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All Hail our New Leader, COMRADE OBAMA

Just saying the guy came out with an olive branch and you basically punched the dude in the face. He didn't say anything bad nor ask for a handout.

We make a lot of money and get taxed a lot....a whole lot, so I do have reason to bitch.

STFU...damn that was harsh.


dude, take a chill pill.. i wasnt talking down to you.. i was saying in general. maybe you missed the part where i said there were people that are smarter and make more money than me.. and i dont think their wealth shoulod be re distributed. :rolleyes: i get taxed a lot as well.. i dont know what your problem is.
 
Agreed. This was the change this country needed. Names and vulgarities never left this vessel. The path we were on had to be altered, only more of the same could be promised from Mccain.

Now, that this is behind us, let us all unite, and be what was once promised to us by valient individuals, we are UNITED, the united states of America.

The olive branch


The punch.


I am cool, I'm always cool.
That wasn't cool.
 
What really boggles the mind is that all of those who voted for him are stupid.

We must be a dumb ass country, really think about it.
 
The olive branch



The punch.


I am cool, I'm always cool.
That wasn't cool.
i see...

it sounded like a propaganda speech, and i dont agree with it.

What really boggles the mind is that all of those who voted for him are stupid.

We must be a dumb ass country, really think about it.

thats why i didnt vote for either candidate. they are both fuck ups
 
and you voted obama?

Is it a rule for Republicans not to raise taxes? Do you really think McCain wouldn't raise our taxes?


Mayor Michael Bloomberg: New York City may be forced to raise taxes
:mad:
KATHLEEN LUCADAMO
DAILY NEWS CITY HALL BUREAU
Wednesday, November 5th 2008, 3:45 PM

Watts/News
Mayor Bloomberg gives the grim budget news at a press conference Wednesday.
Mayor Bloomberg painted a bleak economic picture Wednesday for the Big Apple and pitched raising income taxes up to 15% to plug expanding budget holes.
While the income tax hike is considered a last resort, his midyear budget plan calls for higher property taxes, fewer city jobs and eliminating the $400 tax rebate many homeowners were counting on receiving this month.
When the Daily News asked the Department of Finance recently why the rebates hadn't been mailed yet, a spokesman blamed a glitch with addresses.
"Although our forecast for the economy was pessimistic six months ago, New York City is experiencing even greater economic distress than any economist or financial expert had anticipated," he said.
 
His ability to rally a huge majority of the American people for a cause is one huge factor, like he said it's not all up to him to make the changes in our country. We are the country and the economy is us, we can make the changes he is there to provide the leadership. What happened to all of the "The president really doesn't have much to do with how things are run...." when all of us Bush Haters were dumping on him? Now all of the sudden everything hinges on what the Commander in Chief does make up your minds....

this is the best thing i've ever read. EVAR!

and because it didn't call anyone a name or say anything extreme one way or the other it gets ignored.
 
i see...

it sounded like a propaganda speech, and i dont agree with it.



thats why i didnt vote for either candidate. they are both fuck ups

Yeah, I don't think he meant it like that. There's so much tension with the elections.........
 
i see...

it sounded like a propaganda speech, and i dont agree with it.

So, now i am guilty of propaganda speeches?

When do I get paid?
 
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i admit I am not really down with the tax plans of either of the candidates, but can someone very simply state what effect Obama winning will have on my family? We are a single income family at the moment earning under $100K per year.
 
it's not all up to him to make the changes in our country. We are the country and the economy is us, we can make the changes he is there to provide the leadership.

Sounds good on paper, but if the left implements the socialist programs they have proposed, there is no longer an incentive to work hard. Why work when it gets handed to you regardless? We'll end up with even more of a nanny state.

Democrats want us reliant on the government. Once people are, why would they vote for any Republican who is supposed to stand for self reliance?
 
i admit I am not really down with the tax plans of either of the candidates, but can someone very simply state what effect Obama winning will have on my family? We are a single income family at the moment earning under $100K per year.

