little in some cases goes to the people or research they are trying to help fund.
 
I would gladly donate if I wasn't saving for a house down payment. Also, many charities are not all they are cracked up to be and very little in some cases goes to the people or research they are trying to help fund.

there are a lot of good charities out there, my sisters firm directly serves those types of organizations and how they can better allocate their resources.
 
How much or what percentage of your income per year do you donate to charity LAM?
 
How much or what percentage of your income per year do you donate to charity LAM?

I used to give about 10-15% and try to do a good 15-20 hrs a month with Habitat for Humanity but here in Florida at least where I'm at they don't do much construction around here it's more like donations of clothes, furniture, etc., salvation army type stuff. I'm doing some volunteer for for FEMA right now but I have an ulterior motive for that.

this year I haven't really worked only done a couple of big projects or so for walmart in central FL as there is just no demand for IT anywhere but southern Florida as that's where the wealth of the state is concentrated.
 
I would gladly donate if I wasn't saving for a house down payment. Also, many charities are not all they are cracked up to be and very little in some cases goes to the people or research they are trying to help fund.

^^^ this. A lot of charities are full of shit, donations go more on 'admin fees' than where it's needed. In addition, money destined for 'starving children' overseas etc just gets siphoned off by corrupt officials.

Also NEVER donate to a religious-backed organisation - those fuckers use it as leverage for their own recruitment drive. On my travels Ive heard of unscrupulous penticostal groups only helping families in latin america if they converted.

If you really give a fuck and want to help, donate your time - far more effective than sending a few bucks to ease your guilts. Shit, even volunteering at your kids school counts in my book.
 
If you really give a fuck and want to help, donate your time - far more effective than sending a few bucks to ease your guilts. Shit, even volunteering at your kids school counts in my book.

that's what I mainly try to do. for years friends have been trying to get me to open up some kind of technical school but I just don't want the stress involved with being in charge of other peoples livelihoods that comes along with that sort of commitment.

I can see myself working for an NGO or doing the expat thing in a couple of years.
 
Before dumping money into any charity you should check them out. Ask for an annual statement (public information) and a prospectus and look at what their administrative costs and overhead are. It will shock you how little money makes it to people. Recently we had those 19 smoke jumpers killed in the Yanell fire. All sorts of charities popped up. It was estimated by the AZ Attorney General's office that almost 9 million was raised world wide for the families. I have been keeping an eye on this. So far I have not heard of one friggin' dime getting to the survivors. The only one that has kept its work is a trust setup setup by a bank for the kids to go to college.

Say what you will about Bill O'Reilly. But he really bird dogged the "charities' for the survivors of 911. It was shameful how little money actually made it to the families. Even the Red Cross took a pile of heat from O'Reillly for buying a new phone system with the money that was supposed to go to the families.
 
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