Harvard Professor ordeal

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didn't you know? the LA riots though causing billions of dollars in damage were a great avenue for social change. Race relations in southern california are much improved as police officers and gang bangers get along now. We no longer have black men running from the cops while high and resisting arrest, white police officers don't even carry a club any more. hand cuffs and guns are now obsolete as law breakers now turn themselves in of their own volition. we have reached utopia.

or maybe they just broke shit and got free stuff

Brother, the people who actually believe this shit making me want to puke. I'm seriously getting worked up over this crap and I consider myself a very even tempered person.

I generally can see both side of a discussion but this is down right stupid!

Let's see, we'll go beat the shit out of some helpless trucker who's in the wrong place at the wrong time. We'll grab a bunch of free shit that's only free because we've scared the shit out of anyone willing to stop us. Then we'll live happily ever after because in scaring the crap out of the general public they'll see how our plight has driven us to these horrible but required actions.

 

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Keylan

i meant reconstucting a system that didn't cater to the needs of all perhaps by deconstructing in an effort to rectify. i feel the riots brought on real change and that is positive in my book. rite is rite. granted it was not the nicest, classiest, peacefulest way but it worked.

What changes? I didn't see any?

mlk was shot wasn't he?

What's your point young man?
Your saying he deserved it?

don't get me wrong sharpton, jackson, king, farrakhan, x and many others all had/have some good ideas in terms of uniting people.

They do more to separate than unite, Sharpton was an ahole in the begining (The false Tammery (sic) rape case) Jackson is in it for the ho's and money and Farrakhan preaches hate.

imo the riots weren't about "i need a new pair of kiks" they were about "we refuse to let this happen anymore". that's a pretty clear dichotomy

The riots here were about stealing buddy and from what the world saw was looting which translate to greed.
Like I said before, if they really wanted to riot, direct that hate to the court system and to the police stations.
I'm sure there are a lot of black civil servant (cops, EMT, Judges) who coould have staged a shutdown.

Bottom line is that the looters were scum.

How old are you anyway?

 

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I can't stand to hear this shit anymore. Riots are good because they bring about social change? Are you fucking kidding me???

I am at a loss also. What are they teaching these kids.

 

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Pundit Glenn Beck calls President Barack Obama a 'racist', Fox News Channel execs downplay comments

By Richard Huff
DAILY NEWS TV EDITOR
Updated Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 10:32 AM

Ghanbari/AP; Caulfield/WireImage Fox News pundit Glenn Beck (r.) called President Obama a 'racist' during a 'Fox and Friends' morning show on Tuesday.







Fox News Channel executives are distancing themselves from controversial ??? and popular ??? host Glenn Beck, who Tuesday morning branded President Obama a "racist."
The combustable Beck ignited a firestorm when, during a Tuesday morning appearance on FNC's freewheeling "Fox and Friends," he said the President's reaction to the Henry Louis Gates Jr. arrest situation in Cambridge, Mass., suggested a "deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."
To his credit, "Fox & Friends" co-host Brian Kilmeade ??? who recently had to apologize for comments he made about racial issues ??? immediately responded, saying that most of the faces people see of the Obama administration are white, such as spokesman Robert Gibbs or chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.
"I'm not saying he doesn't like white people. I'm saying he has a problem," Beck responded. "This guy is, I believe, a racist."
Beck did not address the point further in his own show on FNC Tuesday night.
A Fox representative said there was no comment from Beck.
However, Fox executives made it clear that although they encourage free speech, the "racist" remark was Beck's and his alone.


"During Fox & Friends" [Tuesday] morning, Glenn Beck expressed a personal opinion which represented his own views, not those of the Fox News Channel," Bill Shine, senior vice president of programming for Fox News said in a statement. "And as with all commentators in the cable news arena, he is given the freedom to express his opinions."