Supposedly nothing, if you believe the campaign promises that your taxes won't be raised under a Democratic White House & Congress. Good luck with that ;)
 
but can someone very simply state what effect Obama winning will have on my family? We are a single income family at the moment earning under $100K per year.

Your taxes are going to be raised. Because he won't do anything to fix our corporate tax rate (second highest in the world), jobs will continue to go overseas, let's just hope it's not you or your loved ones job. I'll spare you what is going to happen to your quality of health care if Obama gets his socialist hands on it.
 
Your taxes are going to be raised. Because he won't do anything to fix our corporate tax rate (second highest in the world), jobs will continue to go overseas, let's just hope it's not you or your loved ones job. I'll spare you what is going to happen to your quality of health care if Obama gets his socialist hands on it.

Jesus christ, I'll argue to the death with you about how pathetic Chris Mason and his terrible company is but like has been said before, you let your ego get in the way far too often.

The definition of socialism: [SIZE=-1]"An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government."

Based off of the definition of socialism, how are we not already a socialist country?

This whole bitterness stance by the hardcore republicans on this board is downright silly. The world is not going to end, everybody isn't going to lose their job, your wife isn't going to cheat on you (except in doublebase case where I'm going to spread that twat like jelly on toast), your car isn't going to blow up tomorrow, your penis isn't going to fall off, etc.

The way people are reacting today (especially in Indiana), you'd think the world was ending. Well, it's not people, so get your head out of your asses and support your president who by all accounts had this election wrapped up months ago.


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Jesus christ, I'll argue to the death with you about how pathetic Chris Mason and his terrible company is but like has been said before, you let your ego get in the way far too often.

The definition of socialism: [SIZE=-1]"An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government."

Based off of the definition of socialism, how are we not already a socialist country?

This whole bitterness stance by the hardcore republicans on this board is downright silly. The world is not going to end, everybody isn't going to lose their job, your wife isn't going to cheat on you (except in doublebase case where I'm going to spread that twat like jelly on toast), your car isn't going to blow up tomorrow, your penis isn't going to fall off, etc.

The way people are reacting today (especially in Indiana), you'd think the world was ending. Well, it's not people, so get your head out of your asses and support your president who by all accounts had this election wrapped up months ago.


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I am really trying to keep a good attitude about this. I am hopeful for the first time in a long time. It is a total bummer to hear so many people preaching doom and destruction like its the rapture or something. Some of it is childish, while some of it is down right disturbing.

Can we wait until he makes a mistake before we bitch? Can you give him the benefit of the doubt like we did Bush. For fuck's sake, Bush was in office for 2 years before I had anything bad to say about him. He later turned out to be one of the worst presidents in the history of this country.

Give him some time and see how he does, first. Many of you want him to fail. You would love for him to run the country in to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Grow the fuck up!
 
Jesus christ, I'll argue to the death with you about how pathetic Chris Mason and his terrible company is but like has been said before, you let your ego get in the way far too often.

The definition of socialism: [SIZE=-1]"An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government."

Based off of the definition of socialism, how are we not already a socialist country?

This whole bitterness stance by the hardcore republicans on this board is downright silly. The world is not going to end, everybody isn't going to lose their job, your wife isn't going to cheat on you (except in doublebase case where I'm going to spread that twat like jelly on toast), your car isn't going to blow up tomorrow, your penis isn't going to fall off, etc.

The way people are reacting today (especially in Indiana), you'd think the world was ending. Well, it's not people, so get your head out of your asses and support your president who by all accounts had this election wrapped up months ago.


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There's an infinite difference between a universal health care system ran by the government and what we have now.

1. There isn't a single government agency or division that runs efficiently; do we really want an organization that developed the U.S. Tax Code handling something as complex as health care?

2. "Free" health care isn't really free since we must pay for it with taxes; expenses for health care would have to be paid for with higher taxes or spending cuts in other areas such as defense, education, etc.

