P90x

[JuanMete0r]

I just had to comment this thread after reading all of the shit talking about the P90X. First off it fucking kicks your ass. IDC who you are. It changes your life, if you stick to it. That's no bullshit, and that's no fucking joke. And to the ones who say that you cannot get "stronger" or build mass off this program, you're just a silly wanker. Of course you have to change your workout, you have to do more weight and more reps. Common fucking sense right? Or so I thought until I stumbled onto this meat head forum full of idiot ass trainers who have never even attempted the program. So this goes out to those of you who are reading this forum and thinking of not doing the P90X because you want to build MASS. Do the program, gradually do more reps and more weight, up your protein intake, drink creatine and BRING IT!

Dumbass's.

 

[T_man]

I just had to comment this thread after reading all of the shit talking about the P90X. First off it fucking kicks your ass. IDC who you are. It changes your life, if you stick to it. That's no bullshit, and that's no fucking joke. And to the ones who say that you cannot get "stronger" or build mass off this program, you're just a silly wanker. Of course you have to change your workout, you have to do more weight and more reps. Common fucking sense right? Or so I thought until I stumbled onto this meat head forum full of idiot ass trainers who have never even attempted the program. So this goes out to those of you who are reading this forum and thinking of not doing the P90X because you want to build MASS. Do the program, gradually do more reps and more weight, up your protein intake, drink creatine and BRING IT!

Dumbass's.

 

[Built]

I just had to comment this thread after reading all of the shit talking about the P90X. First off it fucking kicks your ass. IDC who you are. It changes your life, if you stick to it. That's no bullshit, and that's no fucking joke. And to the ones who say that you cannot get "stronger" or build mass off this program, you're just a silly wanker. Of course you have to change your workout, you have to do more weight and more reps. Common fucking sense right? Or so I thought until I stumbled onto this meat head forum full of idiot ass trainers who have never even attempted the program. So this goes out to those of you who are reading this forum and thinking of not doing the P90X because you want to build MASS. Do the program, gradually do more reps and more weight, up your protein intake, drink creatine and BRING IT!

Dumbass's.

Pix please.

 

[Stewart14]

I just had to comment this thread after reading all of the shit talking about the P90X. First off it fucking kicks your ass. IDC who you are. It changes your life, if you stick to it. That's no bullshit, and that's no fucking joke. And to the ones who say that you cannot get "stronger" or build mass off this program, you're just a silly wanker. Of course you have to change your workout, you have to do more weight and more reps. Common fucking sense right? Or so I thought until I stumbled onto this meat head forum full of idiot ass trainers who have never even attempted the program. So this goes out to those of you who are reading this forum and thinking of not doing the P90X because you want to build MASS. Do the program, gradually do more reps and more weight, up your protein intake, drink creatine and BRING IT!

Dumbass's.

oh and the correct spelling would be "dumbasses" I guess p90x can't help with grammar.

 

[Merkaba]

I just had to comment this thread after reading all of the shit talking about the P90X. First off it fucking kicks your ass. IDC who you are. It changes your life, if you stick to it. That's no bullshit, and that's no fucking joke. And to the ones who say that you cannot get "stronger" or build mass off this program, you're just a silly wanker. Of course you have to change your workout, you have to do more weight and more reps. Common fucking sense right? Or so I thought until I stumbled onto this meat head forum full of idiot ass trainers who have never even attempted the program. So this goes out to those of you who are reading this forum and thinking of not doing the P90X because you want to build MASS. Do the program, gradually do more reps and more weight, up your protein intake, drink creatine and BRING IT!

Dumbass's.

Nice first post! Thanks for showing how P90 could possibly make you more stupid.
A Knowledgeable program isn't concerned with "kicking your ass". That shit went out in the 90's. Maybe the P-90's???

"up your protein intake, drink creatine and bring it"

I agree lets see some pics! And I guarantee you I can get similar results with a jump rope.

 

[P-funk]

Here is a recent article I wrote looking at Exercise vs. Working out and talking about some of the common trends (like p90x) in the fitness industry:

Exercising vs. Training - A Controversial Debate — Patrick Ward, MS CSCS LMT


patrick

 

[wingchunjohn]

Hi All,

Just joined the forum as I've just bought my wife the P90X dvd's (only cost $30) off amazon so I'm not that concerned with the price.

