GOP Senator linked to prostitute

[bio-chem]

He didn't tell his wife while he was doing it. And in a 2000 interview, his wife said she'd be more like Lorena Bobbitt than Hillary Clinton if she caught his ass playin' around. . .

how does any of this effect anything at all? everyone is right. this is a non-story

 

[DOMS]

how does any of this effect anything at all? everyone is right. this is a non-story

For a lot of the Democrats, this this stuff is their whole world.

 

[bio-chem]

should maybe focus on a realistic platform for 08 other than the republicans are wrong

 

[DOMS]

They haven't done that in over 7 years.

 

[bio-chem]

They haven't done that in over 7 years.

 

[DOMS]

You're a Democrat?

 

[kbm8795]

clear it up to the public? i think there is a fine line on what needs to be disclosed to the public. i dont think he is under any obligation to speak on this subject until it is brought up with evidence in public. then if he says yea it happened and this is between me and my wife, then thats enough for me

Actually, he made it an obligation by his own statements. He not only advocated for setting a moral bar, but then violated his own standard.

He already admitted it himself. And it ain't just between him and his wife if he publicly holds a different standard for others. He hasn't retracted all of his public statements about how others should resign for infidelity.

 

[kbm8795]

should maybe focus on a realistic platform for 08 other than the republicans are wrong

That "realistic" platform might start with not pretending to possess morals.

 

[kbm8795]

For a lot of the Democrats, this this stuff is their whole world.

Let's reduce this down to something real simple:

David Vitter, 1998: People in public office should resign if they engage in marital infidelity. Congressman Livingston resigned, and so should Bill Clinton.

David Vitter, 2007: My phone number is on the Madam's escort service list but I went to Congress and ran for the Senate anyway.
I made a mistake. I shouldn't resign.

For a lot of Republicans, this seems to be their whole world.

 

[tucker01]

So basically you are saying the Democrat is a quitter and the Republican isn't

 

[kbm8795]

clear it up to the public? i think there is a fine line on what needs to be disclosed to the public. i dont think he is under any obligation to speak on this subject until it is brought up with evidence in public. then if he says yea it happened and this is between me and my wife, then thats enough for me

Well, he raised the bar for that all by himself. He created the obligation for himself when he publicly proclaimed that people engaging in marital infidelity should resign.

Now why (or how) could he have possibly changed his mind?

 

[kbm8795]

So basically you are saying the Democrat is a quitter and the Republican isn't

Livingston was a Republican.

Frankly, the people in Louisiana should just send a group to Washington to clean out Vitter's sorry-ass desk for him.

 

[rooptophunny]

haha of course...

 

[DOMS]

Let's reduce this down to something real simple:

David Vitter, 1998: People in public office should resign if they engage in marital infidelity. Congressman Livingston resigned, and so should Bill Clinton.

David Vitter, 2007: My phone number is on the Madam's escort service list but I went to Congress and ran for the Senate anyway.
I made a mistake. I shouldn't resign.

For a lot of Republicans, this seems to be their whole world.

Broken much?

I was referring to Democrats, like you, who's only purpose in life is to latch onto anything (major or minor) about a Republican official, and run up and down the streets shouting it out. It's become your only real purpose in life.

The Republicans? We don't give a rats about Democratic officials. With the notable exception of perjuring Bill Clinton. If we (as citizens) take notice of them, we just like to laugh at them.

 

[DOMS]

So basically you are saying the Democrat is a quitter and the Republican isn't

That reminds me of the Democrats when they were running around saying "We were duped! GWB duped us!" and then going on to call him a idiot.

They were saying that they were duped by an idiot.

 

[kbm8795]

Broken much?

I was referring to Democrats, like you, who's only purpose in life is to latch onto anything (major or minor) about a Republican official, and run up and down the streets shouting it out. It's become your only real purpose in life.

The Republicans? We don't give a rats about Democratic officials. With the notable exception of perjuring Bill Clinton. If we (as citizens) take notice of them, we just like to laugh at them.

While I realize your ideological convictions often prevent you from seeing certain facts, this isn't some local yokel. . .he's a United States Senator.

A Senator, who, as a Congressman, wasn't pointing at Bill Clinton's perjury - but marital infidelity. . .and using a fellow Republican as an example of proper conduct when caught for such a highly moral offense.

Now he suddenly has a different standard.

 

[kbm8795]

That reminds me of the Democrats when they were running around saying "We were duped! GWB duped us!" and then going on to call him a idiot.

They were saying that they were duped by an idiot.

