yeah, but you cannot compare MJ to just any other entertainer, he is much more than that, in the upcoming years (if not already) his legacy will be much bigger than Elvis's in my opinion.
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I don't think so. In the upcoming years, people will forget about him more and more just like they have been doing since the 90s.
He had one album that did amazing (Thriller). That was released in 1982... a time when music was horrible and dead. There was no competition. Popular music sucked so bad that any half decent album was destined to be a huge hit.
His next 2 albums pretty much only sold on the popularity and promise of Thriller... it's been all down hill from there.
you're completely looking over everything else, i.e. over 750 million albums sold, and MANY other notable things, not to mention being the most famous person in the entire world.
Mark my words. People WILL_NOT forget michael jackson. He has done so much for music that even just looking at musical history his name pops up.
There's nothing like a time when music is horrible and dead. Songs come and go, most come and most go. However what other tracks from the 1970s do you still hear on radio? Even before his death his music was played everywhere and he was highly recognised.
There are no fundamental flaws, it's an ANALOGY. I'm not mourning him like I would mourn a relative or a close friend, but I am mourning him enough for what he gave me. You are ignoring the subjective feelings that occur. Just because you are using text does not mean you can ignore human feelings, and his music did provoke some of the strongest human feelings you can see. If you watched his live performances you would know. But you just choose to look through the binoculars and miss everything else around.
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Famous for being a has-been freak. He sold lots in the 80s... when there was no decent competition.
740 million... the Beatles and Elvis both have over a billion
In 2007, MJ didn't have one album in the top 40. Eagles did. Led Zeppelin did. The Beatles did.
Here is a top 15 list of album sales since 1991
Chart Watch Extra: The Top 15 Album Acts Of The Bar-Code Era - Chart Watch
MJ was an 80s wonder. You will notice he isn't in the top 15 since 1991 even though he has released records.
However in 2nd place is the Beatles who hadn't released anything new in 40 years. Elvis is still on the top 15 list also.
He had a couple amazing years... and has done nothing since.
Are you kidding me? I hear lots of 60s and 70s on the radio. I can count on one hand how many times I have heard an MJ song since the 90s.
Must be a European thing...
Up until last week, MJ has been considered an embarrasment by most people in the US
I am sure MJ is still popular in Europe... but then again, you people listen to David Hasselhoff too
Let me just ask you this.
If you were close to a relative, but then they became distant for any reason. When they died, and you went to mourn their loss, how would you react if people started accusing you of coming there and not even being close. How would you feel if there were people there condemning him for every bad thing he did (and we all do bad stuff so don't bs).
My $0.02 have a good day
They were around him when they needed money or just to tag along.
I am not close to my relatives but in time of need I am there for them.
Wrong, I still hear music from that era being played.
In fact a lot of sampled music came from there.
I thought Marvin Gaye was better, Stevie Wonder......there's a whole bunch of singers who thought were better. Maybe not so much as dancing but I am really more into the music.
They did for almost a decade.
What has he done lately? A lot of fans preferred hearing that rap crap over his music, even some blacks were calling his music soft.
erm.... okay.... shows how informed your statements are. Well done for getting it completely wrong
Yea thats if you listen to the radio stations that play the old fogies music. We have BBC Radio 2.
However if you listen to the mainstream stations that play all the latest music by akon, lil'wayne and people like that, then you still hear MJ songs but no other songs by the beatles and elvis.
It seems all the MJ haters on this forum belong in the minority in terms of interests. Just get on with your lives please and stop crashing this guy's funeral. I hope someone irons out all your wrong doings at your funerals(i dont really, just making a statement
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Yea thats if you listen to the radio stations that play the old fogies music. We have BBC Radio 2.
However if you listen to the mainstream stations that play all the latest music by akon, lil'wayne and people like that, then you still hear MJ songs but no other songs by the beatles and elvis.