I think it will be great for my wife as she has trouble sticking to programs I've designed for her etc. A DVD that fully shows her what to do will be great.

I've even said in April 2010 I will do it too in order to get lean for the summer, although I am concerned about losing the mass I've got. I will change the program slightly.

For the record for the past 2 years I haven't lifted weights. I've been doing dynamic tension type exercises, pushups etc. since Jan 09 I've had a shoulder injury which meant I couldn't do any weights/pushups etc so have done almost 11 months of JUST dynamic tension - with great results. I'm now bigger than I've ever been and feel great.

I do plan to start weights again in Jan and will be bulking up a bit more until April/may - when I plan to do the P90X with my wife.

I'll let you all know of any results/experiences I have with the program.

I was quite put off by this thread I have to admit, but Vixx made a good argument. I agree with him that certain people on here are slightly biased and arrogant about it. I don't want to point the finger at anyone or stir up any shit as I'm new to the forum and would like to stay on here. It's wrong to abuse people/or a system they are doing - fair enough give an opinion, but to trash a product they haven't tried is just arrogant.

Anyway, I look forward to being a member of this forum and will be asking advice on lots.

- John

 

[soxmuscle]

Here is a recent article I wrote looking at Exercise vs. Working out and talking about some of the common trends (like p90x) in the fitness industry:

Exercising vs. Training - A Controversial Debate ??? Patrick Ward, MS CSCS LMT


patrick

Really good article.

 

[Merkaba]

Hi All,

Just joined the forum as I've just bought my wife the P90X dvd's (only cost $30) off amazon so I'm not that concerned with the price.

I think it will be great for my wife as she has trouble sticking to programs I've designed for her etc. A DVD that fully shows her what to do will be great.

I've even said in April 2010 I will do it too in order to get lean for the summer, although I am concerned about losing the mass I've got. I will change the program slightly.

For the record for the past 2 years I haven't lifted weights. I've been doing dynamic tension type exercises, pushups etc. since Jan 09 I've had a shoulder injury which meant I couldn't do any weights/pushups etc so have done almost 11 months of JUST dynamic tension - with great results. I'm now bigger than I've ever been and feel great.

I do plan to start weights again in Jan and will be bulking up a bit more until April/may - when I plan to do the P90X with my wife.

I'll let you all know of any results/experiences I have with the program.

I was quite put off by this thread I have to admit, but Vixx made a good argument. I agree with him that certain people on here are slightly biased and arrogant about it. I don't want to point the finger at anyone or stir up any shit as I'm new to the forum and would like to stay on here. It's wrong to abuse people/or a system they are doing - fair enough give an opinion, but to trash a product they haven't tried is just arrogant.

Anyway, I look forward to being a member of this forum and will be asking advice on lots.

- John

I've never tried eating dynamite or jumping off of a roof but I know enough about the makeup of dynamite and I know what gravity does. Thats how people can trash a system. If you want to do p90 x then do it! I wouldn't do it or recommend it if it was free. That's my opinion. Too much over the top and high risk shlt going on.

The problem is that most people don't know how the body works, how it gets lean, or builds muscles. They only know what joe the marketer and his mag says or what their friends tell them. I see awesome ripped guys in the gym daily. Would I do half the shlt I see them doing? No.

Like I said if I had it to sell and you bought it more power to me. As I said, too much unnecessary and high stress shit going on. Like if I saw someone rounded their back on deadlifts, but you're trying to give me advice on deadlifts. You're screwed in the eyes of those that know.

Its greatly marketed and I'm sure it "kicks your ass" as Juan said a few posts up. Thats great because people think that's how you get in shape and build muscle and burn fat and blah blah.

I and alot of other people know better.

Good luck and I hope you or your wife don't get injured.

 

[wingchunjohn]

Alright! I can't believe you're the moderator of this forum!! You're so rude and arrogant to people - No need for it mate!

Must be roid rage - Don't think for a minute other people believe you are natural! One look at your pics proves you're not!!!!

 

[Built]

wingchunjohn, settle down. I just read merkaba's post and he speaks the truth. I saw nothing rude or arrogant on there.

merkaba's 100% natural. I prepped him for his last contest - I should know. His physique is most obviously natural - there are tipoffs to an assisted physique that he does not have - in particular, his delts don't look spherical. He's got great genetics, and like many people who train well, he has found that the smarter he trained and the better he ate, the better his genetics became.

