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[Aaron S.]

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The whole setup would probably run you under 80$. That way you can test powders right away and know exactly what you are brewing, it would also tell you if you have just the hormone in there or other stuff mixed in as well to give it some volume.

You have just introduced me to a whole "nuther" level bro...you fucking rock! Thanks for the site!!!

 

[Aaron S.]

Scratching sides of the beaker produces tiny glass crystals, which tren particles can use to grow into crystals themselves. As for the testing purity, the best and easiest way is to mix 2 batches (one in question and one you know is pure) and check the mixed MP if it is within 5 degrees C of the literature value and MP range is 2.5 degrees C or less you are gtg. If it melts far below its MP you got bunk powder no ifs or buts.

This is what i will use as my standard. So if i take my extracted Tren Ace and mix it with the powder and melt it...it should be a homogeneous melt and should all melt within a (+)or(-)5 degree range. If some of it melts to quick or takes too long i know it's not 100% straight....This is what your saying right?? Sorry for all the questions.

 

[Himik]

This is what i will use as my standard. So if i take my extracted Tren Ace and mix it with the powder and melt it...it should be a homogeneous melt and should all melt within a (+)or(-)5 degree range. If some of it melts to quick or takes too long i know it's not 100% straight....This is what your saying right?? Sorry for all the questions.

Yes exactly if it doesn't have a sharp melting point range i.e. 2.5C you have 2 different compounds mixed together.

 

[UA_Iron]

Scratching sides of the beaker produces tiny glass crystals, which tren particles can use to grow into crystals themselves. As for the testing purity, the best and easiest way is to mix 2 batches (one in question and one you know is pure) and check the mixed MP if it is within 5 degrees C of the literature value and MP range is 2.5 degrees C or less you are gtg. If it melts far below its MP you got bunk powder no ifs or buts.

You think scratching the glass is going to break off little particles? Most labware is pretty tough stuff as far as I've seen. That borosilicate glass is tough to break/mar.

Been meaning to pm you back bro, dont have enough posts yet.

 

[Himik]

You think scratching the glass is going to break off little particles? Most labware is pretty tough stuff as far as I've seen. That borosilicate glass is tough to break/mar.

Been meaning to pm you back bro, dont have enough posts yet.

That is what you are told to do in labs: when you try to recrystallize the "mother liquor" 2nd and 3rd time you scratch the sides of the beaker to induce crystallization if it doesn't begin on its own. If that does not work, you can boil away some of the methanol: less solvent = easier recrystallization 2nd and 3rd time around.
P.S. Of course you scratch it with something hard like a glass rod or a fork not your nails

 

[Himik]

You can also drop a tiny amount of tren crystals in your mother liquor - that will induce recrystallization as well.

 

[UA_Iron]

That is what you are told to do in labs: when you try to recrystallize the "mother liquor" 2nd and 3rd time you scratch the sides of the beaker to induce crystallization if it doesn't begin on its own. If that does not work, you can boil away some of the methanol: less solvent = easier recrystallization 2nd and 3rd time around.
P.S. Of course you scratch it with something hard like a glass rod or a fork not your nails

Ah makes sense. Why dont they make a medium like a scored glass rod with a good amount of surface area that you drop into the vial? You could then push that through a tight fit hole of the same diameter (+.001") and scavenge the crystals off of it.

 

[Himik]

Ah makes sense. Why dont they make a medium like a scored glass rod with a good amount of surface area that you drop into the vial? You could then push that through a tight fit hole of the same diameter (+.001") and scavenge the crystals off of it.

You probably could, it is just easier for me to scratch the sides of the beaker.

 

[Himik]

And remember the best way to increase the percent yield is to use the least amount of solvent possible. Usually 1g of powder requires 10-15mL of solvent. If you have too much - boil some of it away, your tren will NOT escape together with solvent.

 

[Aaron S.]

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And remember the best way to increase the percent yield is to use the least amount of solvent possible. Usually 1g of powder requires 10-15mL of solvent. If you have too much - boil some of it away, your tren will NOT escape together with solvent.

O.K. now that is something i was definitely doing wrong. I was using too much methanol...i still get a really decent yield but i bet if i used less like 25mls instead of 50 i could up it .2 one of the sites i get my info insists that you use no more than 25mls methanol for Fina and i just insisted on using more because it didn't make sense to me to use less. It's like growing plants, every little detail adds to yield. I can't wait to do it again.

