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Half of you will get this wrong: 48÷2(9+3) = 288 or 2?

and yes, when you insert the 48 on 48÷2??(9+3), the first thing done is the division because 2??(9+3) isn't as tightly bound as 2(9+3)

adding the 48 on 48÷2(9+3) does not effect the 2(9+3) because the distributive property makes this a single unit that happens before any outside multiplication or division that is otherwise applied

people have always said that US degree's arent as higher level as other countries and if you got top class honours and you have NO IDEA what you are talking about im starting to agree.

48÷2(9+3) IS exactly the same as 48÷2 X (9+3), (and for those confused by the X sign its a multiplication, someone was confused earlier in this thread and thought i was solving for x?!)
 
I took the time to dig out my old college algebra book after my leg workout this morning, and Built is correct, no i'fs and's or but's.

Because multiplications and division have the same rank, they cannot be broken up in any way, not even with a fraction bar. The order of operations has to be performed from left to right.

The answer and only answer is 288.
 
people have always said that US degree's arent as higher level as other countries and if you got top class honours and you have NO IDEA what you are talking about im starting to agree.


At the high school level correct. You can put a degree from Northwestern, MIT, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Michigan, Princeton, etc, against anywhere in the world.
 
and yes, when you insert the 48 on 48÷2??(9+3), the first thing done is the division because 2??(9+3) isn't as tightly bound as 2(9+3)
"tightly bound"? LMAO this isn't chemistry!
adding the 48 on 48÷2(9+3) does not effect the 2(9+3)
You meant "affect", not "effect". Oh, and the rest of your statement is wrong, too.
because the distributive property makes this a single unit that happens before any outside multiplication or division that is otherwise applied

people have always said that US degree's arent as higher level as other countries and if you got top class honours and you have NO IDEA what you are talking about im starting to agree.
Given some of the posts in here, I'm inclined to agree.

48÷2(9+3) IS exactly the same as 48÷2 X (9+3), (and for those confused by the X sign its a multiplication, someone was confused earlier in this thread and thought i was solving for x?!)

I took the time to dig out my old college algebra book after my leg workout this morning, and Built is correct, no i'fs and's or but's.

Because multiplications and division have the same rank, they cannot be broken up in any way, not even with a fraction bar. The order of operations has to be performed from left to right.

The answer and only answer is 288.

:thumb:
 
This thread almost made me and my girlfriend break up:laugh:
 
A calulator will always work the problem from left to right...since the calculator is only as good as the person inputting the information

In this problem you will have to break down the parenthesis first, you always do the parenthesis first...always in mathematics...which mean you have to distribute the 2 since the 2 is attached to the parenthesis....which looks like this...

48÷2(9+3)
=48÷(2*9+2*3)
= 48÷(18+6)
= 48÷24
= 2

Always do the parenthesis or what is in or attached to the parenthesis first in math...
 
This thread almost made me and my girlfriend break up:laugh:
Hahahaha!
A calulator will always work the problem from left to right...since the calculator is only as good as the person inputting the information
You're half right - it's only as good as the person programming the calculation algorithm, too. Case in point: Excel sometimes comes up with a negative r-squared when you run linear regression.

Manufacturers of calculators have from time to time tried to come up with more "user-friendly" inputting that ignores the usual rules of math and instead uses what people usually THINK they're asking the machine to deliver. They invariably fail until the user learns to work around these hacks.

RPN was an approach I very much appreciated - that, plus the inevitable "where's the equal button?" when people asked to borrow your calculator.
In this problem you will have to break down the parenthesis first, you always do the parenthesis first...always in mathematics...which mean you have to distribute the 2 since the 2 is attached to the parenthesis....which looks like this...

48÷2(9+3)
=48÷(2*9+2*3)
= 48÷(18+6)
= 48÷24
= 2

Always do the parenthesis or what is in or attached to the parenthesis first in math...

Almost. "÷2" is the same as "??½".

Thus
48 ÷ 2(9+3)​
becomes
48 ?? ½(9+3)
48 ?? [½(9)+½(3)]
48 ?? (4.5 + 1.5)
48 ?? (6)
= 288​
 
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This thread is more amusing than any other on the boards

Throw some politics or religeon in here for some extra fire!