The programme you purchased your wife will "work" in the sense that it burns off calories and if she does not overeat to compensate, she will lose weight.

If she is VERY overweight, she will likely become injured from the plyometrics.

If she is very well conditioned and likes the feeling of training hard, she'll like this programme.

If she is very lean and looking to become leaner, she may find she loses too much muscle by dieting hard while training this way.

It all comes down to tailoring the approach to improve your chances of succeeding at reaching your particular goal.

 

[maxpro2]

It seems like there are a lot of posts in support of P90X that are very suspect in the sense that they are by all new members are basically straight sales pitches.

Now I am not necessarily saying that people who have a stake in P90X are "shilling"; however, it does seem very very suspect and worth looking into more, such as investigating IP addresses, looking for identical user names on other forums also promoting P90X, etc.

 

[Merkaba]

Alright! I can't believe you're the moderator of this forum!! You're so rude and arrogant to people - No need for it mate!

Must be roid rage - Don't think for a minute other people believe you are natural! One look at your pics proves you're not!!!!

EXACTLY! Hey Wing thanks alot. If you looked at those pics and thought I was on gear then that lets me know I was doing something right! That was my first show and I had probably another 5 lbs of water I needed to get off! I'm 33 and have been "working out" and training since I was in 7th grade.

Yep, Built helped me prep for that show. Geez man I really appreciate it! Thanks Seriously.

The only thing I'ver ever taken was adequate education.
I'll apologize for the harsh approach earlier. Maybe I was a little worked up from this thread. I'm sorry. And I hope you stick around.

Now go do some dam air squats.

 

[Merkaba]

It seems like there are a lot of posts in support of P90X that are very suspect in the sense that they are by all new members are basically straight sales pitches.

Now I am not necessarily saying that people who have a stake in P90X are "shilling"; however, it does seem very very suspect and worth looking into more, such as investigating IP addresses, looking for identical user names on other forums also promoting P90X, etc.

I've thought the same thing. I know alot of people may be googling the term and coming up with this thread in there results. Might be likely. But I wouldnt doubt it being more than that.

 

[wingchunjohn]

Merkaba - I apologise for abusing you on my last post - I just get annoyed on the net sometimes when I ask for advice etc and get people being smart etc and giving abuse. I'm not saying that's what you meant, I probably just took it the wrong way and snapped.

I'm sure it's the same for you getting idiots coming on here, making one post and then never seen online again etc etc.

As for the P90X thread, yes I googled it and this is one of the forums that came up.

My wife's started the program and is enjoying it. I doubt I'll do it fully, as after looking at it I think it'll burn more muscle off my body than what I'd like.

Also, since my shoulder injury I would like to take things more slowly (instead of jumping around etc).

Merkaba - You look great in your pics, and yes compared to some you do look on roids - but as you say, you've been working out most of your life and deserve to look like you do. Sorry for the roid comment!!

I'd like to stick around on this forum so I hope we can put this behind us and move forward and chat about training techniques, methods etc etc

All the best

John

 

[Karlp327]

Physics of P90X

I heard a wiseman state that he only states the Laws of Physics and not writes them. I have been off an off P90X for about two years and tell anyone who asks that it is great and I prefer to be in the midst of a round of 90 days of P90X than not.

Workout = progress towards a fit life. Each our bodies do respond differently to workouts but in general it is pretty much the same. You get out what you put in.

I am by no means the pinnacle of physical prowess. I am a regular guy who has a family and like to be fit. Life gets in the way because my family comes first. True Bodybuilding requires more commitment than I can consistently provide.

The very first info commercial that I saw stated plainly about muscle confusion. This is what I bought into. I always knew that I did hit a barrier when lifting. Yes, it is my lack of experience amongst purist in bodybuilding that limited me and lack of a trainer. I prefer to workout at home.

In performing 2 rounds back to back of P90X, I did get in the fittest shape I had been in for a long time. Despite babying a tweaky knee, this or that. I was fit. I sweat like crazy during the Yoga session. Believe me it took me a while to admit that did Yoga. I am fine with it and appreciate the well balanced approach that P90X takes.

