Winter/Spring Bulker

[newguy35]

Ive read mutants protocol quite a few times.

First how long would you say your workouts are? If log has an active life of about 2 hours, and Mike Aronld's protocol is saying to pin 30 min preworkout. It just seems like you would want a bit more of an active life post workout,, but I do get the main theory of not letting your body break down and just building it. Mutants seems better, pinning it about 15 minutes preworkout, the insulin would be kicking in as soon as the workout starts.

Arnold's shakes have a ton of stuff in them, but there pretty low on whey isolate.. you would figure at least like 50g.

About an hour, sometimes a little over on a big back or leg day, usually a little less in general though. I pin all the peptide hormones I'm using (gh,slin,1,3 des, whatever) slam shake 1, and head to the gym, usually about 15-20 minutes away. Start sipping shake 2 after the first 1-2 big compound movement in my routine.

Yeah I have 25gm whey isolate in each shake. People don't think about it much, but protien "uses" up or covers some of that slin to a degree.

You're probably right about wanting some active after, even if your muscles are pretty full up. I think some of the bigger guys will either use both log and R pre to accomplish that, or of course just use more log after. But the biggies are using slin all day long....that's a different ball game.

Pumps on preworkout log are unreal...and I can't imagine what they'd be like with all that EQ and some orals on board.

 

[cottonmouth]

About an hour, sometimes a little over on a big back or leg day, usually a little less in general though. I pin all the peptide hormones I'm using (gh,slin,1,3 des, whatever) slam shake 1, and head to the gym, usually about 15-20 minutes away. Start sipping shake 2 after the first 1-2 big compound movement in my routine.

Yeah I have 25gm whey isolate in each shake. People don't think about it much, but protien "uses" up or covers some of that slin to a degree.

You're probably right about wanting some active after, even if your muscles are pretty full up. I think some of the bigger guys will either use both log and R pre to accomplish that, or of course just use more log after. But the biggies are using slin all day long....that's a different ball game.

Pumps on preworkout log are unreal...and I can't imagine what they'd be like with all that EQ and some orals on board.

Alright, ya mine come to about an hour except for leg and back day too.

So just to get the times right with log
2-2:30 meal
3:45 pin slin / drink shake 1
4:00 start workout
4:30 drink shake 2
5-5:15 workout is done
5:30 drink shake 3
5:45 slin is on its way out
6:30-6:45 meal

Using mike Arnold's shakes,, with about 30g whey isolate per.

Ya I've read that the pumps can make it hard to workout, and make some feel not so hot.

 

[newguy35]

Alright, ya mine come to about an hour except for leg and back day too.

So just to get the times right with log
2-2:30 meal
3:45 pin slin / drink shake 1
4:00 start workout
4:30 drink shake 2
5-5:15 workout is done
5:30 drink shake 3
5:45 slin is on its way out
6:30-6:45 meal

Using mike Arnold's shakes,, with about 30g whey isolate per.

Ya I've read that the pumps can make it hard to workout, and make some feel not so hot.

Looks great man, I think you're going to love it. Nah, I loved the pumps even when they get pretty painful on leg days. Got to love pain a little bit or you're in the wrong game! Having all that liquid in my stomach was the hardest thing, but I think the GH compounded that, I usually don't have that much trouble with drinking that kind of volume.

If you have trouble with the liquid, play around with the carbs, ie maltodextrin vs dextrose vs karbolyn. I found a blend worked best for me, all karbolyn was too heavy

 

[cottonmouth]

I was figuring on starting with a 50/50 mix of dextrose and karbolyn.

Alright, so im going to start running Eq at 600mg/wk on Dec 31st. So my cycle will start fully on 21st of Jan. Starting slin on the 28th.

 

[newguy35]

let us know how it goes, take some progress pics too

 

[cottonmouth]

Alright man, I'm really interested in how the slin will effect me after the first month. It should hopefully be impressive to see the side by side pics.

Now just need to find online pharm that's not sketchy as fuck and doesn't require a script.