Muscletech Whey protein

[jagbender]

Saying a product contains 30% filler is saying that the product is garbage. You're misleading people on the board by making thoughtless assumptions. No it wasn't a minor point. You were wrong and needed to be corrected.

What ever you want to call it filler, Byproducts, fat, carbs. 30 % is not protein

I never called any product garbage. The label is all you need to tell you what is in a "serving"

33 gram serving size net 20 grams protein 30+ % is not protein

Can you show me where I called any product garbage or mislead anyone?

Seriously I am trying to learn about what makes a good protein? I have purchased Muscletech products.


If you didn't notice the emoticon when I posted the "filler" question?

 

[Curt James]

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should have it in a few days

Yeah! Chocolate is delicious.

 

[Curt James]

What about a good casein?

Any suggestions?

ON gold standard
Dymatize® Nutrition Elite Casein XT - Chocolate Milk

I really liked ON's chocolate casein.

That's the Whey Isolate I use every day. Zero sugar and zero fat. 100% Pure Whey Isolate (CFM)

And sweetened with Stevia!

http://www.ironmaglabs.com/product-list/whey-protein-isolate/

 

[jagbender]

been using the Dymatize® Nutrition Elite Casein XT - Chocolate Milk I don't like is as well as the ON casein for sure.
I hate to say this but the GNC casein "on sale" is good. I like the thickening of the GNC casein for protein pudding.

 

[Curt James]

Doesn't fillers imply that it's added?

Maybe Fluff would be a better desription? (snip)

Calling it fluff doesn't really make sense to me. Since a concentrate would contain other parts of the source(milk), like sugar(lactose) which drives up the calories. This is a side effect of the extraction process, not fluff or a filler. I'm sure there is filler, but assuming total protein/total calories = filler% isn't accurate.

Is this an argument over semantics? Can I join in?

Saying a product contains 30% filler is saying that the product is garbage. You're misleading people on the board by making thoughtless assumptions. No it wasn't a minor point. You were wrong and needed to be corrected.

How would you word it correctly?

I'm assuming you had or have a general idea of what he meant to say, so how would you revise his statement to make it more accurate and less thoughtless?

If I'm not mistaken, jag was responding to heavy's post. Do the math. Twenty grams of protein (the product jag was inquiring about) in a 33 gram scoop. That leaves 13 non-protein grams or what jag described as "filler".

You only get 20 grams of protein per 33 gram scoop. (snip)

 

[Curt James]

What ever you want to call it filler, Byproducts, fat, carbs. 30 % is not protein

I never called any product garbage. The label is all you need to tell you what is in a "serving"

33 gram serving size net 20 grams protein 30+ % is not protein

Can you show me where I called any product garbage or misled anyone?

Seriously I am trying to learn about what makes a good protein? I have purchased Muscletech products.


If you didn't notice the emoticon when I posted the "filler" question?

Help me out with the math. Where are you getting 30% from?

20/33 makes 60% is protein, right? So there's 40% that is non-protein or did I drop the ball there?

And fwiw, it's clear to me that PushAndPull sees the term filler as synonymous with garbage.

IronMagLabs isolate product is all protein. Boom! Just what the doctor ordered for the keto dieter.

Syntha 6 is a mix of protein and carbs as is Myofusion, again if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Noheawaiian]

Gaspari Nutrition's Myofusion. Banana perfection.
Enough said...

 

[jagbender]

CJ

30+% came from a general calculation 20/33 roughly 30+%
Actually very close to 40% "non protien matter"

 

[Curt James]

God damn it! It's spelled protein! You're wrong and need corrected!!! grrr

 

[jagbender]

God damn it! It's spelled protein! You're wrong and need corrected!!! grrr

Use you moderator powers and edit that for me please LOL

 

[PushAndPull]

The difference between isolate and concentrate is the purity of the extract. I imagine if you had a really shitty concentrate then it would basically be powdered milk. Would you consider milk, whey protein with a lot of fillers? No, you would just call it powdered milk. I see filler as something that's added and used to fill some gap in the product. I've never heard of anyone wanting a product that has lots of fillers, and that's why I said it makes it sound like garbage. There is nothing wrong with concentrates or milk unless you're lactose intolerant or maybe cutting.

 

[PushAndPull]

Is this an argument over semantics? Can I join in?



How would you word it correctly?

I'm assuming you had or have a general idea of what he meant to say, so how would you revise his statement to make it more accurate and less thoughtless?