3. Profit motives, competition, and individual ingenuity have always led to greater cost control and effectiveness.

4. Government-controlled health care would lead to a decrease in patient flexibility.

5. Patients aren't likely to curb their drug costs and doctor visits if health care is free; thus, total costs will be several times what they are now.

6. Just because Americans are uninsured doesn't mean they can't receive health care; nonprofits and government-run hospitals provide services to those who don't have insurance, and it is illegal to refuse emergency medical service because of a lack of insurance.

7. Government-mandated procedures will likely reduce doctor flexibility and lead to poor patient care.

8. Healthy people who take care of themselves will have to pay for the burden of those who smoke, are obese, etc.

9. A long, painful transition will have to take place involving lost insurance industry jobs, business closures, and new patient record creation.

10. Loss of private practice options and possible reduced pay may dissuade many would-be doctors from pursuing the profession-and leading to a decrease in the quality of care.

11. Like social security, any government benefit eventually is taken as a "right" by the public, meaning that it's politically near impossible to remove or curtail it later on when costs get out of control.
 
There's an infinite difference between a universal health care system ran by the government and what we have now.

I'm not just talking about health care.

If you don't pay your taxes on your house, the government kicks you to the curb.

If you don't pay taxes on your car, the government impounds your car until you can pay those taxes.

I understand what you're saying, but you missed my point: by definition, we are already a socialist country.
 
I am really trying to keep a good attitude about this. I am hopeful for the first time in a long time. It is a total bummer to hear so many people preaching doom and destruction like its the rapture or something. Some of it is childish, while some of it is down right disturbing.

Can we wait until he makes a mistake before we bitch? Can you give him the benefit of the doubt like we did Bush. For fuck's sake, Bush was in office for 2 years before I had anything bad to say about him. He later turned out to be one of the worst presidents in the history of this country.

Give him some time and see how he does, first. Many of you want him to fail. You would love for him to run the country in to the ground just so you can say "I told you so". Grow the fuck up!
KelJu hits another one out of the frikkin park :clap:

How many times must this be repeated. IF you earn less than $250,000 a year, your taxes will not be raised!
you can repeat it as much as you like, but it still doesn't make it any more believable :no:
 
How many times must this be repeated. IF you earn less than $250,000 a year, your taxes will not be raised!

Boy, you are in for a BIG surprise. I'm going to bookmark this, and when he raises taxes on incomes less than $250,000, I'll bring this thread back up.
 
Jesus christ, I'll argue to the death with you about how pathetic Chris Mason and his terrible company is but like has been said before, you let your ego get in the way far too often.

The definition of socialism: [SIZE=-1]"An economic system in which the basic means of production are primarily owned and controlled collectively, usually by government."

Based off of the definition of socialism, how are we not already a socialist country?

This whole bitterness stance by the hardcore republicans on this board is downright silly. The world is not going to end, everybody isn't going to lose their job, your wife isn't going to cheat on you (except in doublebase case where I'm going to spread that twat like jelly on toast), your car isn't going to blow up tomorrow, your penis isn't going to fall off, etc.

The way people are reacting today (especially in Indiana), you'd think the world was ending. Well, it's not people, so get your head out of your asses and support your president who by all accounts had this election wrapped up months ago.


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The world is not ending, it's just in the hands of black racist redistribution-of-wealth moron. The US isn't going to end, but things are going to get real shitty.

As a sign, Obama gets elected and the market takes an almost 500 point drop.
 
