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America Is Messed Up.!!!!!

I dont think I've seen more cops in other countries then I've seen in america. I've been to colombia, peru, chile, argentina, puerto rico. All third world countries but a lot more peacefull and way less cops (for exception of Colombia). What I dont get from America is all the bs feed through the media to the youth especially with hip-hop music. From making selling dope "kool" , to slapping your "hoes", killing gangmembers, Killing cops. etc etc. all this is feed to the youth through this "artists" who are controlled by the fucking government and then they expect kids in america to grow up peaceful? american TV is a big circus if you ask me, and I found out once I got out of the usa for a whole year. Take some time and visit other countries and your eyes will open.
 
A country is a piece of dirt with imagionary lines drawn across it. I don't see how loving your fellow human, as long as he lives on your so called piece of dirt makes since.

I have no more in common with some old starving fellow down the street, than some busted up kid in Haiti.

I would as soon give money to the Haiti people as I would an American. I guess that makes me a bad patriot and American.

Ninja Edit: When I think about it, I haven't given money to the poor here or to the haiti people. Last year, I gave money to smallcanbebig.org and NPR.

yes and I don't mean to pull my Bible out on you guys/girls, but regardless of there location in relations to yourself, you should be willing to give the same amount of effort to save the person next to you as the person 100,000 miles away. You can't only worry about someone because of there place of birth? God made each man equally, He gave his life for each of us, we are all here for the purpose of Worshipping Him. Our daily goal is supposed to be live each breath for our Father. This is one reason I chose the Marine Corps. over the National Guard. Flame if you'd like, sorry to offend other religions ,but from this is my point of view.
 
I dont think I've seen more cops in other countries then I've seen in america. I've been to colombia, peru, chile, argentina, puerto rico. All third world countries but a lot more peacefull and way less cops (for exception of Colombia). What I dont get from America is all the bs feed through the media to the youth especially with hip-hop music. From making selling dope "kool" , to slapping your "hoes", killing gangmembers, Killing cops. etc etc. all this is feed to the youth through this "artists" who are controlled by the fucking government and then they expect kids in america to grow up peaceful? american TV is a big circus if you ask me, and I found out once I got out of the usa for a whole year. Take some time and visit other countries and your eyes will open.

This is another issue I think is Bs. Just because someone is singing about drugs ,and some people hear it to use them just means that person is gullible, weak minded, persuaded easily.. Why can't people get crunk over a Church Hymn.. Why can't someone sit in church, hear the message of God, and go out and preach it to his friends. I'm not a highly religious person ,but I know what the Good Book says to do and not to do. :paddle:
 
I dont think I've seen more cops in other countries then I've seen in america. I've been to colombia, peru, chile, argentina, puerto rico. All third world countries but a lot more peacefull and way less cops (for exception of Colombia). What I dont get from America is all the bs feed through the media to the youth especially with hip-hop music. From making selling dope "kool" , to slapping your "hoes", killing gangmembers, Killing cops. etc etc. all this is feed to the youth through this "artists" who are controlled by the fucking government and then they expect kids in america to grow up peaceful? american TV is a big circus if you ask me, and I found out once I got out of the usa for a whole year. Take some time and visit other countries and your eyes will open.


How in hell are rappers controlled by the government? Also, you don't understand what police state means.

Americans are manipulated by debt, money, and misinformation. Citizens of police states are controlled by military force.
 
How in hell are rappers controlled by the government? Also, you don't understand what police state means.

Americans are manipulated by debt, money, and misinformation. Citizens of police states are controlled by military force.
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BTW, you forgot American's being manipulated by distraction...but I'll take that over not having free speech or freedom of religion any day.
 
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BTW, you forgot American's being manipulated by distraction...but I'll take that over not having free speech or freedom of religion any day.