If I'm not mistaken, jag was responding to heavy's post. Do the math. Twenty grams of protein (the product jag was inquiring about) in a 33 gram scoop. That leaves 13 non-protein grams or what jag described as "filler".

It's the person who's doing the math that matters.

It depends. If you don't mind paying for sugar and fat in your protein then no worries but man if you are dieting strict I would avoid a shake that is 12 grams of fat for 44 grams of protein.

If you're not lactose intolerant, want the extra calories, find the listed ingredients acceptable, then I would go with the concentrate and save some money.

 

[suprfast]

I'm lactose intolerant and most of the proteins on the market to me are garbage. I can see a lot of points being thrown around here but push and pull hit it on three head with the last comment. If you can afford having something in your diet and its cheaper go for it.

Now I need to try out this nutra bio. Price seems decent for a lactose free protein.

 

[heavyiron]

If you're not lactose intolerant, want the extra calories, find the listed ingredients acceptable, then I would go with the concentrate and save some money.

I'm dieting strict right now so for me its a no go. I need a shake with zero fat and sugar.

 

[suprfast]

Im sure pricing to an extent has something to do with the quality of what you are buying, that is unless WP is selling protein.

Those fillers or whatever we decided to call them are non protein. Call it what you want when I am paying for protein I expect to get protein. Id love to try the IM stuff but I just cant justify the extra few dollars per pound. I have no doubt its good but so is chicken breast, and steaks, and fish.

By this evening I should have ordered the nutrabio vanilla to give it a try.

 

[PushAndPull]

I'm dieting strict right now so for me its a no go. I need a shake with zero fat and sugar.

Completely understand this. Even on a maintenance diet I perfer isolate since it allows me more flexibility in my diet. Just seemed like concentrate was getting a bad rap.

 

[jagbender]

Just an update I received my IML whey yesterday. Pleased with the product
Smells good, tastes good and mixes well.

 

[heavyiron]

Just an update I received my IML whey yesterday. Pleased with the product
Smells good, tastes good and mixes well.

Which flavor?

 

[Curt James]

Use you moderator powers and edit that for me please LOL

I'm powerless in the supps subforum! lol

 

[Curt James]

It's the person who's doing the math that matters.

Gotcha.

 

[jagbender]

Which flavor?

Chocolate Just finished my morning shake now

 

[jagbender]

One thing I have noticed in Buying different brands and price levels.

The Cheaper the cost per pound , typically the more "off" smells there are in the bag.

Is The smell of the product a valid indicator of the quality of protein? I am not sure. But I think my Nose knows.

and Common sense you tell you that there IS something to the quality / smell issue.

From worst smelling to best smelling tasting, this is whay I have experienced

Muscletech Whey @ Sam's had a off smell to it
EAS whey @ Sam's had a slight off smell to it
GNC amplified whey has a clean smell with a slight "plastic" smell
ON whey smells good tastes good
Isagenics Whey smells good tastes good
IML smells good and tastes good

 

[banker23]

One thing I have noticed in Buying different brands and price levels.

The Cheaper the cost per pound , typically the more "off" smells there are in the bag.

Is The smell of the product a valid indicator of the quality of protein? I am not sure. But I think my Nose knows.

and Common sense you tell you that there IS something to the quality / smell issue.

From worst smelling to best smelling tasting, this is whay I have experienced

Muscletech Whey @ Sam's had a off smell to it
EAS whey @ Sam's had a slight off smell to it
GNC amplified whey has a clean smell with a slight "plastic" smell
ON whey smells good tastes good
Isagenics Whey smells good tastes good
IML smells good and tastes good

I think I am following you here...the EAS is slightly less off than the Muscletech though. Not bad just like there's been some malt added or something.

 

[rbmedic75]

Just got my Nutra Bio shipment. I ordered it day before thankgiving and they had posted that shipping would not resume till monday. Sure enough monday I got a tracking number and today it arrived. Had to try some LOL.

I ordered Orange Cream and Cherry Vanilla, Tried the Orange cream thus far (about half hour ago) first impressions. The consistency in the container is MUCH different than the Syntha-6 and ON products, they are very loose (kinda like sugar or coarse flour) the Nutra Bio is more like a light fluffy brown sugar type it kinda hangs together but doesnt lump. Not sure how to describe it but definatley different and not in a bad way. Smells Good, just like orange cream and cherry vanilla. Mixed it with lowfat milk (out of almond milk) mixed pretty easily, I used a cup and fork to stir it, usually with ON and Syntha I get a fair amount of nonmixed little floatting protein clumps (just little ones no biggy and it never bothered me any) the Nutra Bio seemed to mix up a little better only had one or two tinny clumps that I could have finished stirring out. If I used a shaker it would have been all mixed. The taste for the Orange cream is very mild (i consider the Syntha-6 very rich in flavor ie strawberry) the Nutra was very mild could definately tell it was orange cream but not an overpowering taste. I could easily drink this if I wasnt even looking for a protein drink.