Reaction to Beck's comments on the Daily News Web site ranged from outright approval to dismissing them as coming from a conservative white commentator trying to drum up an audience.
"Glenn Beck is another example of showboating, mostly male, mostly conservative radio and TV commentators who don't speak from fact but rather from their well-considered opinion of how much what they say will rile up their fan base and make them more famous and make them more money," wrote one reader.


"Beck just exposed himself as a racist to the whole world," wrote another. "Half of President Obama's family is white. I hardly think he hates white people. It is clear that Beck is insecure with himself as a white man if all he sees is color in people and not just a person. Many people still need to grow up."


Beck's comments on Obama came out of a discussion another President might have reacted to when asked about the Gates case.
Gates, a renowned Harvard professor was arrested July 16 on disorderly-conduct charges by Cambridge police who had responded to his home after a report of a break-in in progress. Gates and the police disagree on what happened next. The charges were dropped. But the case took on an elevated level of scruitiny after the

President, on prime-time television, said the police acted "stupidly."
After realizing he had inflamed the discussion, Obama backtracked and then invited Gates and the arresting officer, Sgt. James Crowley, to the White House for a beer.



The Gates-Crowley incident ??? heightened by the Obama comment ??? has raised the discussion of racial relations in the United States to a larger level.
Gates, who said he hopes to use his experience as part of a study of racial profiling for a PBS documentary, said he was pleased the President wanted to use the incident to create a teachable moment.


"If my experience leads to the lessening of the occurrence of racial profiling, then I would find that enormously gratifying," Gates said in a statement posted at Home | The Root. "Because, in the end, this is not about me at all; it is about the creation of a society in which 'equal justice before law' is a lived reality."

 

[bio-chem]

WOW. lets make this worse and worse and keep it in the news for another week because it is such an important occurance

 

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I mentioned this already.....some people are going to say he is a racist because of his meddling into something he shouldn't have.

 

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Colin Powell on arrest of Prof. Henry Louis Gates: You don't argue with cops

BY Helen Kennedy
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Wednesday, July 29th 2009, 4:00 AM

Retired Gen. Colin Powell talks to Larry King on Tuesday.



Retired Gen. Colin Powell weighed in Tuesday on the controversial arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., chiding his friend for not cooperating with the cops.


"When you're faced with an officer trying to do his job and get to the bottom of something, this is not the time to get in an argument with him," Powell told CNN's "Larry King Live."



"I was taught that as a child. You don't argue with a police officer."
Gates flew off the handle July 16 when a cop investigating a reported break-in asked him to prove he lived in his own house.



"I think he should have reflected on whether or not this was the time to make that big a deal," Powell said.
But he also questioned why Gates, a frail 58-year-old who is one of the nation's most prominent black intellectuals, was handcuffed and hauled downtown after it was clear he hadn't done anything.



"I would have thought at that point some adult supervision would have stepped in and said, 'Okay, look, it is his house. Come on, let's not take this any further. Take the handcuffs off,'" Powell said.



Cambridge Police Sgt. James Crowley booked Gates for disorderly conduct, a charge that was dropped as the arrest became a national rumpus. President Obama hopes to smooth things over with some brewski diplomacy tomorrow at the White House.



Gates and Crowley will be hoisting cold ones with the President at 6 p.m. at Obama's picnic table on the South Lawn. Both may bring their families.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said it would be a "poignant" photo op proving people can discuss their differences. "There's no formal agenda other than cold beer," he said.



In other news, the Bronx-raised Powell offered a ringing endorsement of Mayor Bloomberg. "He is working for the whole city. So I think Mike Bloomberg should be given a third term," he said.
hkennedy@nydailynews.com

Read more: Colin Powell on arrest of Prof. Henry Louis Gates: You don't argue with cops
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This would also apply to every cop hating tough guy on Ironmagazine.

"I was taught that as a child. You don't argue with a police officer."

 

[bio-chem]

Man I like Powell. There are some things that he has done that im not a fan of, but for the most part i really like this guy. this guy should have been the first black president.