It seems all the MJ haters on this forum belong in the minority in terms of interests. Just get on with your lives please and stop crashing this guy's funeral. I hope someone irons out all your wrong doings at your funerals(i dont really, just making a statement
Sorry T-man, but go around the net and you will see that some idolized him which is wrong and others who detested him.
I'm in the middle, he was weird but he was a good entertainer.
Okay how many actually idolise him?? Are you really going to count the minority?? In that case can I also say that Americans are ncests just because of a minority?
And anyways any big artist is idolized by a few people nomatter who they are, so you could say the same for anyone.
A large portion of the world is uneducated and intrigued by the simplest shit, like sequined gloves and fedoras because they look flashy, do you think most of those people in the third world countries know the lyrics? Michael provided repetitive catchy tunes and heee-heeeee oooo oooo's plus the dancing, especially choreographed dancing people could copy easily..........
Yea thats if you listen to the radio stations that play the old fogies music. We have BBC Radio 2.
However if you listen to the mainstream stations that play all the latest music by akon, lil'wayne and people like that, then you still hear MJ songs but no other songs by the beatles and elvis.
It seems all the MJ haters on this forum belong in the minority in terms of interests. Just get on with your lives please and stop crashing this guy's funeral. I hope someone irons out all your wrong doings at your funerals(i dont really, just making a statement
I am just talking about listening to music in public. When at restaurants and at the mall... places where I am not choosing the music. I still hear the Beatles a lot. I NEVER hear anything from MJ.
I just think there is a big difference in the US and England. Here in the US, we pretty much got over him 10-20 years ago and never looked back until now. He was just considered a weirdo freak that was a big hit in the 80s and then lost his way and went wacko.
He may be more popular in England, I can't say if he is or isn't. I can only show that in the last 20 years his record sales have been on a steady decline and he is no longer in the top record sellers.
What the hell is up with that? He's like a God in Germany.
How can you not love him?
YouTube - David "The Hoff" Hasselhoff - Jump In My Car
Well he is more popular in the black & foreign community. I don't mean to be racist but white americans & english.... how can I explain this without sounding offensive.... they kinda... look at jacko's bad sides, criticise him?? more? Negative vibes shall we say
Shoot me down for this one if you like with PC but I know what I mean
And to the not hearing michael jackson in a cafe... well i can honestly say right now i have never heard a beatles song, only heard a couple of elvis songs but heard lots of michael's. Even when I was in Kenya I heard of elvis but I never heard him, only michael's. It's my word against yours on this one I'm afriad.
And to manic, if his lyrics are bad then what do say, Elvis, Beatles or any other artists who has been brought up on this discussion's lyrics have that make them "good" over michael's??
Good night
I don't know but if
I don't like Pelosi but I agree with her, T-man would canonize MJ if he could. 
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas is a self serving idiot.
Pelosi Shuts Down Resolution On Michael Jackson
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi shut the door Thursday to a resolution honoring Michael Jackson because debate on the symbolic measure could raise "contrary views" about the pop star's life.
Lawmakers are free to use House speeches "to express their sympathy or their praise any time that they wish," said Pelosi, D-Calif. "I don't think it's necessary for us to have a resolution."
A resolution sponsored by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, cites some of the singer's charitable acts and proclaims him an American legend, musical icon and world humanitarian.
Even before Pelosi's comments, some Democrats said privately they did not support the resolution and a divisive debate would hurt House efforts to muster the votes for priorities such as health care and climate change.
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who posted a video on YouTube calling Michael Jackson a "pervert" and a "pedophile," has pledged to do all he could to block the resolution.
Michael Jackson was acquitted in 2005 of charges that he molested a 13-year-old boy. Those allegations, and his admission that children slept in his bed at his home but nothing sexual occurred, have led some members of Congress to put distance between themselves and any formal honor for the entertainer.
"A resolution, I think, would open up to contrary views to ??? that are not necessary at this time to be expressed in association with a resolution whose purpose is quite different," Pelosi said at a Capitol Hill news conference where she discussed various legislative matters.
