homebrew powder

[awhites1]

i posted a similar question once about getting stuff from china and making my own but it was quickly deleted. i think thats b/c I posted one of the companies i was referancing. I guess unless you know some people or something...


seems very risky man for quite a few reasons. prob best to just order some sht from a reputible comp thats already made. you send someone your money and they send your asz to prison.

 

[Aaron S.]

Any body sterilize their own oils ?? I tried something last night. I sterilized a muffin tray, then heated some olive oil at 350 for 30 minutes. I then filtered it through some coffee filters and put 1 cc to 99 cc's of oil. I tried it this morning and it seems fine so far. I never thought about the price of steril oil but for cottonseed oil i pay 9.50 + tax shipping and handling = about $22 for .22um filtration, sealed bottle. It's not a big deal when i am buying 100 bucks worth of chemicals/ syringes etc. but when i just need oil it's kind of expensive to me....any thoughts ?

 

[Aaron S.]

the 1 cc to 100 cc's was benzyl alcohol.

 

[Beejis60]

Any body sterilize their own oils ?? I tried something last night. I sterilized a muffin tray, then heated some olive oil at 350 for 30 minutes. I then filtered it through some coffee filters and put 1 cc to 99 cc's of oil. I tried it this morning and it seems fine so far. I never thought about the price of steril oil but for cottonseed oil i pay 9.50 + tax shipping and handling = about $22 for .22um filtration, sealed bottle. It's not a big deal when i am buying 100 bucks worth of chemicals/ syringes etc. but when i just need oil it's kind of expensive to me....any thoughts ?

That's not sterile. It's not sterile until you pass it through a sterile filter into a sterile environment, such as a sterile vial. And you should NOT be using olive oil for steroids. EVER.
And I sterilize my own oil when I'm making the sauce; it becomes sterile when you're passing it through the filter into the sterile vile with the hormone, BA, and BB in it. No need to use sterile oil and 100% pointless to sterilize your oil before homebrewing.

 

[stiphy]

look on the sponsers forum one of them does powder and is good to go.

The advantage with making your own is you know what your getting, you know its sterile (if you make sure you use new clean stuff). plus you get alot of cycles for a small cost.

I just went through the whole sponsor forum and didnt see any powder. Are they still a sponsor?

 

[Beejis60]

iirc???

if i recall correctly

 

[cutright]

I would be a little cautious getting a referrence from someone with 1 post.

Thanks for your concern....

 

[cutright]

How does one store Test E powder....and does it change once you open it? As far as storing it goes

 

[cutright]

Well I guess no one reads this thread anymore lol...

 

[Imosted]

couple of guys were saying in another board that you can put it in an air tight bag like zip lock and put it in freezer. it seems logical but someone might have a better idea

 

[brundel]

Zip lock bag. I would double bag it ...
Keep it in a cool place free from moisture...so not the freezer.
Its fine after you open it just take out what you need and reseal.

 

[brundel]

Here is for the tren conversion
Using this method you know exactly how much mg/ml is in your vials because you can weight the raw powder prior to compounding.

***pyrex measuring cups can be substituted for beakers***

1. crush pellets in a bomex beaker. 500ml+ beaker
2. pour in about 50ml Methanol and allow about 30 min for everything to dissolve. Swirl it around every 5 min or so. Make sure there are no large particles remaining.
3. Pour the solution through a coffee filter into another bomex beaker. Squeeze every oz out into the second beaker but not so hard as to break the filter or push the filtrate through. Be careful not to spill. The tren is in the liquid.
4. Pour 350ml ice cold distilled water into the beaker containing the methanol/tren solution. You will see the tren appear in crystal form.
5. pour this through another filter. Brown ones work best here so you can see the tren.
6. Rinse with distilled water by pouring it through the filter slowly.
I keep the rinse water and pass that through a filter as well incase anything went through.
Let this dry at least 24 hours...

You now have raw tren powder.

 

[brundel]

So once you have the raw powder.

You will need a presealed sterile vial.
At least 2 syringe filters preferably ---2x .45u and---2x .22u.. 2 each because they can blow out or clog.
A syringe of at least 20ml. The larger the syringe the more difficult it will be to push the gear through the filter but if its too small youll be drawing and filtering several times.
A few 18g needles.
Oil...I like grape seed oil but cottonseed works....Both are easy to find.
BA---benzyl Alcohol
BB---Benzyl benzoate.

1. combine your BA, BB, and powder in a beaker.----pyrex measuring cups work as well.
2. warm the contents...This should ideally be done in a water bath. Place the beaker in a pan of water over a stove. Water level should be just above the fluid in the beaker. Heat on low stirring frequently untill everything dissolves. DO NOT BOIL.
3. Draw contents into your syringe.
4. attach .22 syringe filter and 18g needle.
5. filter into sterile vial. Make sure to vent the vial with another needle.
6. do the same thing with the oil but after you have filtered the BA,BB,tren mix. Warm and Run the oil through the same filter at least for 3-5ml then you can switch it out if it.starts clogging. The syringe filter holds up to 3ml in it so if you dont do this you may have 3ml of concentrated tren stuck in there....this could be 600mg worth or more.... So be sure to run the oil through the same one for a while.
7. inject.

