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Thanks for sharing, great pictures, very impressive.
Would love to see pictures of Built and others who are experts on this forum, it is inspirational. I mean you can buy magazines and look at the pictures of the follks in them but it is different when you are looking at the pictures of those you can actually ask a question and learn from.
This forum is truly awesome, I am glad I found it.
This forum is truly awesome, I am glad I found it.
Me a few years ago, age forty two, 14% bodyfat, confirmed by DEXA.
(Recall I was a fat jogger for most of my twenties and almost all of my thirties):
Amazing obilques and abs, I would love to have a mid section in that good of a condition. Will I ever get it! I can only hope and diet!
Thanks - I was a little surprised myself, although my ass never did lean out, even then.
I had lost forty pounds at this point, over about four years. I'm cautiously optimistic I gained about 10 lbs of lean over this time, and dropping fifty pounds of fat leaves the skin of an over-forty woman a little loose. Damned leg fat.
The abs - I do so little ab work, although they sure showed up when I leaned out. I do a little weighted ab work while bulking, but I really think sprinting and chinups did the rest.
I had lost forty pounds at this point, over about four years. I'm cautiously optimistic I gained about 10 lbs of lean over this time, and dropping fifty pounds of fat leaves the skin of an over-forty woman a little loose. Damned leg fat.
The abs - I do so little ab work, although they sure showed up when I leaned out. I do a little weighted ab work while bulking, but I really think sprinting and chinups did the rest.
Are you still in this condition? Are you bigger muscle wise? I want to know if I can maintain my results and continue to look good in my later 40s and then into my 50s and 60s. I look at recent pictures of Arnold and his body now looks like shit!
I'll be forty seven in a few weeks, and I have gained six or seven pounds of lean mass since that shot was taken.
I am currently just under 20% bodyfat, and cutting.
I think I look better now than I did the last time I was at 20% bodyfat, and I'll post up pix at the end of cut later this summer.
My squat has increased since that shot was taken, as has my bench and my power clean.
I am currently just under 20% bodyfat, and cutting.
I think I look better now than I did the last time I was at 20% bodyfat, and I'll post up pix at the end of cut later this summer.
My squat has increased since that shot was taken, as has my bench and my power clean.
That is very encouraging, makes me want to pump more iron. I want to reach a point where I am in better shape than I ever was, even in my mid 20s. I know I can do it, I ran into Samir Bannout last year and the guy looks incredible for 55 years of age. I realize I cannot compare myself to an x Mr. Olympia nor do I expect those sorts of results but still we are all humans and I believe with enough hard work and dieting I can achieve some great resluts.
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Me a few years ago, age forty two, 14% bodyfat, confirmed by DEXA.
(Recall I was a fat jogger for most of my twenties and almost all of my thirties):
That's 14%??? That looks like low- to mid-single digits. I'm baffled. All pics I've seen of the 13-18% range most definitely does NOT look like that.
Explain, please? lol
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I've found I get hungry every 3 hours no matter if the previous meal was big or small, so I basically have to eat 7-8 small meals a day. Otherwise I'd be eating 7-8 big meals a day, lol.
Phineas - yep, that's 14%, and like I said, confirmed by x-ray.
Mid section is about 7%, arms around 11%, legs around 23%. Women carry more essential fat than men - and of course most folks don't bother to get an x-ray to check their bodyfat levels; I see a lot of posts by women who say they're at 12%, and yet they don't have abs. At 14%, I had a veins popping around my navel.
Still no vascularity in my legs, though. Vascularity wouldn't have shown on my legs without my getting emaciated - I was entirely natural in that shot. Without assistance, there isn't a diet in the world that would have gotten the rest off me without seriously sacrificing LBM.
SubSolar, what macros do you run?
Mid section is about 7%, arms around 11%, legs around 23%. Women carry more essential fat than men - and of course most folks don't bother to get an x-ray to check their bodyfat levels; I see a lot of posts by women who say they're at 12%, and yet they don't have abs. At 14%, I had a veins popping around my navel.
Still no vascularity in my legs, though. Vascularity wouldn't have shown on my legs without my getting emaciated - I was entirely natural in that shot. Without assistance, there isn't a diet in the world that would have gotten the rest off me without seriously sacrificing LBM.
SubSolar, what macros do you run?
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Wow. I didn't know you could determine BF through x-rays. I assume health care doesn't cover this? How much does it cost?
This is interesting because I've seen so many pictures from fitness blogs/journals with pictures of men who had their BFs tested. In the pics of your BF range they look DRASTICALLY different.
How/why do women store this essential fat? If women store this fat then why doesn't it show? I mean, I'm not an expert on BF but based on pictures of men I've seen my initial guess was you were around 5 or 6%. I mean, it looks like you have absolutely none on you.
Can you please go in to more detail on this, Built? Thanks for the info
Can you just move to Victoria and be my trainer? lol
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That reminds me, the avatar you are using, where are those abs from? Thats like crazy perfection right there. Who is that??
Wow. I didn't know you could determine BF through x-rays. I assume health care doesn't cover this? How much does it cost?
This is interesting because I've seen so many pictures from fitness blogs/journals with pictures of men who had their BFs tested. In the pics of your BF range they look DRASTICALLY different.
How/why do women store this essential fat? If women store this fat then why doesn't it show? I mean, I'm not an expert on BF but based on pictures of men I've seen my initial guess was you were around 5 or 6%. I mean, it looks like you have absolutely none on you.
Can you please go in to more detail on this, Built? Thanks for the info
Can you just move to Victoria and be my trainer? lol
Women have estrogen which promotes more bodyfat storage in all the places we hate it - hips / thighs/ butt/ waist - this is all nature's survival strategy to provide a mechanism that both protects a fetus w/ more "padding" as well as promotes the storage of fat which would be available as a reserve energy source to help support the growth of a fetus.
Generally when you're talking about comparing bodyfat % on men vs women - at the ultra extreme. men can get down to about 3.5% and women down MAYBE around 5% but more likely around 6%. Because bodyfat % is a ratio of lean muscle mass to bodyfat, a "perceived degree of leanness" can be gotten at different numbers because you're looking at a ratio and identifying 'leanness' by the presence of abs, etc. But because we hold different proportions of fat in different areas and develop muscles do a differing degree across the body, a perceived leanness in one area won't be the same in another area. For ex, at my first BB competition I had a tight Christmas tree in my lower back but no abs and not much detail in my legs. 10 yrs later, I'm still trying to get my ass tight and I have good abs, have gotten cross striations a few times in my quads but harder to get the x-mas tree because I am > 40 and I tend to carry more of my bodyfat in my lower back (very common issue as you get older). In all cases I'm probably around 6.5-7% bf but the look is quite different because over the years i've increased my lean mass, and improved the bodyfat but still have some. It also becomes sooo much more apparent if you have ANY bodyfat, the more muscle you have. Its all relative.
ectomorph, my avatar is (or at least, was) me. Good lighting helps, remember that.
Sassy, if I ever see striations in my quads I'll fall over dead from joy.
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^Yes Built your ab pic is amazing for sure especially for female abs. I read a lot of your material and you are a massive inspiration for women and men. Congrats on all the hard work.
However, my question was actually directed to the kyle64 avatar. Who is the person in that avatar? Those abs are quite amazing too.
However, my question was actually directed to the kyle64 avatar. Who is the person in that avatar? Those abs are quite amazing too.
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Oh ok yeah they are just insanely perfect. Almost like they are made out of clay. 