 

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I agree.

Man I like Powell. There are some things that he has done that im not a fan of, but for the most part i really like this guy. this guy should have been the first black president.

 

[lola1182]

 

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What? That me and Bio have agreed the past few posts?

I need to bathe.

 

[bio-chem]

What? That me and Bio have agreed the past few posts?

I need to bathe.

sinfully delicious.

 

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BOSTON -- A Boston police officer was placed on administrative leave after he allegedly used a racial slur when referring to Henry Louis Gates Jr.Watch Report

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Boston Globe​

In a mass e-mail, Officer Justin Barrett, 36, called Gates a "jungle monkey," according to a law enforcement source.Gates, a black Harvard scholar, was arrested at his home earlier this month on a disorderly conduct charge after he tried to budge open the door of his Cambridge home.Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis found out about the e-mail on Tuesday and immediately stripped Barrett of his gun and badge, officials said. The e-mail was first sent anonymously to the Boston Globe and then to local members of the National Guard, where he is a member.The e-mail was in response to a Globe article about Gates' arrest. In the e-mail, Barrett writes, "(Gates') first priority should be to get off the phone and comply with police, for if I was the officer he verbally assaulted like a ... jungle monkey, I would have sprayed him in the face with OC deserving of his belligerent non-compliance.""I just say that we want to rid our department of the cancer, and that is what we did -- rid the department of the cancer. All the police officers I know don't condone any of that," Boston Mayor Tom Menino said. "An individual preaching hate has no place in our society."Barrett is assigned to District B-3. He was placed on administrative leave pending a termination hearing.The officer has had a badge with the department for two years and received extensive training in racial profiling prevention while in the academy."People go through these courses and they pass them and you don't know what they are going to do in a situation," Menino said.

The July 16 arrest sparked a national debate about race relations in America and set the stage for a meeting between President Barack Obama, the arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley and Gates.The trio is set to meet at the White House on Thursday and discuss the incident over a beer.Earlier Wednesday, the woman who called 911 to report the possible break-in at Gates' home said she was vilified and called a racist after the incident and hopes the release of the police tapes "will help heal the community" as they have helped restore her reputation.Whalen told the 911 dispatcher that she saw the men trying to push open a front door."I don't know if they live there and they had a hard time with their key, but I noticed they had to use their shoulder to barge in, and they got in. I didn't notice if they had a key or not, because I couldn't see from my angle," Whalen said."Are they white, black or Hispanic?" the dispatcher said."There were two larger men. One looked kind of Hispanic, but I am not sure. The other one entered, and I did not see him at all," she said.Editor's Note: While we realize some readers may find the use of Justin Barrett's exact quote offensive, we felt it was important to the full understanding of the story to report it verbatim.

 

[Keylan]

Keylan
What changes? I didn't see any?

it seems to me the courts overturned their verdicts because of the riots and that set a precedent.

What's your point young man?
Your saying he deserved it? i never implied in any manner that mlk deserved to be assasinated.

Bottom line is that the looters were scum. looters are scum. getting rid of police brutality is just as important as getting rid of waterboarding

I can't stand to hear this shit anymore. Riots are good because they bring about social change? Are you fucking kidding me???

i'm not saying it's good to riot. there was a social problem that needed to be dealt with. good can come out of rioting. unfortunately that isn't a given and for the amount of devastation it causes sometimes it isn't worth it. if the riots caused our court systems to persecute officers who overstep the boundries of their authority, then yes the LA riots produced a positive outcome.

QUESTION: what do you do if you are being harassed/brutalized by a police officer?

