Jesus would have been a Buddhist in this day and age. And most of the people who say they worship him today would call him a damn dirty hippy if they saw him.
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JordanMang said:People care more about other people hearing their own opinion then anything. Half of the people who don't support Bush, The War, the State of the Union, do so only because they want to fit in. Stop being so fake and find some kind of REAL values to lean on, because the one's you have now don't equate to maturity irregardlesslaugh
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aceshigh said:Al - Qaeda said nothing but good things about you man!!!!!!!
You've missed the entire point.
Al-Qaeda is an organization, not a nation-state.
Therefore, go after the organization, and destroy it.
Bush quit doing this when he diverted the resources, troops, and equipment, to Iraq from Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Bush quit the War on Terror about 7 months after 9/11.
The best thing that has happened to Al-Qaeda is Bush invading Iraq.
Osama has even publicly said it.
MWpro said:
Yeah I'll give you a "REAL" reason I don't support the war, since is apparently hasn't hit home for you: 19 year old marine Andy Patton being killed by a roadside bomb in Fallujah in December, a kid I went to church with for years, a caring person who would've given you the shirt off his back. And for what? Can you tell me what we've accomplished in this "war"? Can you tell me one way at all the United States has benefited? Are we really any safer? Were we really ever in danger from Saddam Hussein in the first place? As far as your comment about people just wanting to fit in, I felt the exact same way about this war 3 years ago when I was younger and still more politically well-versed than your dumb ass, when it wasn't popular to feel that way, before we went in.......and here's the IM thread to prove it: http://ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=16010JordanMang said:
And president Bush has broken all kinds of laws, not that every other president didn't as well, but his wiretapping scam is under constitutional review right now. And supporting him is no way to gain popularity on a bodybuilding forum, since private use of steroids is now the priority of the "war on drugs" Quit holding your ex-cokehead, morally void, disgruntled unsuccesful ex-baseball owner of a president up on a moral pedistal, because he's made as much if not more mistakes than anyone here. And it's our right as American citizens to not just "stop and deal with it," so shut the fuck up. We, unlike Bush, can recognize when we've made a mistake and attempt to cut our losses, although you can bet your bottom dollar he didn't get my states' electoral votes in 2000 or 2004. So maybe you should stop making up words like "irregardless" and stick to the training section. Rookie.
RCfootball87 said:
Here is the reason why:
Originally Posted by Jarhed
Cindy Sheehan asked President Bush, "Why did my son have to die in Iraq?"
Another mother asked President Kennedy, "Why did my son have to die in Vietnam?"
Another mother asked President Truman, "Why did my son have to die in Korea?
Another mother asked President F.D. Roosevelt, "Why did my son have to die at Iwo Jima?"
Another mother asked President W. Wilson, "Why did my son have to die on the battlefield of France?"
Yet another mother asked President Lincoln, "Why did my son have to die at Gettysburg?"
And yet another mother asked President G. Washington, "Why did my son have to die near Valley Forge?"
Then long, long ago, a mother asked, "Heavenly Father, why did my Son have to die on a cross outside of Jerusalem?"
The answers to all these are similar ???
"that the rich people may get richer, and the poor, poorer. that the worlds only superpower will liberate these countries by installing a dictator that can take orders from washington. that these nations may have vast amounts resources we need to control. that George Bush and all his friends stocks can rise 0.5%."
RCfootball87 said:
What does this have to do with anything? I'd respect a guy more for posting what he believes over whats popular. "Rookies" care about whats popular, not "well-versed" men.
The republican party in Illinois is in shambles, so Bush's failure to get our electoral votes was expected and proves nothing. It's a strong blue state... city, actually. Chicago dictates Illinois' electoral votes.
I'm not particularly popular on this board and don't particularly care. I've never expressed opinions in order to be popular, I've expressed them because they're my opinions and this is Open Chat. I've always felt this way about our involvement in Iraq, check the thread I posted. I got attacked to no end for feeling that way 3 years ago, yet none of those people can stand by their statements now. I just thought I'd remind him. My city's metropolation area is like 250,000 or something counting county and burbs, and trust me, he didn't get a very big turnout here either. Just because the rural parts of Illinois may vote republican doesn't make up for the rest of us with enough sense not to. Personally, I could say fuck either party and vote independent or maybe libertarian.busyLivin said:
yeah, you fired 'em up Jarhed
Yeah Jarhead, you sure got dem libs. I think we should nuke the middle east, and then bomb hillary! 
This photo looks like a line of Marines getting blown by their buddies while they hold the back of their helmeted heads.
maniclion said:
This photo looks like a line of Marines getting blown by their buddies while they hold the back of their helmeted heads.
maniclion said:
This photo looks like a line of Marines getting blown by their buddies while they hold the back of their helmeted heads.
Jarhed:
Why did all these people die?
Because the U.S. likes bombing the sh*t out of countries and killing people.
Azzholes like you that are in Iraq.
Whenever a U.S. helicopter goes down, I celebrate.
Same with road-side bombs and snipers.
Why did all these people die?
Because the U.S. likes bombing the sh*t out of countries and killing people.
Azzholes like you that are in Iraq.
Whenever a U.S. helicopter goes down, I celebrate.
Same with road-side bombs and snipers.
Mr_Snafu said:
Hey man it's one thing to be against the war, but it's another thing to hate the troops and America so much that you say stuff like this. Fuck you man; if you hate it so much, leave the country you hypocritical piece of trash.
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Mr_Snafu said:
Tha is a pretty shitty thing to say man, You don't have to support the war, but don't diss on the troops. Some of them are probably against the war and don't want to be there, but they are there b/c that is what they were ordered to do and it is part of the job they signed on to do.
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min0 lee said:
I am willing to put money down that the answer is no.
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RCfootball87 said:
I got chewed out by my boss for saying I didn't suppod the war effort back in 2003. Most of the guys working at the job lost all respect for me over my opinion. I caught hell over that shit for 3 months, until the college fall semester started back, and I went back to school. Most of the guys I was working with were southern "good ole boys", so I should have known not to try and convey a belief that wasn't forced into my head through brainwashing. Oh, what I would give to run into one of those god damn fuckheads now!
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section8 said:
Do it because they were ordered? Come on dude, I don't think you really believe that. What kind of fucking pussy does something that is against their principles for the sake of orders?
Would you kill a kid if you were ordered to?
Would you kill an innocent mother if you were ordered to?
Would you carpet bomb half of a city if you were ordered to?
If anyone answered yes to any of those, I hope they are ass raped with a steel spiked dildo for all of eternity!
Mr_Snafu said:
Eat shit Snafu
KelJu said:
one of the most ignorant comments I've read yet... look man, be against the war all you want, that's one of the many beauties of this country, but stop being such a whiny bitch about it. Your boss yelled at you and everyone lost respect for you, you wanna see those guys now... whatever, we get the point, you're not going to change anyone's opinion...
MWpro said:
Look:
You and others support killing Iraqis.
So, you are one and the same as me.
I am just rooting for the Sunnis and the right to self-determination.
maniclion said:
This photo looks like a line of Marines getting blown by their buddies while they hold the back of their helmeted heads.
I have to admit, that was funny. I guess it takes a vivid imagination to come up with that. It's nice to know that you have the freedom to express your views and say what's on your mind without the fear of reprisal. Only in America!!!
MWpro said:
I am not in Iraq.
That'll be kind of hard, don't ya think.