Good job Built!
 
I'm not waiving the white flag yet.

You are suggesting that:

"48÷2b =
48 ÷ 2 ÷ b = "


Actually, that is not correct. In the second expression, you are adding a division sign that was not previously there. 48÷2b can be rewritten as (48/2)b or (48/2) x b or (48b)/2 or 48b/2. It cannot be rewritten as 48 ÷ 2 ÷ b.

Of your original expressions, the third one is simply incorrect -- you are modifying the order of operations by putting in parenthesis that were not expressed originally.

Clearly, the "÷" is an awful convention.

This is completely incorrect
 
people have always said that US degree's arent as higher level as other countries and if you got top class honours and you have NO IDEA what you are talking about im starting to agree.

48÷2(9+3) IS exactly the same as 48÷2 X (9+3), (and for those confused by the X sign its a multiplication, someone was confused earlier in this thread and thought i was solving for x?!)

I grew up in Canada
 
A calulator will always work the problem from left to right...since the calculator is only as good as the person inputting the information

In this problem you will have to break down the parenthesis first, you always do the parenthesis first...always in mathematics...which mean you have to distribute the 2 since the 2 is attached to the parenthesis....which looks like this...

48÷2(9+3)
=48÷(2*9+2*3)
= 48÷(18+6)
= 48÷24
= 2

Always do the parenthesis or what is in or attached to the parenthesis first in math...

Correct!
 
the notation of 2(a) implies that you have a group of 2 a's

so if you divide by 2(a), you have to view that as a single unit, not dividing by 2 and then multiplying by a

with your logic, does 48 / 2a = 48 ÷ 2a ?

Is there a difference here?
 
well done, myk.
 
I'm not waiving the white flag yet.

You are suggesting that:

"48÷2b =
48 ÷ 2 ÷ b = "


Actually, that is not correct. In the second expression, you are adding a division sign that was not previously there. 48÷2b can be rewritten as (48/2)b or (48/2) x b or (48b)/2 or 48b/2. It cannot be rewritten as 48 ÷ 2 ÷ b.

Of your original expressions, the third one is simply incorrect -- you are modifying the order of operations by putting in parenthesis that were not expressed originally.

Clearly, the "÷" is an awful convention.
This is completely incorrect
Nope. Marat nailed it.

people have always said that US degree's arent as higher level as other countries and if you got top class honours and you have NO IDEA what you are talking about im starting to agree.
I grew up in Canada

Dammit Neil, you're bringing down the Canadian average. :(
 
PEDMAS is the same ...Parenthesis Exponents Division Multiplication Addition Subtraction just different acronym

BUT if you actually follow it you'll see you are wrong

48÷2(9+3) becomes 48÷2x(9+3)


becomes 48÷2x(12) division and multiplication are equal priority so you read from left to right when signs are equal so...

it becomes 48÷2 first = 24

and finally x 12 = 288.

God you're dumb.
the acronym you used is PEDMAS not PEMDAS.

Go back to school wannabe.
 
Some smart calculators were programed properly and show that there is a difference between these two

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Cool. Some other person made the same mistake you did.

I imagine it's nice to take comfort in that.

FIRST, Akira, I saw this thread on another board.
Do you attend the joe rogan board also?

SECOND,

Anyone who thinks it's 288 DOES NOT KNOW MATH.

GO back to school and see if your random method of solving equations gets you very far.

/thread
 
LMAO you're adorable Neil. Really you are.

Still wrong, though.
 
FIRST, Akira, I saw this thread on another board.
Do you attend the joe rogan board also?

SECOND,

Anyone who thinks it's 288 DOES NOT KNOW MATH.

GO back to school and see if your random method of solving equations gets you very far.

/thread
Hahahahahaha I'll inform NSERC you've placed a lien on the graduate scholarship I earned with my math degree.
 
Someone's PMS'ing hard.

You have a degree right? And you still don't know elementary math operations?
:hmmm::hmmm:

I have two science degrees - my first degree is a BSc in math, and my second is a MSc in op log. I earned a national graduate scholarship for my math degree. I tutored algebra and undergraduate calculus and stats, and worked as a teaching assistant for the Faculty of Science while in university.

You?
 
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