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both are liver toxic so 12 weeks is too much. Tell your buddy that 6 weeks should be the max. Both var and winny are dry so estro conversion will not be an issue. I dont have experience with either compound yet, but i will next spring when i cut. I have heard that winny can be rough on the joints though.
I have a concern though first of all, tell your friend to pick one oral, not two methylated (liver killer) ones, and also, is he planning on running test with it? Oral only cycle = fail.
I have a concern though first of all, tell your friend to pick one oral, not two methylated (liver killer) ones, and also, is he planning on running test with it? Oral only cycle = fail.
Methylated steroids are oral steroids with a methyl group tacked on to survive the first pass through the liver. Do you even know wtf your friend is taking the orals for? Is he trying to cut down or bulk up? If he's using winstrol and anavar as a bulker, he's an idiot. It sounds to me like you guys don't even know what you're doing with the drugs you're just putting into your body. Usually a dose of test whether it be prop, enth, or cyp is a good idea and we have no clue what you're friend could expect because you haven't given us any details past the name of two drugs.
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Lol
He's just looking on making some gains, muscle gains, strength gains ect, Any idea hhow much test p he wound need to be takeing on the cycle, i have been told by gym rats that 1ml eod is about right, any help is good mate, aint to knolagable on the subjet 
Wow... You guys have no clue wtf you're doing yet you guys started cycling? Holy shit, hope you don't grow man titties. For gaining mass, winstrol and anavar are both very poor orals. You're best off using SDMZ, Dbol or Anadrol. Winstrol is a cutting oral that will illicit strength gains in most users. Anavar is a very dose dependent, person dependent oral that can add a little bit of mass, but that's not its main use.
If you're looking to bulk up and gain some quality lean body mass, you're better off taking 1.5ml-2ml of test prop every other day with some anti-estrogen like formeron for 12 weeks instead of using orals. GL keeping your gains after you stop if you don't know wtf PCT is (this is your queue to research PCT in the stickies). You shouldn't use steroids if you don't know how to use them. That's how you fuck up and get bad side effects like messed up livers, gyno (man tits), shutdown HPTA, etc.
He's laughing because you were too stupid to research what you were doing before you started ingesting oral steroids.
If you're looking to bulk up and gain some quality lean body mass, you're better off taking 1.5ml-2ml of test prop every other day with some anti-estrogen like formeron for 12 weeks instead of using orals. GL keeping your gains after you stop if you don't know wtf PCT is (this is your queue to research PCT in the stickies). You shouldn't use steroids if you don't know how to use them. That's how you fuck up and get bad side effects like messed up livers, gyno (man tits), shutdown HPTA, etc.
He's laughing because you were too stupid to research what you were doing before you started ingesting oral steroids.
It's not much better that you're telling your "friend" how to take orals incorrectly. It still leaves everybody on this board thinking you're irresponsible and are messing with drugs you don't understand. Do you understand the drugs you and your friend are using?
The funny thing is, this board, with all of its "fucking ignorant bastards" is still giving you advice, despite the fact that you've demonstrated zero understanding of wtf you or your friend is doing.
The funny thing is, this board, with all of its "fucking ignorant bastards" is still giving you advice, despite the fact that you've demonstrated zero understanding of wtf you or your friend is doing.
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All summed up in LOL :laughing:
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HA! Being insulted by a Brit is fun!
He called someone a bum nugget!!!!
He called someone a bum nugget!!!!