Distractions its just as bad as not having freedom of religion or speech if not worse, distraction brings misleading, misleading will bring lower moral values in to easy manipulated humans then the crime rate goes up. I have nothing against America, its just all the distractions and bullshit that is transmitted through out the media feeding all the american children nationwide. 9/11 should say enough about american media, its all bs.
 
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How in hell are rappers controlled by the government? Also, you don't understand what police state means.

Americans are manipulated by debt, money, and misinformation. Citizens of police states are controlled by military force.

I meant to say USA its full of cops, they are everywhere and its crime rate its still high among industrialized nations. Martial law its a rumor for america, only a rumor for now. Another disaster like 911 and people start rebelling and I think its pretty much real. About the rappers comment please think with a open mind, you think artists have a say on what they do or the image they portray? its all controlled and manipulated to bring children a destructive and low moral culture. If you cant see it then sorry. Just like you think drug abuse is "cool" and normal to talk about I think the complete opposite, I believe you (and many kids) are influenced by this form of culture that was brought into you either by rock or any other form of entertainment that glorified drug use. I personally think damaging my body with with drugs its uncool, unlike most highschool kids this days in america. I agree with the american being manipulated by debt, money and misinformation and basically american has its biggest weapon to misinform people which is through the media.
 
i dont think hip hop even begins to chip away at what the issue is... hip hop/rap has been used as a scapegoat. people are taught whats right and whats wrong at a very young age so that falls on the parents. ive listened to hip hop for 30 years and ive never called a woman out of her name, sold crack, popped x or any of the non sense they talk about. my children who are grown now listened to hip hop and their good kids and productive citizens. to my knowledge none of them have done any of that non sense either. alot of these artist are "studio gangtas" (actors).. parents have to talk to their children and let em know whats real and whats bullshit!! alot of these kids do stupid things because no one has explained the consequences for their actions. i can bet a pay check or two that many crimes have been comitted by people that dont listen to hip hop. i watch tv sitcoms of high school kids being sexually active and its glorified.. doesnt talk about the consequences.. maybe we should talk about "entertainment" as being the issue rather that one genre of music?

we havnt even started on the things that are really impacting this country. the dollar bill will mean nothing soon. banking is out of control and the federal reserve is a sick joke... the constitution is being destroyed right before our eyes! drugs are out of control!! how do they cross the borders with so much ease but humans are getting killed for crossing our borders?

theres not enuff space or time to talk about all this crap screwing up OUR country! good comments though... i do see everyones perspective..
 
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I meant to say USA its full of cops, they are everywhere and its crime rate its still high among industrialized nations.

Have you tried to find out why?
 
well when 25% of them fill our prisons well :coffee::coffee:
 
I meant to say USA its full of cops, they are everywhere and its crime rate its still high among industrialized nations. Martial law its a rumor for america, only a rumor for now. Another disaster like 911 and people start rebelling and I think its pretty much real. About the rappers comment please think with a open mind, you think artists have a say on what they do or the image they portray? its all controlled and manipulated to bring children a destructive and low moral culture. If you cant see it then sorry. Just like you think drug abuse is "cool" and normal to talk about I think the complete opposite, I believe you (and many kids) are influenced by this form of culture that was brought into you either by rock or any other form of entertainment that glorified drug use. I personally think damaging my body with with drugs its uncool, unlike most highschool kids this days in america. I agree with the american being manipulated by debt, money and misinformation and basically american has its biggest weapon to misinform people which is through the media.

You are pulling that shit so far out of your ass, it has undigested food on it.

First off, art is a reflection of the culture. Ghetto thug music is a depiction of the ghetto life in which those people grew up in. Rock is a deception of inner turmoil and dealing with chaos in ourselves and the outside world. Art is inspired by life, not the other way around. There is nothing to be open minded about. It is a fact of human nature.

Add to that a million "niggers" all trying to become rich and famous rappers because they have no education or prospects in life due to the poverty they grew up in, and lack of solid role models. I don't blame them or judge them, it is a by product of society, and nothing more.