 

[cutright]

Zip lock bag. I would double bag it ...
Keep it in a cool place free from moisture...so not the freezer.
Its fine after you open it just take out what you need and reseal.

Thanks bro!...same for EQ?

 

[brundel]

Yah!
EQ is a liquid at room temp so Im not sure how they are packaging it for you.
Just keep it closed tight so It doesnt leak out.
Its gonna go through a sterile filter prior to use so its all good.

 

[Aaron S.]

Yah!
EQ is a liquid at room temp so Im not sure how they are packaging it for you.
Just keep it closed tight so It doesnt leak out.
Its gonna go through a sterile filter prior to use so its all good.

Hey i just got 62 mls of this (bold. Undecyl.) Was supposed to be 50g. 1176 mg/ml if .85ml=1g... i'm straight on my thinking here right ?

 

[cutright]

Hey i just got 62 mls of this (bold. Undecyl.) Was supposed to be 50g. 1176 mg/ml if .85ml=1g... i'm straight on my thinking here right ?

Good question because I got 100grams on the way...curious as well

 

[brundel]

Just weigh it.
So, say your gonna make 50ml at 100mg per ml.
weigh 5g of the liquid in a beaker.
Then add oil and BA
Add BB if you want to thin things out.
Heat it up a bit over a water bath.
Filter.
Make sure to flush your filters. Each syringe filter can hold up to 3-4 ml in it.
This means after filtering you will have that amount left behind.
Some people flush with oil. Some with air.
I use oil.

 

[cutright]

So do you leave 2 to 3 CC of the oil out of the equation until its all filtered then running that through at the end

 

[brundel]

Save 3-4 ml EXTRA.
So this means if your going to use 50ml oil total for your equation...have 53ml prepared.

 

[brundel]

Like this for example. This is a stericup filter but the procedure is similar.
Notice the 4ml of GSO in the big syringe.
Thats for flushing.
In retrospect I probably should have flushed with more cause those filters are pretty big.
Lazy tren powder conversion.

 

[cutright]

Thats bad ass bro! Thanks for the advise!

 

[Aaron S.]

I buy oil that's already been filtered and medical grade raw material. Cottonseed oil is what i use. You would think it would go through a whatman syringe filter like shit through a goose...not happening that way for some reason. Someone told me i might not be purging the air from the filter. In any respect i'm only getting like 20 ml through each filter.

 

[brundel]

Unfortunately....Its likely the powder.
Alot of the Raw powders coming from over seas as of late have been of very poor quality.
I heard some were testing as low as 60% I dont know this for a fact but I do know alot of people have had issues.

How much are you converting?

 

[cutright]

Damn only 20ml per filter...that's gonna add up fast...someone told me you should get close to 100ml per filter...is this usually true?...I got filtered grape seed oil...haven't used it yet though

 

[Aaron S.]

Hey cutright

Good question because I got 100grams on the way...curious as well

Hey man, let me know if your 100g's is equal to 85Ml. I'm almost positive that .85ml = 1g. but when i got mine (supposed to be 50g's) it was like 62 mls. that would equal like 72.9 grams. It could just be that the person bottling it was careless.

Thanks,
A.

 

[Aaron S.]

Brundel

Unfortunately....Its likely the powder.
Alot of the Raw powders coming from over seas as of late have been of very poor quality.
I heard some were testing as low as 60% I dont know this for a fact but I do know alot of people have had issues.

How much are you converting?

Like 100 mls at a time...it's adding up at $3/filter. I like that setup with the hand pump...i think cutright posted a pic. That looks like some tight work. My chem supply - researchsupply.net - has those kind of filters but i have never used them or seen them used.

 

[brundel]

If your filtering 100ml+ stericup filtration is far easier.

What youll want to do is get a hand pump for bleeding brakes. The sell them at auto parts stores Amazon.com: OEM 25136 Vacuum Pump: Home Improvement

 

[Aaron S.]

Brundel

Unfortunately....Its likely the powder.
Alot of the Raw powders coming from over seas as of late have been of very poor quality.
I heard some were testing as low as 60% I dont know this for a fact but I do know alot of people have had issues.

How much are you converting?

I don't know how they can mes with quality when it all disolves into the oil. If it was cut with something it would have to be an oil soluable cut that was exactly the same color.

GRAPESEED - my soruce for this stuff sells what looks almost green. I don't know how people will respond to green oil when they are so used to practically clear yellowish colored stuff.

 

[brundel]

Get yourself a couple of these.