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working out on weed.

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kenwood said:
how about lifting and doing crystal meth?
Oh most definately. That would be way better than the weed. Doncha think? Geez why didn't I think of that. :doh:
 
Squaggleboggin said:
It's just that it really isn't always the person that makes the difference. Sometimes they are affected by the same amount of alcohol in a much different way. They should see how it will affect them before continuing to drink, but not everyone has that common sense. With other drugs, this can easily happen and make the person addicted. Not everyone researches what they do. In fact, I'd say it's a very tiny percentage that does.

Many people who appear to be responsible users really are addicted and don't think there's anything wrong with it. I know someone whose parents drink all the time. They're not drunks, but they drink a lot and they're not always in the right state of mind because of it. When I first realized what was happening, it broke my heart to tell you the truth. It's just my experience that use usually turns into abuse. That's why I think avoiding it altogether is best.

I was definitely only talking about certain drugs. I tend not to be specific enough when I say things like this...

You are providing examples of irresponsible drug use. Yes, plenty of people use drugs irresponsibly. However, at the same time, plenty of people drive irresponsibly, use firearms irresponsibly, eat food irresponsibly, etc. You can be irresponsible with any activity you do. Drugs as a whole get bastardized because certain ones are physically addicting. Oddly enough, some of the most physically addicting drugs on the planet are the legal ones in most countries (Nicotine and alcohol). That's because the lawmakers use them too.
 
I know. It's just that most people who use them probably abuse them. Think of how many people actually use recreational drugs responsibly as compared to the number of irresponsible users. I'd bet the irresponsible users is the bigger group. Most people are just fugging stupid.
 
Squaggleboggin said:
I know. It's just that most people who use them probably abuse them. Think of how many people actually use recreational drugs responsibly as compared to the number of irresponsible users. I'd bet the irresponsible users is the bigger group. Most people are just fugging stupid.


A bigger group of people voted for the wrong candidate as president last year (ie., GW Bush), does that mean we should revoke everyone's right to vote?
 
Squaggleboggin said:
I know. It's just that most people who use them probably abuse them. Think of how many people actually use recreational drugs responsibly as compared to the number of irresponsible users. I'd bet the irresponsible users is the bigger group. Most people are just fugging stupid.

Total speculation. The media just likes to perpetuate the myth that the typical drug user a bum getting warm by a trashcan fire or some guy tripping and jumping out of a building. They don't like to show you the businessman who responsibly uses cocaine. They don't like to show you the guy who has a couple of beers now and again. They don't like to show you the straight A students who smoke pot reasonably.

Seeing as how you are obviously not a user in any capacity, you don't see what I do. Yes, there are a Hell of a lot of people who shouldn't be using drugs. At the same time, there are a Hell of a lot of people who do it right. The people who do it right are more low-key about it, and therefore are less prone to the judgemental eyes of their peers.
 
Dale Mabry said:
A bigger group of people voted for the wrong candidate as president last year (ie., GW Bush), does that mean we should revoke everyone's right to vote?

No, we should just shuttle everyone who voted for Bush into outer space. They can start their own fucked up nation on the moon.
 
CowPimp said:
No, we should just shuttle everyone who voted for Bush into outer space. They can start their own fucked up nation on the moon.
:clapping:
 
CowPimp said:
No, we should just shuttle everyone who voted for Bush into outer space. They can start their own fucked up nation on the moon.


Actually, you forgot about Poland. :)
 
CowPimp said:
Total speculation. The media just likes to perpetuate the myth that the typical drug user a bum getting warm by a trashcan fire or some guy tripping and jumping out of a building. They don't like to show you the businessman who responsibly uses cocaine. They don't like to show you the guy who has a couple of beers now and again. They don't like to show you the straight A students who smoke pot reasonably.

Seeing as how you are obviously not a user in any capacity, you don't see what I do. Yes, there are a Hell of a lot of people who shouldn't be using drugs. At the same time, there are a Hell of a lot of people who do it right. The people who do it right are more low-key about it, and therefore are less prone to the judgemental eyes of their peers.

Exactly, I agree 100%
 
Squaggleboggin said:
I know. It's just that most people who use them probably abuse them. Think of how many people actually use recreational drugs responsibly as compared to the number of irresponsible users. I'd bet the irresponsible users is the bigger group. Most people are just fugging stupid.

Actually, you are wrong. I've done a lot of research on this subject, and wrote a few papers on it. Take cocaine for example... yes, a very addictive drug. But only about 3% of people who use cocaine use it on a regular basis... and most use it as little as once a year.

However, irresponsible drug users are much more visible than responsible ones. You can't really tell if someone's a responsible drug user, because they're not always using drugs! They use drugs in the comfort of their home, they don't drive on drugs, and they get up and go to work every day.