One side note: I took several weeks going through the workouts with increasing the length of my particpation until I could complete a few completely before starting the clock for Round 1.

No one walks into a weight room and throws 350 on the bench and lifts it.

The thorough combinations of workouts that I never have to think about works great for me. I do not have even think what I am about to do or plan for it. I just need to block out time. I get up see what day of the week it is and run the routine first thing in the morning.

The combining of workouts worked for fitness and not bodybuilding. One would say you are a bodybuilder after a while but not to me. I am a fit athlete who at one time aspired to be more like a bodybuilder.

Last bit of advice for someone looking to get fit. I found P90X Find what you enjoy and then stick with it. In time we will all get to where we want to be if we stick to the plan. Make a plan.

 

[Merkaba]

Merkaba - I apologise for abusing you on my last post - I just get annoyed on the net sometimes when I ask for advice etc and get people being smart etc and giving abuse. I'm not saying that's what you meant, I probably just took it the wrong way and snapped.

I'm sure it's the same for you getting idiots coming on here, making one post and then never seen online again etc etc.

As for the P90X thread, yes I googled it and this is one of the forums that came up.

My wife's started the program and is enjoying it. I doubt I'll do it fully, as after looking at it I think it'll burn more muscle off my body than what I'd like.

Also, since my shoulder injury I would like to take things more slowly (instead of jumping around etc).

Merkaba - You look great in your pics, and yes compared to some you do look on roids - but as you say, you've been working out most of your life and deserve to look like you do. Sorry for the roid comment!!

I'd like to stick around on this forum so I hope we can put this behind us and move forward and chat about training techniques, methods etc etc

All the best

John

 

[Kimora]

I know. The thing is that people in general can't do the proper research like many of us "gym heads"....so they get taken advantage of. I mean, its a business idea. Packaging looks good, you make some commercials and be sure you say the ass-lounge "system" helps you lose inches because that system is not just the ass lounge, but also the book that says watch what you eat and get some cardio in. What, so I can't cut inches by rocking in a goddam ab hammock for 5 minutes a day?

Fuck nuts....to have the audacity to make a piece of equipment with the word "lounge" in it. To appeal to the laziness of people. The idea of working out while still sitting on your lazy ass. Genius! Brilliant!


I think its some generally overhyped sensationalized shit. Plenty of that stuff I'd never tell anyone to do. However it will kick your ass if you just don't care about the risk for injury and are just so motherfucking bad that you like trying to kill yourself so you can brag to your friends that you do crossfit. Do it. You'll get in shape, at the most if youre lucky. I'd never tell my client to do air squats. Sorry. At least not the speed I see them always being done. But that's just me. I wouldn't suggest a few of things that others do, but thats life and opinion. I'm not a dam fan of snatching and jerking anything overhead. Just too dam risky to me, and for what?

Controlling intensity is the key to a good workout. One shouldn't need a bought system for that. But hey if you just wanna pay money to have someone give you a way of increasing intensity then that's your or whoever's prerogative.

K man you seem like a big ole meathead to me.I wrestled in high school boxed a little after,and currently train in BJJ.We do crossfit workouts about 4 nights a week,the fighters do it 5 to 6 depending on how close the fight is.Sure i could go to the gym and pump iron like a madman and get all diesel but what does it do?It doesn't build explosiveness or muscle flexibility,doesn't work the fast twitch muscles with are crucial in punching and explosive takedowns.
Im not all scientific on the shit but i know if your big musclebound butt came in our gym,you would get manhandled by guys half your size.Cause all your doin is putting on large mass which weighs you down and has no real effectivness in overall fitness other than to look like a genetic freak.

 

[Merkaba]

K man you seem like a big ole meathead to me.I wrestled in high school boxed a little after,and currently train in BJJ.We do crossfit workouts about 4 nights a week,the fighters do it 5 to 6 depending on how close the fight is.Sure i could go to the gym and pump iron like a madman and get all diesel but what does it do?It doesn't build explosiveness or muscle flexibility,doesn't work the fast twitch muscles with are crucial in punching and explosive takedowns.
Im not all scientific on the shit but i know if your big musclebound butt came in our gym,you would get manhandled by guys half your size.Cause all your doin is putting on large mass which weighs you down and has no real effectivness in overall fitness other than to look like a genetic freak.