The "evil rich white" man isn't promoting destructive music to keep poor people down. The rich evil white man doesn't give a flying fuck about poor people and their music. They only care about staying rich, and that is done by networking with other rich people to manipulate markets for maximum gains.

Don't fucking presume to know anything about me and my drug use. I've got 15 years of experience in that department, and I'm only 27. My reasoning for eating a heroic dose of mushrooms and xanax and laying in the middle of the living room floor naked for 8 hours has diddly shit to do with music or the government and everything to do with self medication and the expansion of my own perception of the universe. For me, there aren't very many activities that drugs don't enhance at the cost of a few brain cells and maybe a decade of my potential life span.


Read some books and be a student life. Pay attention to the world. Stop making up total horseshit to satisfy your preconceived notions.
 
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My reasoning for eating a heroic dose of mushrooms and xanax and laying in the middle of the living room floor naked for 8 hours

.......TMI dude.


TMI.
 
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Distractions its just as bad as not having freedom of religion or speech if not worse, distraction brings misleading, misleading will bring lower moral values in to easy manipulated humans then the crime rate goes up. I have nothing against America, its just all the distractions and bullshit that is transmitted through out the media feeding all the american children nationwide. 9/11 should say enough about american media, its all bs.


yea, but we have to freedom to tune into other news sources on TV, print, or the internet...you can't say the same for many countries
 
You are pulling that shit so far out of your ass, it has undigested food on it.

First off, art is a reflection of the culture. Ghetto thug music is a depiction of the ghetto life in which those people grew up in. Rock is a deception of inner turmoil and dealing with chaos in ourselves and the outside world. Art is inspired by life, not the other way around. There is nothing to be open minded about. It is a fact of human nature.


Add to that a million "niggers" all trying to become rich and famous rappers because they have no education or prospects in life due to the poverty they grew up in, and lack of solid role models. I don't blame them or judge them, it is a by product of society, and nothing more.

You mean to tell me that is a coincidence that hip-hop with good messege never goes mainstream? you mean to tell me that all rappers that change their way around and started talking positive died by natural causes? all this negative messege is put out there for a reason, and young naive people with no direction buy into it. Could be a conspiracy for you, but its a reality for me, I lived through this phony misleading culture called hip-hop in the states.

The "evil rich white" man isn't promoting destructive music to keep poor people down. The rich evil white man doesn't give a flying fuck about poor people and their music. They only care about staying rich, and that is done by networking with other rich people to manipulate markets for maximum gains.

Dumming down the population is a goal of the United States in my opinion, what better customer then a misled confused one. he will buy anthing in sight.

Don't fucking presume to know anything about me and my drug use. I've got 15 years of experience in that department, and I'm only 27. My reasoning for eating a heroic dose of mushrooms and xanax and laying in the middle of the living room floor naked for 8 hours has diddly shit to do with music or the government and everything to do with self medication and the expansion of my own perception of the universe. For me, there aren't very many activities that drugs don't enhance at the cost of a few brain cells and maybe a decade of my potential life span.

This wasnt meant for you to take it personal, I know nothing about you. It was just a example I chose to use.....actually your a person that I highly respect here in IM because you dont care what people think, If you feel you are correct you will confront anyone with a solid intelligent conversation (well sometimes when you dont blow up :) ). I was just trying to make a example and if you deny that you had no influence from the media glorifying the use of drugs through out entertainment Ill take your word but believe that there is a high percentage of kids with or without parents that fell for the trap. I had many friends that were addicts and only reason I kept off drugs is because of the gym.

Read some books and be a student life. Pay attention to the world. Stop making up total horseshit to satisfy your preconceived notions.