I will let you all know if there are any diggestive issues (never have had any with pretty much anythign ive eaten or drank) all in all Im very pleased. Its a 100% pure issolate protein for $50/5lbs minus any sales and discounts, a bunch of flavors to keep it interesting and they seem to run quite a few sales got an email the other day for an additional 12% off and they had a 15% black friday sale. I am happy and will be ordering more cant wait to try the Nitric Stack.

 

[jagbender]

I think I am following you here...the EAS is slightly less off than the Muscletech though. Not bad just like there's been some malt added or something.

Yes the EAS and a slight "funk" to it but the Muscletech had an "odor"
definatly not appetizing

 

[jagbender]

Just got my Nutra Bio shipment. I ordered it day before thankgiving and they had posted that shipping would not resume till monday. Sure enough monday I got a tracking number and today it arrived. Had to try some LOL.

I ordered Orange Cream and Cherry Vanilla, Tried the Orange cream thus far (about half hour ago) first impressions. The consistency in the container is MUCH different than the Syntha-6 and ON products, they are very loose (kinda like sugar or coarse flour) the Nutra Bio is more like a light fluffy brown sugar type it kinda hangs together but doesnt lump. Not sure how to describe it but definatley different and not in a bad way. Smells Good, just like orange cream and cherry vanilla. Mixed it with lowfat milk (out of almond milk) mixed pretty easily, I used a cup and fork to stir it, usually with ON and Syntha I get a fair amount of nonmixed little floatting protein clumps (just little ones no biggy and it never bothered me any) the Nutra Bio seemed to mix up a little better only had one or two tinny clumps that I could have finished stirring out. If I used a shaker it would have been all mixed. The taste for the Orange cream is very mild (i consider the Syntha-6 very rich in flavor ie strawberry) the Nutra was very mild could definately tell it was orange cream but not an overpowering taste. I could easily drink this if I wasnt even looking for a protein drink.

I will let you all know if there are any diggestive issues (never have had any with pretty much anythign ive eaten or drank) all in all Im very pleased. Its a 100% pure issolate protein for $50/5lbs minus any sales and discounts, a bunch of flavors to keep it interesting and they seem to run quite a few sales got an email the other day for an additional 12% off and they had a 15% black friday sale. I am happy and will be ordering more cant wait to try the Nitric Stack.

Thanks for the info

 

[suprfast]

Yes the EAS and a slight "funk" to it but the Muscletech had an "odor"
definatly not appetizing

The cytosport shit costco sells has the same "odor" to it. Luckily I cant use that specific one cause its not lactose free. The lactose free one they have is nice but pricey.

I might have to try the IM stuff in the future just to have a reference point compared to all the other types out there. One of my favorites was ATW(all the whey). Sadly they are no more.

Nice review on a lot of proteins though Jag.

 

[rbmedic75]

Just tried the cherry vanilla, used a shaker cup it mixed up perfectly and I like the taste of the cherry vanilla even better than the Orange cream, A little stronger taste to it. The Nutra Bio do require more liquid than the Syntha or ON, a full 8 oz per scoop of protein. No digestive issue at all (i've never had with any of them though) Verry Happy with the whole purchase.

 

[suprfast]

Just tried the cherry vanilla, used a shaker cup it mixed up perfectly and I like the taste of the cherry vanilla even better than the Orange cream, A little stronger taste to it. The Nutra Bio do require more liquid than the Syntha or ON, a full 8 oz per scoop of protein. No digestive issue at all (i've never had with any of them though) Verry Happy with the whole purchase.

Not to side track on Jags thread but I have an order of vanilla on the way. If I like it and it likes me ill be ordering 50lbs. If I can just get a free or low shipping with the discount codes it will be close to 6-7 dollars per lb.

 

[squigader]

Not to side track on Jags thread but I have an order of vanilla on the way. If I like it and it likes me ill be ordering 50lbs. If I can just get a free or low shipping with the discount codes it will be close to 6-7 dollars per lb.

Shipping is probably the most non-flexible part of any deal, those costs are out of hand for any seller.

But will the gods deliver?