 

[Aaron S.]

i'm gonna introduce a little tren into the solution to get the process started as well. I never would have came up with that on my own. This is important information for me because i don't plan on buying the stuff in bulk anymore. Another thing that i was wondering if anyone has an idea about what's safer. Is it harder on your body to make a propionate melt with guiacol - like 400mg/cc then cut it down to 200mg with oil and then just mix it with 100mg/cc tren using 1% BA and 9% BB to get 50/100 FinaPro or just make Prop the usual way and do half a cc of Tren 100 with 1cc of prop 100.?? I hope i said this in a way you can understand it. I ask because i have a friend that's a biochemist and he says the BA can be some nasty stuff and to use as little as possible for daily injections. The guiacol way means the only BA in the mix is what i used to convert the fina into injectable form.

 

[Aaron S.]

God help anyone who has to switch over to TNE and they are using 400+mg of gear/day. A smooth psychological and physical transition requires a shit ton of it 150mg/day and no shit every time a swollen abscess goes away another one is popping up. Even with 8 injection sites (4 on each side of my body). This SUCKS !! If i hadn't been using so much gear to begin with this wouldn't have been an issue but who would know they were going to get a piss test and AA's would be included...why would i get tested for AA's ??? It's total crap!

 

[Aaron S.]

Anyone have an idea of how to make Androgel? I'm gonna check my usual info sites but i'm figuring someone on here probably knows the best way to do it.

 

[keith1569]

you could probably just make a transdermal test base and that would be your androgel

 

[Aaron S.]

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you could probably just make a transdermal test base and that would be your androgel

yea, i got some good ideas from basskilleronline for transdermal applications. I have to get some chemicals though and they don't have what i need at researchsupply so if anyone knows where i get some:

Oleic Adcid
Isopropyl myristate
isopropyl palmilate
DMSO (dimethl sulfoxide)

 

[keith1569]

I was reading in another thread that instead of DMSO use hand sanitizer. Guy says it works just as good and doesn't smell horrible

 

[Aaron S.]

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I was reading in another thread that instead of DMSO use hand sanitizer. Guy says it works just as good and doesn't smell horrible

O.K. that sounds better, i have propylene glycol, isopropyl alcohol of course, and hand sanitizer. I wonder if i could pull it off with just that stuff.???

 

[keith1569]

shoot idk if it would hold..what strength you wanting to make it at? i suppose u could try and if it didnt hold with just that you could ways buy the other ingredients and add to it

 

[Aaron S.]

Damn my research brought me back to a forum here. Brundel says the hand sanitizer is the way to go for trans tren or nandrolone. I'm looking at the instructions right now.

 

[Aaron S.]

the hand sanitizer i just used (germX) has ethyl alcohol in it but its also got a moisturizer and vitamine E so i don't know if this is what i'm supposed to use. It looks like i smeared paste on my forearms. I melted 1.5g's into 30mls and it turned totally clear but i don't know if this is the best brand.

 

[Aaron S.]

Damn finally figured out how to download pics again. I can't save in downloads. The TNE is making my delts bigger for sure.

 

[keith1569]

ya that was the post i was looking at to.

lol paste on your arms ha

 

[Aaron S.]

Water weight is definitely becoming a reality. I knew i would start to hold some but it's happening a little faster than i thought.

 

[Aaron S.]

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ya that was the post i was looking at to.

lol paste on your arms ha

Yea, now i have it all over the front of my torso as well LOL. I'm hoping it gets in me with this much all over me!LOL

 

[UA_Iron]

Water weight is definitely becoming a reality. I knew i would start to hold some but it's happening a little faster than i thought.

you try carb cycling to bring off water weight and dry you out?

Aromatase inhibitors will make you look kinda flat

 

[brundel]

Use this. It has the EXACT same ingredients as testim except not the terrible scent.

 

[Aaron S.]

Can i just get it anywhere??? I'm gonna check online it looks like the label says Naturel Concepts Hand Sanitizer, is that right?

 

[Aaron S.]

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you try carb cycling to bring off water weight and dry you out?

Aromatase inhibitors will make you look kinda flat

I already look pretty flat, but i'm wondering what carb cycling is.??? Please explain

 

[brundel]

Can i just get it anywhere??? I'm gonna check online it looks like the label says Naturel Concepts Hand Sanitizer, is that right?

Yes sir thats the one.
I bought a case of the 40oz ones.
I make all kinds of TD's with it

 

[keith1569]

i have seen that hand sani at like walmart, sams club, target

like that