Willing to try anything once....wtf

[katt]

Carb day hell yeah! Are you carbing up with me katt? We could be like carb buddies!

Sure..... I'm in!

 

[Brutus_G]

Sure..... I'm in!

Ok ive already eaten half a sugar free pumpkin pie so you gotta play catch up lol. Damn i wish we could go to subway together!

 

[Scarface30]

very nice workout katt

pullups are looking stronger all the time!

 

[katt]

Ok ive already eaten half a sugar free pumpkin pie so you gotta play catch up lol. Damn i wish we could go to subway together!

The other half is for me????

Hmmm... Subway...

I never really miss bread..... until I eat it...

 

[Brutus_G]

The other half is for me????

Hmmm... Subway...

I never really miss bread..... until I eat it...

The other half is gone

 

[vortrit]

I looked at some of your workouts yesterday. I couldn't believe your incline strength. It's probably better than mine.

 

[katt]

The other half is gone

DAMN IT!!!!

Maybe I'll just have to make one...

 

[katt]

I looked at some of your workouts yesterday. I couldn't believe your incline strength. It's probably better than mine.

Thanks Vortrit!
I'm really trying concentrate on doing incline movements first... I want to get more mass in the upper portion of my chest..

 

[JerseyDevil]

Thanks Vortrit!
I'm really trying concentrate on doing incline movements first... I want to get more mass in the upper portion of my chest..

Let's hope GoPro and Saturday Fever don't see this.... we will have another ad nauseum debate for a few months. Hahahaha. Actually I miss those debates .

So you know what I am talking about.... some contend that because the pectorals only have one insertion point to the delt/bicep tie-in, it is impossible to isolate the upper, middle, or lower chest. Others claim it is entirely possible. My opinion on the matter? Who the hell cares, just workout! I do think a lot of incline work develops the front delt/pec tie-in, which helps give the illusion of a bigger upper chest.

 

[vortrit]

Thanks Vortrit!
I'm really trying concentrate on doing incline movements first... I want to get more mass in the upper portion of my chest..

That's actually good thinking. I should concentrate on more incline work.

 

[Pylon]

So you know what I am talking about.... some contend that because the pectorals only have one insertion point to the delt/bicep tie-in, it is impossible to isolate the upper, middle, or lower chest. Others claim it is entirely possible. My opinion on the matter? Who the hell cares, just workout! I do think a lot of incline work develops the front delt/pec tie-in, which helps give the illusion of a bigger upper chest.

Hey, the lady is trying to increase her pectoral mass. DO NOT SCREW THIS UP FOR THE REST OF US!!!!

 

[katt]

Let's hope GoPro and Saturday Fever don't see this.... we will have another ad nauseum debate for a few months. Hahahaha. Actually I miss those debates .

So you know what I am talking about.... some contend that because the pectorals only have one insertion point to the delt/bicep tie-in, it is impossible to isolate the upper, middle, or lower chest. Others claim it is entirely possible. My opinion on the matter? Who the hell cares, just workout! I do think a lot of incline work develops the front delt/pec tie-in, which helps give the illusion of a bigger upper chest.

I guess I must have missed that debate... I'm one of the ones that feels that your maybe can't totally isolate a certain part, but you can surely put more emphasis on in with certain exercises.

 

[katt]

This mornings wo

Standing Military Press
(45-bar only) 1x8
(65) 1x8
(75) 1x7
(85) 1x5

Dumbell Raise - I saw this one on the internet this morning, you hold the db's at your side and raise up to your armpits
(25's) 1x8
(30) 1x8
(32.5) 1x6

Rear Delt db Row
(15's) 1x8
(17.5) 1x8
(20) 1x10

Cable Front Raise
(15) 1x10
(20) 1x8
(25) 1x8

Hyper extensions
25 lb plate 3x12
ss w/
shrugs
(140) 1x15
(180) 1x10
(220) 1x8

 

[PeteTheGreek]

Standing Military Press
(45-bar only) 1x8
(65) 1x8
(75) 1x7
(85) 1x5

Fuckin' eh, that's pretty good. Sean, can you do that much?

 

[Brutus_G]

Fuckin' eh, that's pretty good. Sean, can you do that much?

You love him like a son dont you?

 

[katt]

This morning was cardio & abs

45 minutes on the treadmill - 35 minutes at 5.0-6.0 incline at 3.3 - 3.6 speed
then I cranked it to level 12 for 4 minutes and put the speed at 3
last 5 minutes at 5.5 level 3.4 speed

abs
hanging leg raises
side raises
planks
reverse sit ups

That's it -

 

[Brutus_G]

Burn that fat Katt! Have you ever tried ECA that stuff is just amazing!

 

[Musclebeach]

You are simply hitting the muscle (in this case the chest) from several different angles; decline, flat, or incline. While the chest does only have one insertion point, it is not made up of one single muscle fiber. It is made up of millions. When you do incline bench you are putting more strain on the upper fibers, when you do decline more strain on the lower fibers.

In general I would say most people get enough upper chest fiber recruitment when doing delt presses. Especially once the back starts arching the the chest becomes more involved.

Just my humble opinion on the matter. Sorry to hijack.

 

[SamEaston]

Hey Katt, super workouts - and good going on that cardio! Its hell when you're eating below maintenance!

i agree with MB, a general guide for working out maximum heartrate is 220- age, although the most reliable way to find out your heartrate as you workout is a heartrate monitor, or to keep taking it manually (a pain in the ass!).

