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A raw 315 bench at 18 and 191lbs and natural is top 1% in the counrty IMO.i think im decently strong for my bw:bench ratio
age 20 height 5'7(171 cm) weight ~ 165 lbs(with water retention)
natural on a shitty diet ....been training for ~ 1 year
bench ~ 200 x 10 reps (used to bench more but i've been off for a while)
squat ~ 250 x 10 reps atg
sldls ~ 225 x 10 reps
military ~ 115 x 8 (lame)
bent rows ~ 132 x 10 reps
been off for around 2 months
You've been training for a year and for the last 2 months you've been off and you can squat 250 10x? And bench 200 10x? And SLDL 225 10x?
why is that good?
i'm older by 3 yrs, training for 5 months and can clear that.
You've been training for a year and for the last 2 months you've been off and you can squat 250 10x? And bench 200 10x? And SLDL 225 10x?
I thought that was lame......yes that's what I do and i don't use straps or belts or stuff but i think most of people here have higher numbers...
I'm guessing most people are talking smack!!!!
My numbers are pretty close to yours, but just a tad higher. I got 3 yrs on you though.
Griff.
ill post my numbers later tonight after I go for my squat PR.
I have only been lifting 7 months and bench 300x10 and I'm 175age 20 height 5'7(171 cm) weight ~ 165 lbs(with water retention)
natural on a shitty diet ....been training for ~ 1 year
bench ~ 200 x 10 reps (used to bench more but i've been off for a while)
squat ~ 250 x 10 reps atg
sldls ~ 225 x 10 reps
military ~ 115 x 8 (lame)
bent rows ~ 132 x 10 reps
been off for around 2 months
I have only been lifting 7 months and bench 300x10 and I'm 175
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That is also after taking 4 months offand who are you ??![]()
That is also after taking 4 months off![]()
99.9999% of people under 165lbs can't bench 200x10 after only 10 months of training.what's your problem with a 200 lbs bench ?? it's not a big number....and I didn't mean 2 months withought touching weights I just had no diet and did a moderate intensity workout once every 5-6 days ....
99.9999% of people under 165lbs can't bench 200x10 after only 10 months of training.
So you must be that 1 in a million that can![]()
;1476896 said:Leverage
Someone with long arms, and therefore long levers is technically at a disadvantage if their bone structure does not match. A person with long thin arms will not have the necessary connective tissue and musculature to overcome the poor leverages associated with their bones. Consider two bodybuilders that are identical, only one is six inches taller and all their levers are longer. They may have the same muscle mass, but the one with the shorter levers will be stronger because the weight they are moving through a range of motion is closer to their body and leverage is more efficient. If the person with the longer levers happened to have thicker bones, more muscle mass and more connective tissue, they will be stronger despite their mechanical disadvantage because they are a bigger person and will be proportionally stronger:
Most of them have lifted for years and are bigger than 165are you sure of that ?? i don't think 200 lbs is something big .....
this is the thread you created once (the max bench)
most people here said they could bench 250 and more...
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/showthread.php?t=49485&highlight=bench
here's the thread you started (the three factors that determine strength)
one of them is the leverage ....remember that i am a 5'7 (170 cm) endomorph and I have short arms ...
Though i don't think there is a big problem for a 165 lbs person to bench 200 lbs after a year or less of lifting..
Most of them have lifted for years and are bigger than 165
I call BS son.![]()
99.9999% of people under 165lbs can't bench 200x10 after only 10 months of training.
So you must be that 1 in a million that can![]()
Arguing your lifts on the internet is the most important thing in your life.I don't care for what you call......son
If i said 150 lbs you would have called it bs ...son
bye son i got somethings more important to do then arguing my lifts on the internet ......
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Arguing your lifts on the internet is the most important thing in your life.
Ok kenwoodwhy do you hate me ..., all people here say they could bench 300-500 average .. any way i'll post an ownage video soon when i get a chance ......
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what's a good number for a 169lbs >6months training for deadlift/squat?
lol, what are your lifts man? You act like someone's going to make fun of you or something. If ur lifts are like assassins after only 6 months of training and 170lbs then that's ridiculous. It took me a little while to get to 215-225 for a rep or two, I think I MIGHT be able to hit 200x10 now. I squat oly style now and very deep, I MIGHT be able to bust out a set of 10 with 250lbs. My deadlift is my best lift and I'm pulling between 435 and 455.
I feel like the only "average guy" here that stuck with it long enough to put up acceptable numbers.
I'm surrounded by genetic freaks...
I hate you all.![]()
My deadlift is my best lift and I'm pulling between 435 and 455.
I feel like the only "average guy" here that stuck with it long enough to put up acceptable numbers.
I'm surrounded by genetic freaks...
I hate you all.![]()
Griffin, most people's numbers are just a load of horseshit. Seriously. If the people who take weight training at any gym I've ever been to seriously are a good sample (Notice I said the people who take it seriously, not your average gym goer), then you're way above the rest. I've never seen anyone deadlift over 4 plates except one trainer at my gym who's been lifting on and off for years, is fairly short, and has thick legs. He can rock somewhere in the lower/mid 500s.
Deadlift numbers I'm a little more prone to believe. Ever notice how people's Internet deadlifts are not as impressive as their bench and squat? For good reason: because you can cheat depth on the bench and squat. Most people aren't like Kenwood and don't consider a rack deadlift with straps to be a deadlift.
Assassin, just so you don't take this personally, I'm not referring to you specifically. Really though, a lot of people cough up some bullshit numbers. Those who are lifting real heavy have usually been lifting for over 5 years.