Unbowed, Jackson Lee said she will seek support from colleagues who thanked her when she introduced the measure June 26, one day after Michael Jackson died. She said honorary resolutions don't often "pass the next day."
"On this floor we elevate people and doing that we have to work to tell your story," she said after a House vote. But she would need support from Democratic leadership for the resolution to advance to the full House from the committee where it is now.
When members of the Congressional Black Caucus held a moment of silence in the House after Jackson died June 25, some lawmakers walked out of the chamber.
Jackson Lee has pledged that the resolution, now before the House Foreign Affairs Committee where she is a member, would come to the full House for debate. Such honorary measures normally move quickly from committee to the full House and pass on a voice vote.
But Jackson Lee's resolution was in trouble early. It drew only one co-sponsor, Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., and was not endorsed by other black caucus members.
From the stage at Jackson's memorial Tuesday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, Jackson Lee hoisted a framed copy of the resolution.
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas is a self serving idiot.
Pelosi Shuts Down Resolution On Michael Jackson
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi shut the door Thursday to a resolution honoring Michael Jackson because debate on the symbolic measure could raise "contrary views" about the pop star's life.
Lawmakers are free to use House speeches "to express their sympathy or their praise any time that they wish," said Pelosi, D-Calif. "I don't think it's necessary for us to have a resolution."
A resolution sponsored by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, cites some of the singer's charitable acts and proclaims him an American legend, musical icon and world humanitarian.
Even before Pelosi's comments, some Democrats said privately they did not support the resolution and a divisive debate would hurt House efforts to muster the votes for priorities such as health care and climate change.
Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who posted a video on YouTube calling Michael Jackson a "pervert" and a "pedophile," has pledged to do all he could to block the resolution.
Michael Jackson was acquitted in 2005 of charges that he molested a 13-year-old boy. Those allegations, and his admission that children slept in his bed at his home but nothing sexual occurred, have led some members of Congress to put distance between themselves and any formal honor for the entertainer.
"A resolution, I think, would open up to contrary views to ??? that are not necessary at this time to be expressed in association with a resolution whose purpose is quite different," Pelosi said at a Capitol Hill news conference where she discussed various legislative matters.
Unbowed, Jackson Lee said she will seek support from colleagues who thanked her when she introduced the measure June 26, one day after Michael Jackson died. She said honorary resolutions don't often "pass the next day."
"On this floor we elevate people and doing that we have to work to tell your story," she said after a House vote. But she would need support from Democratic leadership for the resolution to advance to the full House from the committee where it is now.
When members of the Congressional Black Caucus held a moment of silence in the House after Jackson died June 25, some lawmakers walked out of the chamber.
Jackson Lee has pledged that the resolution, now before the House Foreign Affairs Committee where she is a member, would come to the full House for debate. Such honorary measures normally move quickly from committee to the full House and pass on a voice vote.
But Jackson Lee's resolution was in trouble early. It drew only one co-sponsor, Rep. Diane Watson, D-Calif., and was not endorsed by other black caucus members.
From the stage at Jackson's memorial Tuesday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, Jackson Lee hoisted a framed copy of the resolution.
Awful.
I just dont agree with all the attention this dumbass is getting. The other day I saw the video of him hanging his kid off a balcony. What kind of sh*t is that.
An thats all i have to say about that....
(Forrest Gump)
An thats all i have to say about that....
(Forrest Gump)
Lyrically even Michael would admit that his stuff paled(not his face)in comparison to the Beatles, he has no songs that can match up to Golden Slumbers, A Day In The Life, Revolution, Across the Universe, Tomorrow Never Knows, etc......why do you think he bought all of the rights to their songs....the Beatles were able to put poetry into music, songs you can lay back and get lost in your own mind, they have plenty of songs that trigger the imagination. Michaels music is geared towards dancing either while he was performing or so his fans can mimic him in their rooms or at clubs......
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