An easy way to work out which theshold you should be working at is to take your max heartrate (220 - age) and workout your percentages from there. Our coach makes us train at specific thresholds, which are:

Upper Threshold 2 (UT2) - 60-70% of max
Upper Threshold 1 (UT1) - 70-80% of max
Anaerobic Threshold (AT) - 80-90% of max
Anaerobic (AN) - 90-95% of max
Max - 100%

So if your max heart rate was 180bpm, then your threshold heart rates would be as follows:
UT2 : 122-134bpm
UT1 : 135-147bpm
AT : 148-160bpm
AN : 161-167bpm
Max: 168 and above

I suspect what the guy at the gym was recommending was training in the UT2 threshold, which is thought to burn fat and not muscle. I don't agree with this train of thought though. I think,
1. as long as you have enough protein, your muscle gains should be safe
2. for health reasons it is a good idea to train at different thresholds, give your body a challenge
3. the effect of high impact training (AT, AN and max) raises your heart rate close to its maximum. This in turn revs up your metabolism for the rest of the day, which is what you want when you're burning fat.

Just my thoughts, but then, im a cardio junkie!!

Shit, this is a long reply - sorry

 

[Burner02]

hiya Katt!

 

[katt]

Hey!! Welcome Back Burner!!

 

[katt]

Hey Katt, super workouts - and good going on that cardio! Its hell when you're eating below maintenance!

i agree with MB, a general guide for working out maximum heartrate is 220- age, although the most reliable way to find out your heartrate as you workout is a heartrate monitor, or to keep taking it manually (a pain in the ass!).

An easy way to work out which theshold you should be working at is to take your max heartrate (220 - age) and workout your percentages from there. Our coach makes us train at specific thresholds, which are:

Upper Threshold 2 (UT2) - 60-70% of max
Upper Threshold 1 (UT1) - 70-80% of max
Anaerobic Threshold (AT) - 80-90% of max
Anaerobic (AN) - 90-95% of max
Max - 100%

So if your max heart rate was 180bpm, then your threshold heart rates would be as follows:
UT2 : 122-134bpm
UT1 : 135-147bpm
AT : 148-160bpm
AN : 161-167bpm
Max: 168 and above

I suspect what the guy at the gym was recommending was training in the UT2 threshold, which is thought to burn fat and not muscle. I don't agree with this train of thought though. I think,
1. as long as you have enough protein, your muscle gains should be safe
2. for health reasons it is a good idea to train at different thresholds, give your body a challenge
3. the effect of high impact training (AT, AN and max) raises your heart rate close to its maximum. This in turn revs up your metabolism for the rest of the day, which is what you want when you're burning fat.

Just my thoughts, but then, im a cardio junkie!!

Shit, this is a long reply - sorry

Thanks! Good info there...

I don't know about going so hard (AT, AN and max) though... I would think you would have to sacrifice some muscle at that point... but that's just my opinion, I don't know the statistics behind it.

 

[SamEaston]

I don't think you would lose any more muscle than you would during long sessions.

I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago, not sure where, that if your goal is to burn fat during cardio, to make sure you are not eating a carb dense meal before your workout, as your body will utilise these carbs first for energy. So, i guess you would have to play around with taking in enough carbs pre-cardio to stop you burning muscle for energy, but not too much that fat burning is halted completely.

A very interesting topic, but one im sure that is highly individual too!

 

[katt]

Yeah that makes sense.. I know on my lifting + cardio days, my carbs are up, but not over my protein percentages.. Maybe I'll just play around with it and see how it works.

 

[fufu]

This mornings wo

Standing Military Press
(45-bar only) 1x8
(65) 1x8
(75) 1x7
(85) 1x5

Dumbell Raise - I saw this one on the internet this morning, you hold the db's at your side and raise up to your armpits
(25's) 1x8
(30) 1x8
(32.5) 1x6

Rear Delt db Row
(15's) 1x8
(17.5) 1x8
(20) 1x10

Cable Front Raise
(15) 1x10
(20) 1x8
(25) 1x8

Hyper extensions
25 lb plate 3x12
ss w/
shrugs
(140) 1x15
(180) 1x10
(220) 1x8

nice military presses!

 

[katt]

Thanks fufu ! I was half expecting a drop in strength by now, but I haven't yet..

 

[Scarface30]

This mornings wo

Standing Military Press
(45-bar only) 1x8
(65) 1x8
(75) 1x7
(85) 1x5

Dumbell Raise - I saw this one on the internet this morning, you hold the db's at your side and raise up to your armpits
(25's) 1x8
(30) 1x8
(32.5) 1x6

Rear Delt db Row
(15's) 1x8
(17.5) 1x8
(20) 1x10

Cable Front Raise
(15) 1x10
(20) 1x8
(25) 1x8

Hyper extensions
25 lb plate 3x12
ss w/
shrugs
(140) 1x15
(180) 1x10
(220) 1x8

great workout katt! your military press is awesome!

 

[goob]

great workout katt! your military press is awesome!

Seconded. Most of Katt's lifts follow suit.

 

[katt]

I'm grumpy today - didn't make my food for today, so I'm rushed..

Today's wo

Hammer Strength Incline press
(110) 1x8
(130) 1x6
(140) 1x5

Hammer Strength Flat bench
(110) 1x8
(130) 1x8
(140) 1x5

Cable X-overs - squeeze in middle
(40 ea side) 1x10
(50) 1x10
(60) 1x8

Dips
BW +10
1x8
1x6
1x5 + just bw 1x2

Close Grip Incline Press
(45) 1x10
(65) 1x8
(85) 1x4

out of time. Cals for the day 1694 48% pro. 31% carb, 18% fat I'm off a percent or two but who cares.

 

[Burner02]

hey kitty katt....turn that frown upside down!

I like the dips!