 

[Keylan]

BOSTON -- A Boston police officer was placed on administrative leave after he allegedly used a racial slur when referring to Henry Louis Gates Jr.Watch Report

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Boston Globe​

In a mass e-mail, Officer Justin Barrett, 36, called Gates a "jungle monkey," according to a law enforcement source.Gates, a black Harvard scholar, was arrested at his home earlier this month on a disorderly conduct charge after he tried to budge open the door of his Cambridge home.Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis found out about the e-mail on Tuesday and immediately stripped Barrett of his gun and badge, officials said. The e-mail was first sent anonymously to the Boston Globe and then to local members of the National Guard, where he is a member.The e-mail was in response to a Globe article about Gates' arrest. In the e-mail, Barrett writes, "(Gates') first priority should be to get off the phone and comply with police, for if I was the officer he verbally assaulted like a ... jungle monkey, I would have sprayed him in the face with OC deserving of his belligerent non-compliance.""I just say that we want to rid our department of the cancer, and that is what we did -- rid the department of the cancer. All the police officers I know don't condone any of that," Boston Mayor Tom Menino said. "An individual preaching hate has no place in our society."Barrett is assigned to District B-3. He was placed on administrative leave pending a termination hearing.The officer has had a badge with the department for two years and received extensive training in racial profiling prevention while in the academy."People go through these courses and they pass them and you don't know what they are going to do in a situation," Menino said.

The July 16 arrest sparked a national debate about race relations in America and set the stage for a meeting between President Barack Obama, the arresting officer Sgt. James Crowley and Gates.The trio is set to meet at the White House on Thursday and discuss the incident over a beer.Earlier Wednesday, the woman who called 911 to report the possible break-in at Gates' home said she was vilified and called a racist after the incident and hopes the release of the police tapes "will help heal the community" as they have helped restore her reputation.Whalen told the 911 dispatcher that she saw the men trying to push open a front door."I don't know if they live there and they had a hard time with their key, but I noticed they had to use their shoulder to barge in, and they got in. I didn't notice if they had a key or not, because I couldn't see from my angle," Whalen said."Are they white, black or Hispanic?" the dispatcher said."There were two larger men. One looked kind of Hispanic, but I am not sure. The other one entered, and I did not see him at all," she said.Editor's Note: While we realize some readers may find the use of Justin Barrett's exact quote offensive, we felt it was important to the full understanding of the story to report it verbatim.

the good thing = he's fired.
the bad thing = it's really no surprise something like this happened.

how smart could he be to send that? comments like these are still heard everyday.

 

[Keylan]

Colin Powell on arrest of Prof. Henry Louis Gates: You don't argue with cops


"I was taught that as a child. You don't argue with a police officer."
Gates flew off the handle July 16 when a cop investigating a reported break-in asked him to prove he lived in his own house.
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Does this statement even deserve a response?

 

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QUESTION: what do you do if you are being harassed/brutalized by a police officer?

I wouldn't go to a store and loot it, nor would I go find an innocent person to hurt him.

I would go a higher chain of command or go to the local paper if it was really bad.
These lowlifes went after innocent people.

Question: As a kid when or if your parents punished you and you rebelled, did you burn your room or take a dump on your bed?

 

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the good thing = he's fired.
the bad thing = it's really no surprise something like this happened.

how smart could he be to send that? comments like these are still heard everyday.

True.

 

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Does this statement even deserve a response?

I am sure your response would be to take the cops gun and shoot him?

That's the road your taking I guess..

 

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Despite that investment and the boom of the 1990s, South Central remains one of the city's poorest neighborhoods. Unemployment remains well above 20 percent even after the boom of the 1990s.

What idiot would invest in that neighborhood?
They should have just napalmed the whole place.
The only way I would invest there is if they get rid of those douche bags.

"The wounds are in the process of healing," Murray said. "They have not healed, but there are isolated moments where you can note progress here on this hill."

Of course not, they screwed their own people.

 

[Keylan]

I am sure your response would be to take the cops gun and shoot him?

That's the road your taking I guess..

it that trustworthy telling on 'em? it just seems it would take a LOT for a cop to end up in jail. more than it would take for you to end up being sent there. and i think they know that. maybe it's that fraternal instinct. all i can say to that is some of these injuries cops recieve on the job from inmates are warranted. something about feeding the bears. j/k

the boston police force looks really good by investigating barrett. who knows what politics have come into play. hopefully it's a genuine gesture. bottom line is society needs police.