Agreed and Im starting to read more. I feel I was mislead in my teens by friends and tv throught this fake hip hop culture (and of course not having a father figure at home had a lot to do with it also). shit reading in school is seen uncool in the states and now I see that is from reading where you grow as a person. I put all the material and superficial distractions aside and im ready to grow as a person intellectually, it just took sometime for me to realize that life is not all about just fucking a good looking girl and getting drunk at parties because i was mislead by a wrong lifestyle. Just like you give me advise, I advise you to travel and get out of the states for sometime, you will have a different view of the world and the united states in general.
 
i dont think hip hop even begins to chip away at what the issue is... hip hop/rap has been used as a scapegoat. people are taught whats right and whats wrong at a very young age so that falls on the parents. ive listened to hip hop for 30 years and ive never called a woman out of her name, sold crack, popped x or any of the non sense they talk about. my children who are grown now listened to hip hop and their good kids and productive citizens. to my knowledge none of them have done any of that non sense either. alot of these artist are "studio gangtas" (actors).. parents have to talk to their children and let em know whats real and whats bullshit!! alot of these kids do stupid things because no one has explained the consequences for their actions. i can bet a pay check or two that many crimes have been comitted by people that dont listen to hip hop. i watch tv sitcoms of high school kids being sexually active and its glorified.. doesnt talk about the consequences.. maybe we should talk about "entertainment" as being the issue rather that one genre of music?

we havnt even started on the things that are really impacting this country. the dollar bill will mean nothing soon. banking is out of control and the federal reserve is a sick joke... the constitution is being destroyed right before our eyes! drugs are out of control!! how do they cross the borders with so much ease but humans are getting killed for crossing our borders?

theres not enuff space or time to talk about all this crap screwing up OUR country! good comments though... i do see everyones perspective..


I agree with everything you've said. The percentage of single parents in the United States is one of the highest if not the highest around the world, and now with the crisis the country is going through is obvious mommy or daddy spend less time with their kids and more time working. Its our responsibility as parents to educate children in general, not only our own into what is right and wrong. real or fiction and guide them through the right path.
 
Agreed and Im starting to read more. I feel I was mislead in my teens by friends and tv throught this fake hip hop culture (and of course not having a father figure at home had a lot to do with it also). shit reading in school is seen uncool in the states and now I see that is from reading where you grow as a person. I put all the material and superficial distractions aside and im ready to grow as a person intellectually, it just took sometime for me to realize that life is not all about just fucking a good looking girl and getting drunk at parties because i was mislead by a wrong lifestyle. Just like you give me advise, I advise you to travel and get out of the states for sometime, you will have a different view of the world and the united states in general.


Fuck yeah you were mislead, and so was I. I wouldn't say it has so much to do with having a father. My dad gave me a specific set of tools tailored to becoming successful and that was it. My dad was an abusive drunk who made sure that I knew that I didn't live up to his expectations, and I never will. The man was a fucking machine. The dying breed of men who could endure any amount of pain at the cost of their happiness for the sake their own pride.

As far as traveling, my life goal is to make enough money to retire in Brazil. I want to get away from the states for a while. Not that I don't like the US, but I just want to see some other shit.
 
yes, why is it people neglect to see the needy here, yet we are vocal about helping strangers in another country? I'd have to agree with you on that one. You don't see france or germany trying to rule the world...just the americans. And if we can't convince a country or a person to do and be what we want, we declare them EVIL.

I had a little legal problem and found out what rights we have here...Since the patriot act, we have no rights..The govt has carte blanche in the name of safety and any MORON that believes otherwise: I wish I could put you in a hypothetical situation so you could experience the helplessness and the lack of freedom I experienced. Coming from a conservative family, a school teacher mother, and a middle class neighborhood, my family thought I must be "doing something wrong" to be successful, and I heard more than once "If you're innocent it will all work out." lol...bullshit. What my lawyer said was "We haven't followed the constitution for years (since the patriot act) & you better make a deal before you wind up with nothing." My lawyer actually said that and I lived it, so any moron with or without an education that feels they have rights and they could never be hurt if they are innocent needs to wake up. I've lost more than my entire family will make combined..and it was an unfair loss..When someone says "either you take the deal(ultimatum) or we put you in front of a hangman's judge and threaten you with 37 years in prison..." Its a no brainer. I gave it all up and I will never forget those that knowingly took what was not theirs to take. This world is an ugly place and I only hope I am not bittered by such experiences, and I can treat those scumbags who would hurt me with a fair hand if I was ever given the chance.
Signed,
Looking for a country with freedom...any ideas?

