2 Questions.

[Tacomaster]

1. Can i eat sugar on my keto carb-ups?
Yes i am doing the keto diet.

2. does my meal plan look okay?
Meal 1: 4 oz. red meat, 1 egg, 2/4 cup of mixed cheese, 3 tbs of canola oil, fish oil (omega-3 omega-6), water.
Carbs/Protein/Fat = 3/30-40/70-75.

Meal 2: Chicken 1 piece, 1 egg, 1/4 cup of mixed cheese, 3 tbs canola oil, mixed nuts, fish oil again, water.
7/30-40/70-75.

Meal 3: 4 oz. red meat, 1 egg, 1/4 cup cheese, 3 tbs canola oil, 5 pieces of pepperoni slices, water.
2/30-40/70-75.

Meal 4: Chicken 1 piece, 2 eggs, 1/4 cup cheese, 3 tbs canola oil, fish oil, water.
3/30-40/70-75.

Meal 5: 5 pieces of cooked bacon, 1 egg, 1/4 cup cheese, 3 tbs canola oil, fish oil, water.
2/30-40/70-75.

 

[VanessaNicole]

Well....

Yeah I guess.

But you're gonna get sick if you eat like that.

 

[Built]

Well....

Yeah I guess.

But you're gonna get sick if you eat like that.

Care to explain why?

 

[VanessaNicole]

Absolutely.

I know everyone will disagree with me because I'm a dietician. However, a diet like this will inevitably cause a long list of vitamin deficiencies and most certainly diverticulosis and other digestive problems. It also will increase the risk of cardiovacular disease as well as several types of cancer.

 

[Built]

Absolutely.

I know everyone will disagree with me because I'm a dietician. However, a diet like this will inevitably cause a long list of vitamin deficiencies and most certainly diverticulosis and other digestive problems. It also will increase the risk of cardiovacular disease as well as several types of cancer.

I doubt very much that the OP is considering eating like this over an extended period of time!

But out of curiosity, for someone considering eating this way long-term, which parts of the diet do you feel will do this, Vanessa?

 

[VanessaNicole]

I doubt very much that the OP is considering eating like this over an extended period of time!

But out of curiosity, for someone considering eating this way long-term, which parts of the diet do you feel will do this, Vanessa?

Lack of fat soluble vitamins from vegetables
Lack of fiber from fruits, vegetables and whole grains
Non existant intake of antioxidants and phytonutrients
High intake of saturated fats
High intake of nitrates in processed meats

Shall I contunue?

 

[Built]

Please do.
I eat virtually no grains. And I eat plenty of natural, saturated fats from animal (egg yolks, meat, butter) and vegetable (coconut milk) sources.

Care to discuss?

 

[VanessaNicole]

Sure.

Didn't say one *needs* to eat grains.

I mentioned that this diet has no fiber sources (such as fruit, veggies and grains). This can cause little pockets of infection along the intestinal tract because of the sticky viscous nature of the stool produced by a fiberless diet.

I eat very few grains myself, however I include plenty of fiber rich foods such as fruits and vegetables.

It is overwhelmingly substantiated that a low produce diet causes/contributes to a wide array of health problems.

 

[Irons77]

15-25g of fiber a day good?

 

[Built]

Ah. Gotcha Vanessa. Thanks for clarifying.

I get in at least 25 g of fibre a day. I just don't handle grain very well. I eat a little, occasionally.

Wheat - gaaah I love that shit but it makes me SO damned hungry!

What do you know about low-level food intolerances? I've suspected celiac for a while, although most with celiac are skinny, but I'm reading about some with overweight may also have celiac.

Thoughts?

 

[VanessaNicole]

Yes.

 

[VanessaNicole]

Ah. Gotcha Vanessa. Thanks for clarifying.

I get in at least 25 g of fibre a day. I just don't handle grain very well. I eat a little, occasionally.

Wheat - gaaah I love that shit but it makes me SO damned hungry!

What do you know about low-level food intolerances? I've suspected celiac for a while, although most with celiac are skinny, but I'm reading about some with overweight may also have celiac.

Thoughts?

What type of symptoms do you have?

There is no such thing as a "typical" presentation of celiac disease. (For example many people with hypothyroidism gain weight but hypothyrodism can reduce the appetite in some and those people may actually lose weight).

Actually, it is interesting to me that some of the symptoms of celiacs disease are associated with malabsorption. Meaning that it may be the lack of the nutrients in grain and not the grain itself which is responsible for the symptoms.

What happens when you eat gluten? (Besides getting hungry of course. I am the last person to disagree that wheat is like crack)

 

[Built]

That's what I've been reading, too.

When I eat a little bit - like, if I dust chicken with flour before I pan-fry it, I'm fine.

But if I ate bread every day, or pasta, first up I'd get hungry as hell. And I hold water like a sonofabitch.

Let me be very clear here - I eat very well, plenty of lean protein sources (chicken, buffalo, fish, cottage cheese), healthy fats (avocados, raw nuts, natural butter and cream, olive oil, eggs, meat, coconut milk) and a metric asston of produce (typical day: entire avocado, ounce of raw nuts, half a head of romaine, quarter of a cabbage, several cups of broccoli, cup of green beans, berries, an apple and or a pear), and on training days, an additional 60-100 g carb from starchy sources (usually potato, sweet potato, rice or oats).

None of these foods make me bloat, even on a carb-load.

But wheat. MY WORD I can bloat on wheat! I can hold several pounds of water if I load up on wheat! My bowel seems to feel kinda bound up too. TMI? LOL.

It's not the "white vs refined" thing either. I can eat white rice pre or post workout, sugar, no problem. But even whole grain wheat does this to me.

I still eat it occasionally. It's no biggie. I know it's just water. But the bigger deal is the hunger. I can NOT stop eating on days I eat wheat. They're "free days". Very deliberate.

Any of this help?

 

[VanessaNicole]

That's what I've been reading, too.

When I eat a little bit - like, if I dust chicken with flour before I pan-fry it, I'm fine.

But if I ate bread every day, or pasta, first up I'd get hungry as hell. And I hold water like a sonofabitch.

Let me be very clear here - I eat very well, plenty of lean protein sources (chicken, buffalo, fish, cottage cheese), healthy fats (avocados, raw nuts, natural butter and cream, olive oil, eggs, meat, coconut milk) and a metric asston of produce (typical day: entire avocado, ounce of raw nuts, half a head of romaine, quarter of a cabbage, several cups of broccoli, cup of green beans, berries, an apple and or a pear), and on training days, an additional 60-100 g carb from starchy sources (usually potato, sweet potato, rice or oats).

None of these foods make me bloat, even on a carb-load.

But wheat. MY WORD I can bloat on wheat! I can hold several pounds of water if I load up on wheat! My bowel seems to feel kinda bound up too. TMI? LOL.

It's not the "white vs refined" thing either. I can eat white rice pre or post workout, sugar, no problem. But even whole grain wheat does this to me.

I still eat it occasionally. It's no biggie. I know it's just water. But the bigger deal is the hunger. I can NOT stop eating on days I eat wheat. They're "free days". Very deliberate.

Any of this help?

Bloating is the most common complaint in those with celiacs.

Also constipation and flatulence.

Weither or not you have celiacs disease you won't know unless you have a celiac blood panel.

But either way I don't think it matters. If wheat affects you in this way then you shouldn't eat it.

I know that I have no problems with pasta or bread. But if I eat a bowl of cereal I'll feel like crap and need a nap an hour later. I have no specific allergy, my body clearly doesn't like cereal.

I think you are right to get your starch from potatoes and rice.