As a sign, Obama gets elected and the market takes an almost 500 point drop.
Stocks fall as investors ponder Obama presidency
By SARA LEPRO â?????? 7 hours ago
NEW YORK (AP) â?????? A case of post-election nerves sent stocks lower Wednesday as investors began questioning what impact a Barack Obama presidency will have on business and the overall economy. The Dow Jones industrials fell more than 300 points and the major indexes all fell more than 3 percent.
Stocks fell initially as investors cashed in gains after a six-day run that lifted the Standard & Poor's 500 index more than 18 percent. The selling picked up momentum as the market began to ponder what an Obama administration might do.
Obama will inherit an enormous budget deficit when he is sworn in Jan. 20. Analysts said they the market is already growing anxious about who Obama selects as the next Treasury Secretary, as well as who he picks for other Cabinet positions.
"A lot of the policy going forward is going to have an effect on the various sectors of the market," said Joe Keetle, senior wealth manager for Dawson Wealth Management.
Obama's victory means that industries such as oil and gas producers, utilities and pharmaceuticals may face greater regulation and even taxes, while labor unions and automakers are expected to benefit.
In addition, banks, insurance companies, hedge funds and the rest of the financial sector will almost certainly face attempts at a regulatory overhaul by the Democratic Congress next year.
Analysts said the market was also growing uneasy in advance of the Labor Department's October employment report, to be issued on Friday. Economists on average expect a 200,000 drop in payrolls, according to Thomson/IFR. Employers have been slashing jobs after a freeze-up in the credit markets crippled many companies' ability to get financing.
The market showed no reaction to the release of the Institute for Supply Management's services sector index, which fell to 44.4 in October from 50.2 in September. That's a steeper drop than the market expected, but analysts said investors have largely factored in negative economic news for the time being.
In midday trading, the Dow Jones industrial average fell 312.06, or 3.24 percent, to 9,313.22.
The S&P 500 index fell 33.49, or 3.33 percent, to 972.26. Through the six sessions that ended Tuesday, the index, the one most closely watched by market professionals, rose 18.3 percent.
The Nasdaq composite index fell 63.54, or 3.57 percent, to 1,716.58, while the Russell 2000 index of smaller companies fell 18.56, or 3.40 percent, to 527.41.
Declining issues outnumbered advancers by about 2 to 1 on the New York Stock Exchange, where volume came to a light 518 million shares.
Wednesday's trading, which followed a 300-point jump in the Dow on Tuesday, showed that the market is living up to expectations of continued volatility as it tries to recover from the devastating losses of the last two months.
Still, analysts said they're seeing a calmer mood on the Street.
"The credit markets are starting to show some improvement and I think that has to continue for all the markets to do well," Keetle said. The paralysis in the credit markets that began after the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in mid-September has been alleviated somewhat by a series of government interventions, but they still show some signs of strain.
"Unless there is some other dramatic event that takes place, I think the markets will perform in a little bit more natural way instead of large swings one direction or the other," Keetle said.
Banks continued to ratchet down the rates they charge one another for borrowing on Wednesday, but the key interbank lending rate â?????? the London Interbank Offered Rate, or Libor â?????? remains well above the Federal Reserve's target interest rate of 1.00 percent. Libor for three-month dollar loans fell to 2.51 percent from 2.71 percent Tuesday.
And the bid for Treasury bills remains high. The three-month bill, considered one of the safest assets around, fell slightly to 0.44 percent from 0.48 percent late Tuesday. A low yield indicates high demand.
The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note fell to 3.72 percent from 3.73 percent late Tuesday.
The dollar fell against most other major currencies. Gold prices rose.
Light, sweet crude dropped $4.96 to $65.60 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
In Asian trading, Japan's Nikkei index rose 4.46 percent, and Hong Kong's Hang Seng Index rose 3.17 percent. In afternoon trading in Europe, Britain's FTSE 100 fell 1.32 percent, Germany's DAX index fell 1.51 percent, and France's CAC-40 fell 1.21 percent.
 
How many times must this be repeated. IF you earn less than $250,000 a year, your taxes will not be raised!

You don't even know the policies of your own candidate YOU VOTED INTO THE WHITE HOUSE...250k was a thing of the past. He has changed that over the course of the election. Glad to see you voted on the issues!

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