Hello and welcome to the board Kimora....


Frankly I could care less about what you think or the deep ignorance that you display. Building explosiveness and or flexibility is a matter of a specific routine catered to that goal. I don't train to just put on weight or size and never have implied such for myself or for anyone. I'm doing hatha yoga tonight!

You're just pissed that someone disagrees with you and your ilk. And where did I say anything about "pumping iron" or doing it like a madman for that matter? The fact of the matter is that most people simply are not current on what matters and what is safe. Again you can do crossfit and p90 and go bobsleddin' 10 times a week for all I care dude. Go ahead! Whoever decided to do cross fit 4 or 5 times a week well more power to them. Ask some of the champions if they would have time to do that shit, if they do I'll eat my hat! You got any champions in that gym? And further more how do you know I haven't been training in muay thai and aikido since I was 8 and could put you in a "Kimora" from the bottom guard position and tap your ass out in 2 minutes and manhandle half of your gym? I weigh 255 now and will be 220 in 5 months so I'm not about getting "diesel" or "pumping iron" I'm about setting goals and acheiving them in the safest and most efficient manner I know how. If you don't know what you're talking about around here you will just get embarrassed and probably more pissed off. I don't try to throw my weight around and make points based on some martial arts gym or anything I do. I base it on facts of what work and what doesn't. Go play wii something. I'm glad you joined us to post your opinion. Now stick around and back it up!

 

[gtbmed]

K man you seem like a big ole meathead to me.I wrestled in high school boxed a little after,and currently train in BJJ.We do crossfit workouts about 4 nights a week,the fighters do it 5 to 6 depending on how close the fight is.Sure i could go to the gym and pump iron like a madman and get all diesel but what does it do?It doesn't build explosiveness or muscle flexibility,doesn't work the fast twitch muscles with are crucial in punching and explosive takedowns.
Im not all scientific on the shit but i know if your big musclebound butt came in our gym,you would get manhandled by guys half your size.Cause all your doin is putting on large mass which weighs you down and has no real effectivness in overall fitness other than to look like a genetic freak.

A lot of things crossfit does don't build explosiveness or muscle flexibility either.

 

[soxmuscle]

Kimora is a douche

 

[Dale Mabry]

ALL of things crossfit does don't build explosiveness or muscle flexibility either.

Correction.

 

[MCx2]

Here is a recent article I wrote looking at Exercise vs. Working out and talking about some of the common trends (like p90x) in the fitness industry:

Exercising vs. Training - A Controversial Debate ??? Patrick Ward, MS CSCS LMT


patrick

This link isn't working for me.

 

[tucker01]

This link isn't working for me.

I think there site is down right now.

 

[gtbmed]

Correction.

Well, they do things like Oly lifts that definitely build power and flexibility, but they don't do them in a consistent or directed way so as to actually build anything, so I guess you're right.

 

[PainandGain]

K man you seem like a big ole meathead to me.I wrestled in high school boxed a little after,and currently train in BJJ.We do crossfit workouts about 4 nights a week,the fighters do it 5 to 6 depending on how close the fight is.Sure i could go to the gym and pump iron like a madman and get all diesel but what does it do?It doesn't build explosiveness or muscle flexibility,doesn't work the fast twitch muscles with are crucial in punching and explosive takedowns.
Im not all scientific on the shit but i know if your big musclebound butt came in our gym,you would get manhandled by guys half your size.Cause all your doin is putting on large mass which weighs you down and has no real effectivness in overall fitness other than to look like a genetic freak.

What does all that matter if his only goal was to build mass in the first place??

 

[Kimora]

You again

I've never tried eating dynamite or jumping off of a roof but I know enough about the makeup of dynamite and I know what gravity does. Thats how people can trash a system. If you want to do p90 x then do it! I wouldn't do it or recommend it if it was free. That's my opinion. Too much over the top and high risk shlt going on.

The problem is that most people don't know how the body works, how it gets lean, or builds muscles. They only know what joe the marketer and his mag says or what their friends tell them. I see awesome ripped guys in the gym daily. Would I do half the shlt I see them doing? No.

Like I said if I had it to sell and you bought it more power to me. As I said, too much unnecessary and high stress shit going on. Like if I saw someone rounded their back on deadlifts, but you're trying to give me advice on deadlifts. You're screwed in the eyes of those that know.