America IS weak and the moral and intellectual integrity of our people is dwindling. Everyone wants to be taken care of and get a free ride. Hell, I think I'm going to ask someone how I can get paid to have a baby...lol...I overheard this black lady with 3 kids already planning on getting pregnant asap to have her 4th...Why would she get paid and not me? hmmmm
 
Greece. Rome. Egypt. Babylonia. Persia. The Mayans, maybe even Atlantis.

If some of these civilizations had left behind more clues as to why they failed, would we have learned?
 
yes, why is it people neglect to see the needy here, yet we are vocal about helping strangers in another country? I'd have to agree with you on that one. You don't see france or germany trying to rule the world...just the americans.

Currently, neither have the capacity to "rule" the world...so its futile to try, but look back fifty years and you add Germany to list...look back 100 years and you can find France trying to conquer to the world too.

And if we can't convince a country or a person to do and be what we want, we declare them EVIL.

I had a little legal problem and found out what rights we have here...Since the patriot act, we have no rights..The govt has carte blanche in the name of safety and any MORON that believes otherwise: I wish I could put you in a hypothetical situation so you could experience the helplessness and the lack of freedom I experienced. Coming from a conservative family, a school teacher mother, and a middle class neighborhood, my family thought I must be "doing something wrong" to be successful, and I heard more than once "If you're innocent it will all work out." lol...bullshit. What my lawyer said was "We haven't followed the constitution for years (since the patriot act) & you better make a deal before you wind up with nothing." My lawyer actually said that and I lived it, so any moron with or without an education that feels they have rights and they could never be hurt if they are innocent needs to wake up. I've lost more than my entire family will make combined..and it was an unfair loss..When someone says "either you take the deal(ultimatum) or we put you in front of a hangman's judge and threaten you with 37 years in prison..." Its a no brainer. I gave it all up and I will never forget those that knowingly took what was not theirs to take. This world is an ugly place and I only hope I am not bittered by such experiences, and I can treat those scumbags who would hurt me with a fair hand if I was ever given the chance.
Signed,
Looking for a country with freedom...any ideas?

Not sure on the intimacies of your case (although I'm interest) but the Patriot Act can be a scary piece of legislation...can't say I'm a fan of it. I understand why its their, but not entirely sure if its benefit is worth the cost

America IS weak and the moral and intellectual integrity of our people is dwindling. Everyone wants to be taken care of and get a free ride. Hell, I think I'm going to ask someone how I can get paid to have a baby...lol...I overheard this black lady with 3 kids already planning on getting pregnant asap to have her 4th...Why would she get paid and not me? hmmmm

I don't know if I would call our country weak...its certainly is stronger than any other country in the world (varying degrees of course when comparing). I ofter her friends complaining about free loaders on the system similar to the story you wrote above. Bottom line though, you don't want to get "paid" like the lady in your example...living off WICs and taking welfare, subsidized housing etc is not a high quality of life. If you want to free load, be prepared to live the hood and all the crumby stuff that accompanies it.
 
It's freedom roast goddam it!



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plenty of notBigs around here got their titties in a twist

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Greece. Rome. Egypt. Babylonia. Persia. The Mayans, maybe even Atlantis.

If some of these civilizations had left behind more clues as to why they failed, would we have learned?
All the civilizations you speak of left behind very informative descriptions as to what happened to them. well not atlantis of course. They were all conquered by other civilizations with different beliefs that they believed to be superior. HMMMM.... sounds like some country I've heard of
 
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