Now don't get me wrong... I am not condoning the use of cocaine. Personally, I think it's too much risk for too little gain. However, I don't think everyone who uses it is doomed to a horrible life of drug addiction. The problem is, noone knows if they could potentially become addicted, there is no way to tell. So the wisest people would steer clear of drugs like these altogether.

On another note... I used to work out high a lot. It didn't make me lift more, but it didn't seem to hurt anything. Now, I wouldn't take like 8 bong hits and go work out, but I'd get a little buzz going. I found that it made it a little more fun to work out... So yeah, you could do it if you want to i guess, but it's not going to give you special powers.
 
This guy i know gets baked outta his tree and works out. I always see him at the gym and he looks soooooo stoned. He's pretty built too.
 
squanto said:
So yeah, you could do it if you want to i guess, but it's not going to give you special powers.

Wrong. It gave me x-ray vision.
 
CowPimp said:
Wrong. It gave me x-ray vision.

It gave me good grammar.:thumb:
 
OK HERES SOME INFO FOR U BITCHES,,,when u smoke some weed,,,test levels rise dramatically for about 1hour and half,,,then they drop below estrogen levels for about 2 days,,,so in reality pot can be used for bb,,,smoke before u lift,,and u will havew high levels of test,,during a workout,,,then 20mg of nolva 1 and a half hours after your last bong ,,,,,,,,u will look like ronnie in less than 3 weeks ,,,i promise u that,,,and gaurentee it with foremans life
 
i have heard that its lowers test level, i havent heard it lowers it below estorgen levels, nor have i heard the lower last for two days, this doesnt make much sence seeing as i smoke at least 3-4 times a week, so i should have redic low test levels? i doubt this
 
kicka19 said:
i have heard that its lowers test level, i havent heard it lowers it below estorgen levels, nor have i heard the lower last for two days, this doesnt make much sence seeing as i smoke at least 3-4 times a week, so i should have redic low test levels? i doubt this
well its obviously turned u into a bitch
 
why dont you smoke pcp then put 500 on bench get someone to pick it up over you then let it go ....you wont feel a thing but then you would have to worry about is beeing able to breathe with a shatter rib cage
 
smallfry said:
why dont you smoke pcp then put 500 on bench get someone to pick it up over you then let it go ....you wont feel a thing but then you would have to worry about is beeing able to breathe with a shatter rib cage

genius.
 
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it will be funny when squaggle is peer pressured into drinking or smoking some time throughout his high school tenure.
 
soxmuscle said:
it will be funny when squaggle is peer pressured into drinking or smoking some time throughout his high school tenure.

Haha. I don't get it.

I must say this has changed some of my thoughts in quite a substantial way. It was definitely speculation on my part (basically all of it). This is a very interesting topic to me and I always like to put my thoughts into the pot o' stew, even if they're totally off base. My opinion is still of a negative nature - I still think most people are way too stupid to do most everyday things they're trusted with, and I'd shudder to think what they'd do with drugs of any kind that change anything mentally or physically. I don't even think most people with a license should be allowed to drive.
 
soxmuscle said:
it will be funny when squaggle is peer pressured into drinking or smoking some time throughout his high school tenure.

Thats awesome nick name for ya squatbogglin
 
Ive done it before too.. some time when i was in middle school.. i just did the 45 pound bar though.. kindof an experiment i was curious.. lol i had a high spotter so it wuznt dangerous or stupid i promise.. but i did it a lot of times.. however im sure my count was unreliable considerin i was high
 
CowPimp said:
However, at the same time, plenty of people drive irresponsibly, use firearms irresponsibly, eat food irresponsibly, etc.
None of which are addictive psychotropic drugs.
 
Dale Mabry said:
A bigger group of people voted for the wrong candidate as president last year (ie., GW Bush), does that mean we should revoke everyone's right to vote?

And you think John Kerry was the right one?! That dumbfuck couldn't make a decision if his life depended on it.
 
I've w/o while 'altered' and I liked it. Then again, I like doing almost anything in altered states. But that's me. I don't compete and I lift for fun.
 
cfs3 said:
And you think John Kerry was the right one?! That dumbfuck couldn't make a decision if his life depended on it.
Obviously Kerry's votes were to please constituants, which does not make him a dumbfuck. Bush's inablilty to speak words, or do many things right makes him a dumbfuck.
 
cfs3 said:
None of which are addictive psychotropic drugs.

I realize this, but I was merely making a point that anything can be done irresponsibly. You must also realize that no drug addicts the majority of people who try it. In fact, the drug with the highest rate of addiction is nicotine (Approximately 1/3 of people who try them).
 
mrA said:
just wondering, would this be a such a bad idea? i have seen it in movies like American buety, i hear u can really concentrate on your mucles. can someone help me out?

Your a complete fucking idiot. This site is dedicated to bodybuilding, not the use of recreational drugs.
 
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