 

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. all i can say to that is some of these injuries cops recieve on the job from inmates are warranted. something about feeding the bears. j/k

I also don't care what abuse the common criminal recieves....well some criminals. Remember most are in there for commiting crimes against other innocent people.
Hmmm.....like rapists, muggers,
For some reason it seems like your against rules, authority and obedience.

 

[Burner02]

WOW. lets make this worse and worse and keep it in the news for another week because it is such an important occurance

on a positive note...we haven't heard anything more on the life-n-death of Michael Jackson in a week...

 

[bio-chem]

on a positive note...we haven't heard anything more on the life-n-death of Michael Jackson in a week...

hmmm. you do have a point.

 

[Arnold]

on a positive note...we haven't heard anything more on the life-n-death of Michael Jackson in a week...

Michael Jackson doctor, Conrad Murray, may lose Las Vegas home

By Rich Schapiro
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Drowning in debt, Michael Jackson's personal doctor could soon face foreclosure on his swanky Las Vegas home.

Dr. Conrad Murray has fallen behind more than $100,000 since his last payment in January and could lose the house by November, officials said.

Jackson was paying Murray $150,000 a month before the pop star died suddenly June 25 - but it apparently wasn't enough.

Murray is the target of a manslaughter probe. Law enforcement sources say he has admitted giving the pop icon the dangerous sedative propofol the day he died.

Federal drug agents raided Murray's $1.5 million Sin City home Tuesday and seized a computer hard drive and several cell phones. Investigators also searched his nearby office and swept through his Houston clinic last week.

Officials announced a delay yesterday in the release of autopsy results.

They were supposed to be made public this week, but the announcement was put off until next week. No explanation was given.

A longtime Jackson pal, comedian Dick Gregory, said he's fasting for 40 days or until the truth about the singer's death comes out.

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....dude...seriously?

 

[Keylan]

I also don't care what abuse the common criminal recieves....well some criminals. Remember most are in there for commiting crimes against other innocent people.
Hmmm.....like rapists, muggers,
For some reason it seems like your against rules, authority and obedience.

well i ain't toby if that's what you mean. if you'd been through some of the ordeals i've been through you'd most likely feel the same way.

im not sure the penal system in america is designed for rehabilitation as much as it is for recurrence. i'd love to be wrong there. too much cooperation can lead to undesired results for civilians when the decision is left with rookies or dolts. Add emotion to that and its a timebomb. why should you have to suffer when a cop makes a bad decision? it ain't like he's gonna by you flowers after.

 

[bio-chem]

well i ain't toby if that's what you mean. if you'd been through some of the ordeals i've been through you'd most likely feel the same way.

im not sure the penal system in america is designed for rehabilitation as much as it is for recurrence. i'd love to be wrong there. too much cooperation can lead to undesired results for civilians when the decision is left with rookies or dolts. Add emotion to that and its a timebomb. why should you have to suffer when a cop makes a bad decision? it ain't like he's gonna by you flowers after.

This is way too broad to even be helpful, if you want to ask a question give a scenario.

 

[Keylan]

...I would go a higher chain of command or go to the local paper if it was really bad.
wasn't the king video an attempt at going to the media? the cops still got off.

Question: As a kid when or if your parents punished you and you rebelled, did you burn your room or take a dump on your bed?

my folks would have left me in the room with that crap for like three days if i tried that.

some examples of regurgitated videos where police are handcuffing assailants. is this what our tax dollars are buying?
YouTube - Police take advantage of a Drunk Girl
YouTube - Police brutality caught on camera
YouTube - Man sues after police beating caught on tape
YouTube - 15 Year Old Girl Punched And Pepper Sprayed By Cop
YouTube - Man dangerously TASERED for refusing to sign ticket

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