Yeah...and what are the Republicans in Congress excuses for still being duped?

 

[kbm8795]

Perhaps the whole issue could be solved if Senator Vitter, who described the Federal Marriage Amendment as the most important domestic issue in the nation because "traditional marriage" had to be protected, had introduced a constitutional amendment prohibiting anyone who had committed infidelity from holding office in Congress.

Guess we know why that wasn't introduced.

 

[BoneCrusher]

So just what part of your "values" would support a man who claimed that infidelity was grounds for resignation of public office - while covering up his own and running for office anyway? And how is running on that platform representing your values if his own behavior was exactly the opposite of what he claimed he was representing to you?

kbm we are all numb to this issue these days. It's happened so many times on both sides of the fence that it just doesn't put a ripple in the average American's day anymore. Righteous indignation has gone out of style. It's been replaced with religious paranoia. Get current with your isms. BTW ... you're not a Muslim are you? They are the only ones that care about adultery these days.

The average American is on their second marriage, or survived at least one bout of infidelity. Most guys here at IM would tag a married woman if they new there was no follow up BS from her husband so the morality
thing isn't gonna get anyone to hit the button on the guy.

Republican or Democrat alike ... who he poked is just not gonna get anyone to break out the letterhead. Well, unless he was knockin' the bottom outta that skinny bitch whatshername. That would catch people's interest ... especially if you had that on video.

 

[tucker01]

Wait a second there is a video?!?!?

Finally something of interest in this thread

 

[bigss75]

So basically you are saying the Democrat is a quitter and the Republican isn't

Isnt that how Bush won the first election

 

[bio-chem]

You're a Democrat?

i'm pro-choice. i want there to be two viable options other than, well this one is less of an idiot than the other. i lean republican, but pretty much my whole voting career has been with very little choices. i did vote for a democrat in one of my state elections however

 

[bio-chem]

While I realize your ideological convictions often prevent you from seeing certain facts,.

WOW if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black, what is?

 

[Burner02]

i'm pro-choice. i want there to be two viable options other than, well this one is less of an idiot than the other. i lean republican, but pretty much my whole voting career has been with very little choices. i did vote for a democrat in one of my state elections however

well said...sad, isn't it?

 

[bio-chem]

just give two viable options. politics has killed the statesman

 

[kbm8795]

kbm we are all numb to this issue these days. It's happened so many times on both sides of the fence that it just doesn't put a ripple in the average American's day anymore. Righteous indignation has gone out of style. It's been replaced with religious paranoia. Get current with your isms. BTW ... you're not a Muslim are you? They are the only ones that care about adultery these days.

The average American is on their second marriage, or survived at least one bout of infidelity. Most guys here at IM would tag a married woman if they new there was no follow up BS from her husband so the morality
thing isn't gonna get anyone to hit the button on the guy.

Republican or Democrat alike ... who he poked is just not gonna get anyone to break out the letterhead. Well, unless he was knockin' the bottom outta that skinny bitch whatshername. That would catch people's interest ... especially if you had that on video.

 

[kbm8795]

WOW if that isnt the pot calling the kettle black, what is?

Um...well, I wasn't running for office claiming to be the guardian of marriage...in a political party which declared it would "protect marriage". . .

 

[kbm8795]

Wait a second there is a video?!?!?

Finally something of interest in this thread

You missed the link to the video interview of a New Orleans madam on this thread. Now cover up the portrait of the Queen which must be posted in every Canadian household and you can take a look. . .

 

[bio-chem]

Um...well, I wasn't running for office claiming to be the guardian of marriage...in a political party which declared it would "protect marriage". . .

are you slow or just plain....? my post was in reference to you telling doms his ideological convictions have blinded him. exactly what is happening to you. it was in no way a reference to vitter. i even quoted you saying it to doms. how could you miss that?

 

[kbm8795]

are you slow or just plain....? my post was in reference to you telling doms his ideological convictions have blinded him. exactly what is happening to you. it was in no way a reference to vitter. i even quoted you saying it to doms. how could you miss that?

Ohh...you mean the ideological convictions that the senator, who himself set higher standards for "moral" behavior when holding public office, shouldn't be held accountable by those standards when he violates them because everybody does it.

Well, not everyone ran around whining about protecting "traditional" marriage, or proclaiming that public officials committing infidelity should resign from office. But he did. And so did a lot of people in his political party.

There isn't much to factually debate on this matter. The dude said one thing and did another. Now we all might not be surprised at this, but we didn't set his standards - he did.

The facts don't seem very blinding at all.