Its greatly marketed and I'm sure it "kicks your ass" as Juan said a few posts up. Thats great because people think that's how you get in shape and build muscle and burn fat and blah blah.

I and alot of other people know better.

Good luck and I hope you or your wife don't get injured.

What your really sayin is"im too big and ofey to do anything but lift weights while watching myself in the mirror'.The reason you downplay this is because your not able to actually do it yourself.Anybody can pump out heavy weight eat like a horse and get bigger.Total body fitness is another thing in itself.As i think i have stated on other post where you downplay something you have never done nor can do,hey awipe did you know most MMA fighters use plyometrics to build strength and explosivness?Nope thats right their not infront of a mirror grunting and whacking off to themselves and doin nothing more than building bigger more useless muscle mass.They are actually becoming leaner stronger faster and healthier than some big oath who is prob on roids ever could hope for.And if you think just lifting weights makes you tough i would love for you to google the countless vids of muscle bound retards getting battered sensless by trained fighters half their size(fighters who use the shit you downplay to become stronger).

 

[Kimora]

No

What does all that matter if his only goal was to build mass in the first place??

Um because he is always in here downing people who have a diff type of training than him.Trying to force his meatheadedness on others who could give a care less how much he can lift and how small his package is in those gay spandex pants.

 

[Kimora]

Lol

Hello and welcome to the board Kimora....


Frankly I could care less about what you think or the deep ignorance that you display. Building explosiveness and or flexibility is a matter of a specific routine catered to that goal. I don't train to just put on weight or size and never have implied such for myself or for anyone. I'm doing hatha yoga tonight!

You're just pissed that someone disagrees with you and your ilk. And where did I say anything about "pumping iron" or doing it like a madman for that matter? The fact of the matter is that most people simply are not current on what matters and what is safe. Again you can do crossfit and p90 and go bobsleddin' 10 times a week for all I care dude. Go ahead! Whoever decided to do cross fit 4 or 5 times a week well more power to them. Ask some of the champions if they would have time to do that shit, if they do I'll eat my hat! You got any champions in that gym? And further more how do you know I haven't been training in muay thai and aikido since I was 8 and could put you in a "Kimora" from the bottom guard position and tap your ass out in 2 minutes and manhandle half of your gym? I weigh 255 now and will be 220 in 5 months so I'm not about getting "diesel" or "pumping iron" I'm about setting goals and acheiving them in the safest and most efficient manner I know how. If you don't know what you're talking about around here you will just get embarrassed and probably more pissed off. I don't try to throw my weight around and make points based on some martial arts gym or anything I do. I base it on facts of what work and what doesn't. Go play wii something. I'm glad you joined us to post your opinion. Now stick around and back it up!

Aikido is that gay stuff steven segal takes get real.There is no kimora in aikido also no ground work either it's all about control and staying in an upright position(i took it for years bud don't bs me)I have been in BJJ for years and i doubt you could tap me or anybody else out at my gym.Hybrid Academy of Martial arts in Virginia Beach VA,if you would like to come get your ass handed to ya.LOL what a joke man you think you can beat people who have trained to fight for most of there lives taking a few muay thai and aikido classes?You may have all these meathead dbags on this forum hooked with your bs but im just laughin.You guys laugh at me for having diff views of what works in the gym,yet everytime i see someone ask a simple question about p90x or something you don't agree on you come in with some smartass comment.Your busted dude keep being mister bodybuilding.com badman.Im just gonna keep goin to my gym and laughin at losers like you who think because they can bench a certain amount they can beat trained fighters and know everything about health and fitness.

 

[Kimora]

So..

I will not post again,your just gonna come back with some i weight blah blah i did muay thai i could tapout a bear blah blah.Your full of shit bro.If you really wanna get your ass handed to ya come to Hybrid Academy of Martial Arts in Virginia Beach VA.Coah buck welcomes big meathead tough guys who need a good asswhoppin.Your prob gonna comback with some 2 page post about how much you can bench and stuff but im outta here.Please please come get manhandled and then post a vid on this site so everybody can laugh.Brandon Vera used to train with coach buck back whenhe was at linx i bet you could tap him out also amirtire?